Here comes Nikon D200... finally a reality
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ernest_ted
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espn said:
Another reason not to go NUG too often.... he;p
smallaperture
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taker said:Rumour point to Nikon using Fuji's CCD sensor inside D200. I wonder how true is that?
Since Sony has close collaboration with KM, it's time for Nikon to work with other sensor maker. Beside, Fuji and Nikon share the same building in Japan.
Good News? SuperCCD in the D200. But will Fuji sell it's latest and most advanced sensor to Nikon or keep it for their own S4Pro?
taker said:Rumour point to Nikon using Fuji's CCD sensor inside D200. I wonder how true is that?
Since Sony has close collaboration with KM, it's time for Nikon to work with other sensor maker. Beside, Fuji and Nikon share the same building in Japan.
If that is true, then Fuji need to worry not being able to sold their DSLRs as they are basically competing head to head before in D100 vs S2 Pro and now .. D200 vs S3 Pro ?
D200 that has S3 Pro sensor + 1/500" flash sync + F100 quality viewfinder + 5fps and buffer of 18 RAW images .. that will be an
JediForce4ever
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ohman...thats really going to be....wow....:bigeyes:b18 said:If that is true, then Fuji need to worry not being able to sold their DSLRs as they are basically competing head to head before in D100 vs S2 Pro and now .. D200 vs S3 Pro ?
D200 that has S3 Pro sensor + 1/500" flash sync + F100 quality viewfinder + 5fps and buffer of 18 RAW images .. that will be an
I don't think S3 users will be particularly pissed, the major gripe most people (myself included) have on the S2/S3 is that the body is the lousy F80 and without any upgrades like the D100 or D70. And the weak construction, coupled with slow transfer from sensor to buffer and buffer to card. If Nikon supplies body and electronics, and Fuji supplies sensor, that'll be quite a good partnership to bang hardest on the best technologies. It's more like having more options. There has never been a full blooded Fuji D-SLR anyway.
Maybe S4pro will be 4-thirds (as Fuji has signed in with 4-thirds for quite a while now), and the D200 (whatever) shall remain Fuji's legacy of partnership with Nikon. Not too bad for Fuji to have lots of lenses to use, and for Nikon to have an alternate sensor to Sony.
Maybe S4pro will be 4-thirds (as Fuji has signed in with 4-thirds for quite a while now), and the D200 (whatever) shall remain Fuji's legacy of partnership with Nikon. Not too bad for Fuji to have lots of lenses to use, and for Nikon to have an alternate sensor to Sony.
yowch said:
4/3 is just a standard, so pledging to support it does not mean anything. In fact the list of manufacturers is definitely longer than just Oly, Kodak and Sigma. In any case if Fuji does, its bye bye to Nikkors. My guess is, they are just sitting on the side line to observe, if there isn't enough in the arsenal of equipment there is no incentive for them to release a 4/3 body.
In any case it isn't a bad thing, just that some die hard S2/S3pro users will be really pissed and forced to get a Nikon body.
Fuji DSLR users have always been getting Nikon bodies, that's not the problem. The problem is in getting the 'not-so-good' or 'can-certainly-be-better' bodies. S1 was on the consumer F60, S2 and S3 was on the 'prosumer' (I'll say high-end consumer) F80. The D100 and D70 was actually modified F80, with certain 'pro' features added. That said, I don't think Fuji is too concerned, they are afterall selling a sensor and the imaging software.
Not many are aware of this, but Fuji did develop a SuperCCD for medium format (wow) for use on their medium format SLR camera, and that will be the only true Fuji D-SLR. But no sound of that since 3 years ago when it was announced.
Nikon glass is good, Nikon system is good, Nion flash is good, Nikon software (on cam and on PC) is good, and since I like the Fuji colours and sensor, Fuji on Nikon is CERTAINLY good news!
Not many are aware of this, but Fuji did develop a SuperCCD for medium format (wow) for use on their medium format SLR camera, and that will be the only true Fuji D-SLR. But no sound of that since 3 years ago when it was announced.
Nikon glass is good, Nikon system is good, Nion flash is good, Nikon software (on cam and on PC) is good, and since I like the Fuji colours and sensor, Fuji on Nikon is CERTAINLY good news!
shutterbug
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yowch said:
heheh, u said it all. I believe, all will benefit if Nikon, Fuji, & Kodak cross licence their sensor technology with each other. For Fuji and Nikon partnership, Nikon indeed can help in supplying body for up comming S4.
yowch said:
Er... *some* Nikon Glass is good, Nikon Flash is good, Nikon Software so-so (NC UI is a pain to use). Fuji sensor is definitely nice.
I would love to see more 4/3 lenses. Look at the Olys, huge f/2 high quality zoom. A full stop wider than most conventional makers.
Artosoft said:
Hahaha... Yeah... If I remembered correctly I was once told that its in the $4000+ region. But for one of its kind, I think it warrants its price. Its a display of how 4/3 can be exploited. Think about it, a zoom that is only half a stop from your cheap and cheerful (a borrowed term) 50mm f/1.8 with good pix to boot.
I actually think Nikon Software, specifically NC is a piece of outdated sh*t, but that is just me. Not multi-threaded / not hyper-threading aware. Look a Bibble Pro in comparison; one man's work there but so much better except possibly the interpretation of the RAW data that Nikon would naturally have advantage.litefoot said:
They can do much much better, or even better still, like Canon outsource it. It is NOT their core competency.
Watcher said:
This I would most heartily agree!
With all the dual-core/multi-threaded processor designs in market...there is no excuse not to take advantage of it. Even C1 is like a dog when compared to bibble on a fast multiproc system.
To be fair to nikon, they have made quite a few updates recently that have improved memory handling and performance, but on the whole I feel that a total rewrite of Nikon capture is required rather than patching on small improvements. The way the program is designed needs an overhaul in terms of workflow and performance. Maybe a NC5?
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