gommy
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At least you think like me...Stupid you!:bsmilie::bsmilie:
FUJIFILM announces FinePix X100
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At least you think like me...Stupid you!:bsmilie::bsmilie:
Royale With Cheese
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Oi..... Dont take it out on me hor, later my teeth will suffer when I book my appointment to cover up that decay... :bsmilie:
Btw, I found my camera blower very useful lately, its been blowing out food scraps from my wisdom tooth hole :bsmilie:
Anyway, 2011 spring estimated, that is 1/2 a year away. Lets pray hard Sony or the other brands come up with something as orgasmic as this but at a lower price to suit poor people like me.
Should I buy a CV 50mm F1.1 or a 35mm pre asph lux for my Hexar?? :think: Or take the plunge for the X100
In the wise words of master yoda "meditate on this I must......"
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I went home to hug my Holga :cry:
gommy
Senior Member
Not taking out on u lah. We write with smileys mah?
Don't take the plunge! CV50mmf1.1 or Lux35preAsph-actually depends on you. I'm a 50mm guy.
Buy M8 lah. (You not serious photog, don't buy M9 ok! hahaha.....)
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Royale With Cheese
Senior Member
wa, thats a first, not hug the beer bottle mei? Dont pretend, you have having a alcoholic drink behind the screen now, admit it!!!
coz I'm having tiger now, dfs, cheap cheap! hahaha!
gommy said:
Yep, actually I did think of the M8 for awhile but after considering the cost, which is still hovering at SGD3.5k at least :cry: Think wait for M9 in 2 years will be that cost
My only reason for the M8 was because I needed a digital camera, I have none at the moment! So yea, today came along the X100, all gun blazing to get it until the 150,000Yen price tag came out, heart sink already. I was expecting it to be in the range of SGD1.5k or below SGD2k....
Oh well, see how it goes, still got more than 6months till spring of 2011, never know what my decision will be...
X100..... So sexy la!!!!!!!!!
Royale With Cheese
Senior Member
I'm thinking Fuji, the controls are just full of sexy
The Dry Box
Senior Member
The x100 does look a lot more feature packed than x1. Plus, the viewfinder system is interesting. Fujinon asph... it's going to be sharp.
Thank goodness I am done with digital. If not, I'll probably find something to sell at this very moment for this sweet looking thing.
Thank goodness I am done with digital. If not, I'll probably find something to sell at this very moment for this sweet looking thing.
The Dry Box
Senior Member
I used to be equally compulsive!
Thanks guys for your advices.. with the launch of the x100 happening only in 2011, I can take time to deliberate before deciding... have a great day..
Cheesecake
Senior Member
:bsmilie::bsmilie:
*ahem*... can we have less colourful language in our lust for this cam? 
and i really agree with weekh on the digital xpan...
and i really agree with weekh on the digital xpan...
I think much of the allure of the X100 is the OVF. The market has been pining for a large-sensor compact with a useable built-in OVF for so long that such a camera is sure to create a lot of furore. And there is no way that I will compare the X100 with other large sensor compacts, not even the X1. Like many who need reading glasses, the X100 is the camera that we have been cyring out loud for for a long time.
The speculated price is definitely a let-down. However, considering what you need to pay for a Klasse, the X100's price positioning doesnt really seem that "expensive" anymore Still I am hoping that the street price is below $2k.
The speculated price is definitely a let-down. However, considering what you need to pay for a Klasse, the X100's price positioning doesnt really seem that "expensive" anymore
Still I am hoping that the street price is below $2k.
artspraken
New Member
This is only my personal opinion.
OPINION
If price is SGD 2300, I think the Fuji X100 is targetted at the same demographic of people who bought the Leica X1. Many people said Leica X1 was overpriced, but still got people who buy X1 (if only for the red dot!).
The price of SGD 2300 implies that the FujiX100 is not targetting people who bought Pan/Oly m4/3, Ricoh GXR, Sony NEX, Samsung NX10 etc. Sorry about this opinion, but I feel the price speaks for itself.
THE NICHE
X100 niche is for a upmarket digital PnS with no interchangeable lens. Need to understand this niche. I believe there is a niche of camera consumers:
a. who are cash rich and suffer from GAS frequently;
b. collect analog RF gear (ie. M system or antique camera);
c. predominately use film;
d. need a digital PnS as backup to their analog cameras;
e. do not want to buy a digital M (M8 or M9) either because (i) it cost a kidney or (ii) digital depreciation is perceived to be not worth the investment;
People who fit the category above want a digital PnS that, although only a backup, can still show off.
Price for this niche is just in between:
(i) Leica digital M system; and
(ii) cheaper m4/3(Pan/Oly), GXR (Ricoh) or NEX (Sony) system.
There were many arguments about Leica X1, but essentially I believe the Leica X1 filled in the niche above.
THE PRACTICAL CONSIDERATION
First, my view is that Fuji X100 marketing folks should beware the secondary market. The price of SGD2300 may be a challenge if (i) new M version is released; (ii) supplies of M9 increase over time and (iii) more and more M8s enter the secondary market. The result is that digital M8 becomes a cheaper option as an entry level digital M, and M8 becomes a substitute for X100. The price of 2nd hand M8 is going to be moving close to a brand new X100. A cheap used M8 will become a viable option for a RF digital wannabe. This is not critical to the X100 demographic I described above, but it does affect the volume. This is my opinion of future. Only my opinion nia.
Second, my view is alot depend on the lens performance. For non-interchangeable lens, the lens is the be all and end all. If the reviews show that lens is no good, no matter how retro or nice the form factor, it is not going to succeed wan lor. By contrast, if lens is super good, then no need to have interchangeable lens!
Third, I am personally very interested to see how the Ricoh GXR A12 28mm module (due end of 2010) matches up against the Fuji X100. Both will be in market roughly same time. The 28mm module is a 35mm FL equivalent based on the cropped sensor. So it is going to be very similar to Fuji X100. The Ricoh platform will not have the retro form factor of Fuji X100, but Ricoh has a high customisable system which is familiar to many users. I will be particularly interested to see how the new A12 28mm module matches up against the Fuji X100 28mm lens.
OPINION
If price is SGD 2300, I think the Fuji X100 is targetted at the same demographic of people who bought the Leica X1. Many people said Leica X1 was overpriced, but still got people who buy X1 (if only for the red dot!).
The price of SGD 2300 implies that the FujiX100 is not targetting people who bought Pan/Oly m4/3, Ricoh GXR, Sony NEX, Samsung NX10 etc. Sorry about this opinion, but I feel the price speaks for itself.
THE NICHE
X100 niche is for a upmarket digital PnS with no interchangeable lens. Need to understand this niche. I believe there is a niche of camera consumers:
a. who are cash rich and suffer from GAS frequently;
b. collect analog RF gear (ie. M system or antique camera);
c. predominately use film;
d. need a digital PnS as backup to their analog cameras;
e. do not want to buy a digital M (M8 or M9) either because (i) it cost a kidney or (ii) digital depreciation is perceived to be not worth the investment;
People who fit the category above want a digital PnS that, although only a backup, can still show off.
Price for this niche is just in between:
(i) Leica digital M system; and
(ii) cheaper m4/3(Pan/Oly), GXR (Ricoh) or NEX (Sony) system.
There were many arguments about Leica X1, but essentially I believe the Leica X1 filled in the niche above.
THE PRACTICAL CONSIDERATION
First, my view is that Fuji X100 marketing folks should beware the secondary market. The price of SGD2300 may be a challenge if (i) new M version is released; (ii) supplies of M9 increase over time and (iii) more and more M8s enter the secondary market. The result is that digital M8 becomes a cheaper option as an entry level digital M, and M8 becomes a substitute for X100. The price of 2nd hand M8 is going to be moving close to a brand new X100. A cheap used M8 will become a viable option for a RF digital wannabe. This is not critical to the X100 demographic I described above, but it does affect the volume. This is my opinion of future. Only my opinion nia.
Second, my view is alot depend on the lens performance. For non-interchangeable lens, the lens is the be all and end all. If the reviews show that lens is no good, no matter how retro or nice the form factor, it is not going to succeed wan lor. By contrast, if lens is super good, then no need to have interchangeable lens!
Third, I am personally very interested to see how the Ricoh GXR A12 28mm module (due end of 2010) matches up against the Fuji X100. Both will be in market roughly same time. The 28mm module is a 35mm FL equivalent based on the cropped sensor. So it is going to be very similar to Fuji X100. The Ricoh platform will not have the retro form factor of Fuji X100, but Ricoh has a high customisable system which is familiar to many users. I will be particularly interested to see how the new A12 28mm module matches up against the Fuji X100 28mm lens.
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Good analysis, artspraken.
Agree with you that this will be a niche market product. With a non-interchangeable fixed lens, this is really not an option for those considering EVILs or MILs. Or the GXR for that matter. The X100 is clearly aimed at the X1, and is what the X1 should have been in many people's mind.
I would also like to venture further that an M8 + 28mm f/2 would be in the ball park of twice as much as the X100. It is an alternative if this is what you work with. Of course the versatility of the M system will always be an advantage. But there will always be an occasion for a compact. And if the price speculation is accurate, Fuji is indeed very clever in positioning the X100, IMHO.
Agree with you that this will be a niche market product. With a non-interchangeable fixed lens, this is really not an option for those considering EVILs or MILs. Or the GXR for that matter. The X100 is clearly aimed at the X1, and is what the X1 should have been in many people's mind.
I would also like to venture further that an M8 + 28mm f/2 would be in the ball park of twice as much as the X100. It is an alternative if this is what you work with. Of course the versatility of the M system will always be an advantage. But there will always be an occasion for a compact. And if the price speculation is accurate, Fuji is indeed very clever in positioning the X100, IMHO.
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