Fujifilm F200EXR is a GEM

[iceman]

It seems for manual mode, one can select different shutter speeds but the aperture selection is only limted to 2 values. Am I right?
E.g. at the widest zoom, the 2 apertures are 3.3 and 9.

 

[limta8]

how to take a portrait with blurred background with Fujifil F200EXR? i had tried so hard by using P-MODE, but only can see abit blurred background only.
It very easy to take by macro mode, example flower shot, portrait I think is imposible. If you can produce it, any photo sharing on this?

 

[cumzball]

It seems for manual mode, one can select different shutter speeds but the aperture selection is only limted to 2 values. Am I right?
E.g. at the widest zoom, the 2 apertures are 3.3 and 9.

Yes u r...

 

[cumzball]

tis is the day shot with ISO 100.. also able to see abit noise..

I got the same problem with you... still trying to figure out why...
PP perhaps can solve this?

 

[+evenstar]

how to take a portrait with blurred background with Fujifil F200EXR? i had tried so hard by using P-MODE, but only can see abit blurred background only.
It very easy to take by macro mode, example flower shot, portrait I think is imposible. If you can produce it, any photo sharing on this?

read up on your basics on DOF, and what factors affect it

 

[limta8]

yeah I am understand on teory of DOF, but it this possible to be done by any compact camera? any one using F200EXR able to take potrait with blurring background before?

 

[tsjcsl]

I got the camera for $399 2 months ago. Used it for 2 weeks and it failed. It's still with Fuji because "the part has not arrived"....arrgghh:thumbsd:

 

[toofuu]

hi bros, is it normal that everytime i halfpress the shutter to focus, the lcd will become much dimmer? but the actual photo is still bright

 

[Stunner]

FYI to those interested with F200, Audio House still have stocks.

Quite skeptical about them, even when I called to confirm the package, I got a feeling tt AH staff will try to pull off some stunt during sales. I am a bit noob to photography and I got that little knowledge learnt from this wonderful forum and some reviews online. True enough, when I asked the salesperson for comparable cameras to F200 (wanted to test his honesty), he showed me the Sony W360! I was like WTF and I asked him about the image sensor and he told me that it is 1/2.3" and insisted that it is a bigger sensor! Wah liao! He went on to show me W350 and said that it is cheaper coz of a smaller LCD. He then blabbered about his company event and how Fujifilm cameras had noisy pics and Sony did'nt. When I told him tt I wanted to get the F200EXR, he seems abit TL and recommend tt to view some trial shots and will project them on the computer. I agreed and wanted to see what other tricks he will be pulling off. He took with F200EXR first and he was fiddling with the camera with some settings and then he did the same with W360. I attempted to see what kinda of settings he was making but he did'nt want me to and brought the camera to his view. When he showed me the photos, I realised that F200's was taken at a full zoom whilst the W360's was taken at a much lower zoom. He said that it is ok if I still want the F200 and I told him yes, I will still take the F200. The same TL look was observed and I think for that moment, he wanted to squeeze his balls and perhaps he lost a possibly higher commission for Sony digital cameras.

Anyway, I got mine at $379 - 8gb Kingston, extra batt, case, mini tripod, screen protector, sd reader and cleaning kit. MS, AP, Song, John 3:16, SLR Revolution all no more stocks and certain Best Denki and Harvey Norman still have stocks but are priced higher.

 

[ajax84]

Hi Stunner:

I had also just gotten my black F200 from Audio House at Bendemeer this evening! Haha. Same price and package as yours. I just paid for it and left, didn't bother asking which others to compare with lol. And yup, some HN still have stocks, but selling at $399.

 

[ajax84]

If I may share the settings which I use most frequently.

Ironically EXR Auto or EXR ... is not the best setting. They often select unnecessarily high ISO.
EXR HR – Good only at ISO100 and often unnecessarily higher ISO selected (without pixel coupling noise control 12Mp). Only DR100 used cos dual capturing not possible at 12MP
EXR DR - up to DR800 but often unnecessary higher ISO selected (with pixel coupling noise control) and disabled flash
EXR SN - Only DR100 used, sacrificing benefits of higher DR which recovers details not possible with most non-DSLR, often unnecessary higher ISO selected (with better pixel coupling noise control) and disabled exposure compensation

P-mode is my most preferred with these settings
Shooting mode - P Program AE
Image size - M 4:3 for 6 MP (for active EXR pixel coupling noise control and DR dual capture as confirmed with Fujifilm)
Flash mode - Auto
Photometry - multi (for better DR contrast sensing)
Focus - spot
Dual IS - on
Film Simulation - Provia mode
F-button setting F-mode
- set ISO to Auto800 (noise beyond which no better than others) or Auto1600 with flash off for available light photography if ISO1600 noise can be accepted
- set Dynamic Range priority to Auto (1/3 stop lost if DR % is fixed)
- image quality to fine for low compression
Note: at P-mode, camera works on the shuttle speeds (and 2 apertures) before increasing eventually to this selected ISO800. DR is increased automatically for overexposure detected in the multi-metering by recovering the loss details from the other half of the 6MP underexposed according to the DR % in a single shot (dual capturing). This explains why only 6MP available in EXR operation. A 6MP with wider DR range usually produces better picture than 12MP with narrower DR range unless the picture is good with just flat exposure (the 2-consecutive shot of Ricoh CX-1's 9MP initiative is adversely affected by subject movement). Similarly, a picture at low light can be pretty ugly for a poorer noise control 12MP as compared to better noise controlled 6MP (not talking of noise suppression).

The weaknesses of most compact digital are too small sensor, noise as ISO increases, loss details because of low DR, smaller aperture, shorter lens for some like LX3, optical quality at extreme zoom for beyond A4 reproduction (only needed occasionally) and any longer optics than 5x is likely compromise under space and weight constraints.

At this point in time, F200EXR has proven to strike a balance in emphasing portability (PDAphone size) with adequate optical range, good resolution, lower noise, wider DR and higher ISO more than most others except big enough aperture. But its ability to handle ISO800 beyond any others make the need of bigger aperture unnecessary, not forgetting the inconvenience of bulk and weight for the faster lens. And between lens size and optical sensor, personally the latter is more important. It seems to me that F200EXR and LX3 are the only non-DSLR generous enough with larger sensor which delivers DR and noise control that most compact digital cameras can only admire.

But one major problem with F200EXR is to discover on the PC monitor that the camera LCD sometimes has betrayed its unusually good picture quality, particularly in the details and absence of noise in low light conditions that very few compact digitals can seriously handle.

Hi,

I've just gotten this camera, and I wonder why you need to set the image size to M 4:3. I know about the EXR SN and DR mode when engaged will reduce image size by half. However, I tried all your settings above, but I set image size to L 4:3, and it still worked. My picture still has DR above 100%, and is at L 4:3.

So my question is, is M 4:3 really necessary?

 

[+evenstar]

up to personal preference. i use M too to save on memory space as 6MP is more than enough for me

 

[ajax84]

No no, you got me wrong. I would like the full 12mp if possible to retain as much pixels as possible, but if this is done at the expense of lower IQ than at 6mp, then I would rather go for 6mp.

The question i'm asking, is whether selecting full L 4:3 will still haf same IQ as M 4:3, in the settings above. =)

 

[ExplorerZ]

No no, you got me wrong. I would like the full 12mp if possible to retain as much pixels as possible, but if this is done at the expense of lower IQ than at 6mp, then I would rather go for 6mp.

The question i'm asking, is whether selecting full L 4:3 will still haf same IQ as M 4:3, in the settings above. =)

if you did view it at 100%, u find that the image looks pixelated at L4:3 when u shoot at either EXR SN or DR. it doesn't give you extra details for setting L instead of M in these cases, the 12mp are the result of up scaling the 6mp image from either SN or DR mode.

 

[Cheesecake]

jus bought one from Audio House in Liang Court this evening.

they still have stock, albeit limited.

as in accordance with what fellow CSer Stunner had said, no dirty tricks from Audio House.

S$379 inclusive of GST.
can choose to pay by credit card.
no interest-free installment for purchases under S$500/. even if u hit S$500, they will charge an 'admin fee'. call them to find out more la.

standard package includes:

1). 1 X 8gb card
2). 1 X mini tripod
3). 1 X 3rd party battery
4). 1 X screen protector
5). 1 X lens cleaning kit
6). 1 X card reader
7). 1 X camera case

 

[vaxvms]

my frd get this in HK last wkend
hkd$$1648
SGD$293.23 only OMG!!!!!!!!!!

thanks to strengthen SIN$$$

 

[anglim]

L4:3 is at 12MP where P-mode cannot increase DR. You need 6MP+6MP for 2 difference sets of exposure.

I think DR200 and above is when dynamic range really comes into its effect. Since there is no DR0, I think DR100 means every pixels has equal exposure. DR200 has 50% of the pixels underexposed by 1 stop, DR400 by 2 stops and DR800 by 3 stops. If DR100 means 2 sets of exposure with different of 1 stop, then resoliution cannot be 12MP anymore.

Moreover, the part of a picture usually lost details when overexposed by more than 2 stops. F200EXR processes the underposure pixels to recover lost details of those overexposed areas. Hence, lower the DR, the less the effectiveness in handling high contrast picture.

P-mode with S4:3, DR still functions but at half the resolution of M4:3.

Hi,

I've just gotten this camera, and I wonder why you need to set the image size to M 4:3. I know about the EXR SN and DR mode when engaged will reduce image size by half. However, I tried all your settings above, but I set image size to L 4:3, and it still worked. My picture still has DR above 100%, and is at L 4:3.

So my question is, is M 4:3 really necessary?

 

[Stunner]

Sorry, some noob questions. Does this means that DR200 should be the general setting to adopt? Or does it still depend on indoor, outdoor, low light or harsh light? I read in somewhere DR800 in DR mode is best for harsh light, is tt true?

L4:3 is at 12MP where P-mode cannot increase DR. You need 6MP+6MP for 2 difference sets of exposure.

I think DR200 and above is when dynamic range really comes into its effect. Since there is no DR0, I think DR100 means every pixels has equal exposure. DR200 has 50% of the pixels underexposed by 1 stop, DR400 by 2 stops and DR800 by 3 stops. If DR100 means 2 sets of exposure with different of 1 stop, then resoliution cannot be 12MP anymore.

Moreover, the part of a picture usually lost details when overexposed by more than 2 stops. F200EXR processes the underposure pixels to recover lost details of those overexposed areas. Hence, lower the DR, the less the effectiveness in handling high contrast picture.

P-mode with S4:3, DR still functions but at half the resolution of M4:3.

 

[coolsigg]

my frd get this in HK last wkend
hkd$$1648
SGD$293.23 only OMG!!!!!!!!!!

thanks to strengthen SIN$$$

I am going to HK next week. May I know which place in HK? Does Fujifilm have international warranty? TIA.

 

[+evenstar]

I am going to HK next week. May I know which place in HK? Does Fujifilm have international warranty? TIA.

there is intl warranty