[ Gallery ] Photos from E-P1

[zqpeh]

hey guys, already sold my EP1 as im fairly disappointed in the autofocus issues..
however, i will definitely get the EP2 should the autofocus be improved.

So wont seeing guys around for a while, thanks for the encouragement from all who shown some, and thanks to the moderator( microscosm) who made me feel glad not posting here anymore.

Aside to Microcosm- this is a place where people share and learn, and looking at me, u know im a newbie here, so try not to constantly bombarded ppl with "in accordance with rules ..
blah.. blah.. "

Dont tell me you go read the fine prints and rules and regulations for every site you visit? If you do.......you should get a life. If you don't, try to understand the many millions who dont too.

 

[Oly5050]

hey guys, already sold my EP1 as im fairly disappointed in the autofocus issues..
however, i will definitely get the EP2 should the autofocus be improved.

So wont seeing guys around for a while, thanks for the encouragement from all who shown some, and thanks to the moderator( microscosm) who made me feel glad not posting here anymore.

Aside to Microcosm- this is a place where people share and learn, and looking at me, u know im a newbie here, so try not to constantly bombarded ppl with "in accordance with rules ..
blah.. blah.. "

Dont tell me you go read the fine prints and rules and regulations for every site you visit? If you do.......you should get a life. If you don't, try to understand the many millions who dont too.

I think u are a little out of line here. FYI, the 4/3 forum is very well moderated here. You are probably new to forum posting and behaviour as well. I as a user, would hate to see people posting all kinds of threads in different places. U did take some nice photos. If u remembered, I liked the pigeon one. If u want to post photos from ur EP1, I think this thread is an appropriate place to post it. Not a new one. Other options are as informed to you by microcosm. And I dun think he bombarded u at all. In any case, microcosm is a great guy and a great advocate for 4/3 users. Its ur loss.

In any case, u posted that u had such fun with your EP-1. I too share ur sentiments. But is the AF problem really that bad? I know it sometimes hunts in low light but otherwise its quite oK with me. Maybe I need to try some other cameras to see and compare, or we should do some objective AF speed tests in the lab or something.

 

[spidey89]

One man's poison may be another man's meat is all I can say,Oly5050,you and I are ok with the AF,but some can't,I believe is cause some have too high an expectation,personal story,when I first got the E-3,was unhappy with the high ISO performance cause I was EXPECTING TOO MUCH,I was expecting it to perform lets say....Canon 1DMKIII kind of high ISO,I went and check out the high ISO from many different sites on the E-3 and compare it to the E-1 and realise I expect too much, so try not to flame him,as long as he is happy
zqpeh, I'm not sure what happened but my guess it's probably a misunderstanding and Microcosm didn't mean to tick you off in anyway so chill ya?

 

[madmacs]

One man's poison may be another man's meat is all I can say,Oly5050,you and I are ok with the AF,but some can't,I believe is cause some have too high an expectation,personal story,when I first got the E-3,was unhappy with the high ISO performance cause I was EXPECTING TOO MUCH,I was expecting it to perform lets say....Canon 1DMKIII kind of high ISO,I went and check out the high ISO from many different sites on the E-3 and compare it to the E-1 and realise I expect too much, so try not to flame him,as long as he is happy
zqpeh, I'm not sure what happened but my guess it's probably a misunderstanding and Microcosm didn't mean to tick you off in anyway so chill ya?

all i can say is he didn't do his homework well enough before getting the e-p1. ;p

 

[microcosm]

hey guys, already sold my EP1 as im fairly disappointed in the autofocus issues..
however, i will definitely get the EP2 should the autofocus be improved.

So wont seeing guys around for a while, thanks for the encouragement from all who shown some, and thanks to the moderator( microscosm) who made me feel glad not posting here anymore.

Aside to Microcosm- this is a place where people share and learn, and looking at me, u know im a newbie here, so try not to constantly bombarded ppl with "in accordance with rules ..
blah.. blah.. "

Dont tell me you go read the fine prints and rules and regulations for every site you visit? If you do.......you should get a life. If you don't, try to understand the many millions who dont too.

Don't need to explain myself much.

Read the Terms of Use of this forums.

You are hereby given a major infraction for the above.

And congrats for being the first person I have ever given a major infraction.

ps: Try buying a house and not read the contract. Same thing, you are screwed. Here too.

 

[hydroburn249]

i dont know the full story, so cant comment much.

i've only been in the forums for less than a month, but from what i've seen and read, microcosm has been one of those people whom are really helpful in this 4/3 and m4/3 forum.

 

[microcosm]

I just want to explain this once because I really hate to explain this again and again...

(1) There is the term of use in this forums, and it is NOT written by me but by the people who owns this forums (someone actually does, this is not given to us by some government hand outs). So someone is paying (a lot of money) to get these forums up. All they need from everyone is to read and understand the terms of use of this forums. It is there to keep things in order. It is like being invited to someone's house and then respecting the house rules.

(2) When the house rules are violated (flaming, hurling insults, arguments, spams, etc), then the housekeepers (moderators) will have to come in. In mild cases, warnings are issued as reminders. Severe cases, minor or major infractions are served.

(3) In every household, if you piss off the housekeeper, who happens to be very close friends of the owners, your welcome will cease. Therefore it is a house rule that it becomes a major taboo to piss off the housekeepers. Usually, it is a major infraction served to cool heads down and make the perpetrator realise housekeepers must be respected at all times, and in severe cases, the person gets banished from the forums. And based on a tracking system we don't want to reveal, it can get the person on the "ban on sight" list. That is the nastiest of the nastiest which we NEVER EVER LIKE TO DO.

So I hope that a understanding on the house rules (for more than 90,000 registered users) that keeps things in order here. Think about this, in some American towns, there are less than 90,000 people. So it is quite a task to keep things in order... town sheriffs (moderators) are little and the community is large.

Therefore I hope everyone understand why the house rules have to be enforced and why in the last 4 years, no one have been even given a major infraction in here because everyone has been community minded.

For the case of zqpeh, unfortunately it is a case of "making an example". While I am everyone's friend here, I am still afterall, a moderator and the one who started this section of the forums. There is no ego involved here, just housekeeping.

Hope to have everyone's understanding.

And hope this is the last time I have to say this.

 

[Oly5050]

Anyone got any photos from the EP-1 with the FL14 flash fired???

 

[mexxmillion]

i just got the flash FL-14 yesterday.. its cute and funky.
that alone, i wanted the flash ( and i will keep it ) .
so far, my experience with the flash in term of performance is not very good yet..
seems like the minimum power the flash can fire is too much .. ( and the max is not a lot also)
if you shoot within a certain exposure ( e.g 60/f2.8 with ISO400 max) it performance is ok.
when i wanna drag the shutter / ISO to make the BG brighter, say shoot at 60/f1.7 ISO 800+, it tends to blows out the subject.. shooting close up subject also blows out.
some samples here..
When it works..

when its not so working

when its not working at all

i am used to 580ex, 430ex but i will just learn to work within its limit slowly. just as i learn to work with E-P1.. its worth it.
cheers

 

[madmacs]

how come the FL14 so harsh?

here's one using my sb800 in aperture mode, and e-p1 in manual mode.

 

[zqpeh]

Look microcosm, if you just want to make an example out of me here, its fine.

I m only just asking here, what have i said in that post to deserve the major infraction?
I m only explaining that, you could be more hospitable in handling newbies like me.

I fully understand that you being moderators is here to do your job, but there could be
friendlier approach to it. That's all. I don't see how this is regarded as inflaming you.

I do agree to the other commentators that you have been very helpful in this micro4/3
community. And micro4/3 is a system i will come back to, should there be further improvements in EP2 in the near future.

In any case, sorry if you take offences at my feedback to you.

 

[madmacs]

Look microcosm, if you just want to make an example out of me here, its fine.

I m only just asking here, what have i said in that post to deserve the major infraction?
I m only explaining that, you could be more hospitable in handling newbies like me.

I fully understand that you being moderators is here to do your job, but there could be
friendlier approach to it. That's all. I don't see how this is regarded as inflaming you.

I do agree to the other commentators that you have been very helpful in this micro4/3
community. And micro4/3 is a system i will come back to, should there be further improvements in EP2 in the near future.

In any case, sorry if you take offences at my feedback to you.

can take this offline pls?

 

[Oly5050]

Dear Mex,

Thanks for posting the flash photos. I agree, the flash looks quite harsh even when it is supposed to be working, but that could be because of the environment which is taken in.

As for madmacs, ur shot looks like the flash was working more like a fill in flash, or u were able to bounce the flash in the room. So of course the effect would be different. Try using ur flash in a disco environment like Mex did. A diffuser, bounce card etc makes a lot of difference. The FL14 is a direct flash.

 

[spidey89]

Actually,I think it's more of how he used it,looking at his settings,his example was 60/f2.8 at ISO 400 exposure is correct,when dragging the shutter/ISO to make the BG brighter,his example was 60 f1.7 at ISO800,no idea about the + but ok,it blows out the subject cause the subject is too close,as far as I understand in flash photographer, and I read once in a book after I understood, flash exposure is determined by aperture and background exposure is determined by shutter speed. from 2.8 you open to 1.7,ISO 400 jump to 800,it's not a wonder why your subjects are over exposure,you should be,if I calculate correctly, increase ISO by 1 stop,increase aperture by 1 stop and making the shutter slower,so it should be from 60/f2.8 ISO 400 become example for shutter speed 30/f3.5 ISO 800,sure your subject might move a little,but beats having an overexposed picture

 

[mexxmillion]

hi.. thanks for the comments..
I am not a pro photog and the exposure values are just given as example.
In terms of FL-14, I am just saying its a cool flash but its not as flexible as bigger units. Thats all.
To test , I used M mode with some different exposure values ( in a very dark room , so no ambient light)..say exposure 60/2.8 with FL-14, it works well up to ISO 400, from ISO 800 and onwards it make over exposed photos.
even after I dial down the FEC to -3. its no effect. which i think the flash cant lower its output anymore
granted that Olympus is a new system to me. and I still have lots to learn. and I think the FL-14 manual mentioned about maintaining minimum 1.5m distance from the subject..
If some experts here used FL-14, please share your settings and how it can be work better.
Cheers..

 

[spidey89]

haha,can't help you already then,I'm used FL-50R and the E-P1,so yea,lol

 

[madmacs]

just to satisfy my curiousity, i shot this in a darkened room using direct flash from the sb800 with no diffuser.

 

[madmacs]

hi.. thanks for the comments..
I am not a pro photog and the exposure values are just given as example.
In terms of FL-14, I am just saying its a cool flash but its not as flexible as bigger units. Thats all.
To test , I used M mode with some different exposure values ( in a very dark room , so no ambient light)..say exposure 60/2.8 with FL-14, it works well up to ISO 400, from ISO 800 and onwards it make over exposed photos.
even after I dial down the FEC to -3. its no effect. which i think the flash cant lower its output anymore
granted that Olympus is a new system to me. and I still have lots to learn. and I think the FL-14 manual mentioned about maintaining minimum 1.5m distance from the subject..
If some experts here used FL-14, please share your settings and how it can be work better.
Cheers..

ah you used M mode. FEC doesn't effect in M mode. how does it perform in P or A mode with the flash in TTL Auto?

 

[mexxmillion]

sure.. may be i didnt explain or I just simply dont know how Olympus flash system works..
But i throughly tested flash performance at home before i brought out to my office's halloween party. and my initial test results tell me its how it works ( cant lower output of the flash below certain level)
to simply explain, here are some test shots..
first a few shots from ISO200,400,800,1600 all in P mode. camera chooses 60/f1.7 as exposure.
Same performance in A mode ( with f1.7) as well.
the subjects are about 4.5 feet away from camera.

i am just wondering, why the camera didnt stop down to like f2.8 for better flash exposure if its going to overexposed.

 

[madmacs]

sure.. may be i didnt explain or I just simply dont know how Olympus flash system works..
But i throughly tested flash performance at home before i brought out to my office's halloween party. and my initial test results tell me its how it works ( cant lower output of the flash below certain level)
to simply explain, here are some test shots..
first a few shots from ISO200,400,800,1600 all in P mode. camera chooses 60/f1.7 as exposure.
Same performance in A mode ( with f1.7) as well.
the subjects are about 4.5 feet away from camera.

...

i am just wondering, why the camera didnt stop down to like f2.8 for better flash exposure if its going to overexposed.

that's strange. what is the flash mode set to? for TTL flash the subject (the bear) would usually be correctly exposed. it's just whether the background is brighter or darker.