Fotografer.net requires every member to send passport info, something for Clubsnap?


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Fotografer.net requires every member to send passport info, could this be something for Clubsnap? I think it could stop all those nonsense attacking to others and make this place a safer one?

Hong Sien
 

hongsien said:
Fotografer.net requires every member to send passport info, could this be something for Clubsnap? I think it could stop all those nonsense attacking to others and make this place a safer one?

Hong Sien

I'd actually feel rather unsafe giving out my passport no. in case of identity theft.
 

kahheng said:
I'd actually feel rather unsafe giving out my passport no. in case of identity theft.
There are many instances where one also have to give a copy of their passport, like renting a car........

HS
 

hongsien said:
There are many instances where one also have to give a copy of their passport, like renting a car........

HS

But I will not want to give it up on the internet. Who knows what kind of people the people who run that website are.
 

kahheng said:
But I will not want to give it up on the internet. Who knows what kind of people the people who run that website are.
Or give them a (low res) scan of your ID lah! They just need to confirm the name.........and for Clubsnap it should be ok I think.....

HS
 

hongsien said:
Or give them a (low res) scan of your ID lah! They just need to confirm the name.........and for Clubsnap it should be ok I think.....

HS

but wat's ur ratinonale of doing so?? juz to stop all the nonsense attack?? it's abit overkill dun u think so??
 

have you ever considered...hackers!?!?!
 

That is NOT a good idea - privacy issues, too much admin work on the part of CS all just to "stop all those nonsense attacking". Moreover, fake passport info could still be easily sent - and that is even worse because then you get a false sense of security

It is much quicker and effortless for the admins to close/lock the threads that have gone astray. I think CS has other more important issues to grapple with - such as upgrading its servers as indicated by its recent appeal for funds

Keep it simple - CS is not a commercial entity
 

destiny_star said:
but wat's ur ratinonale of doing so?? juz to stop all the nonsense attack?? it's abit overkill dun u think so??
I wish it was only for that, I was thinking to prevent trolls and people coming in with multiple nicks, and harassing others.......there were some instances recently. I don't know how to monitor these, IP addresses is a way, but then one will get problems logging in from work, or from overseas.

HS
 

goering said:
That is NOT a good idea - privacy issues, too much admin work on the part of CS all just to "stop all those nonsense attacking". Moreover, fake passport info could still be easily sent - and that is even worse because then you get a false sense of security

It is much quicker and effortless for the admins to close/lock the threads that have gone astray. I think CS has other more important issues to grapple with - such as upgrading its servers as indicated by its recent appeal for funds

Keep it simple - CS is not a commercial entity
Depends how you see it. I believe the server problem is easily solved (basically a money problem), but people's behaviour like trolls and multiple nicks and then harrassing others is serious enough as it can also bring Clubsnap into problems. Hacking here is not a big problem, as as far as I know it hasn't occurred that many times here.......

People here tend to get heated up, and some will do strange things........

If you think this is not serious enough? Yes, locking in threads is a solution, but not a permanent one. There must be a way of getting an ID confirmed somehow with the real persons name........

HS
 

Anyway, photoshop does the trick very well here.

Just forget about it...
 

The problem with FN.net is that:
- Many people using double nick and using fakes name
- Some people register for the purpose of marking down other people photos.

And many other problem. I personally think its overkill to submit our IC or passport. But a rule is a rule. CS do not need to resort on this kind of checking, IMO. They do have some IP blocking too, sometime the admin blocked the whole subnet, it caused the whole town can not access.
 

hongsien said:
Fotografer.net requires every member to send passport info, could this be something for Clubsnap? I think it could stop all those nonsense attacking to others and make this place a safer one?

Hong Sien
dumbest idea. there are many photo related website and forum out there. Absolutely no way am I going to give them my password information, let alone giving them a copy.
 

Deadpoet said:
dumbest idea. there are many photo related website and forum out there. Absolutely no way am I going to give them my password information, let alone giving them a copy.
Don't be so paranoid lah! A low res copy can't make a nice passport!..........the main cause of fake identities is because real passports get stolen! And fakes ones these people can make themselves, they don't need your copy.......

HS
 

hongsien said:
Don't be so paranoid lah! A low res copy can't make a nice passport!..........the main cause of fake identities is because real passports get stolen! And fakes ones these people can make themselves, they don't need your copy.......

HS

Er, it's not about making copies of your passport or ID, it's about being able to impersonate someone using the information from the passport or ID. DOB, place of birth, passport no. to do bad things.

I suggest that people who submit IDs to that FN site use FAKE ids with false information :) After all they just want an "ID" right? You can basically give them anything :bsmilie:
 

1) There aren't hackers now, because hackers have no reaons (yet) to take an interest in hacking. But with the admin holding the IDs, there's one (additional reason) to bait hackers.

2) IDs can be faked, especially when sent through the internet. Low-res or high-res. Scan, PS-superimpose, send. False sense of security, I parrot.

3) CS-Admin has to bear the responsibilities of requiring IDs in the event of security and privacy breached that can be traced back to CS. As mentioned, this level of risk, for what purpose?

4) Trolls, nuisance posters, multiple IDs are reflections of socio-psychological behaviours of a community. There's no quick fix. It would be presumptious to assume any quick fix to be a solution. It only invites these trolls, nuisance posters, multiple IDs to try to beat the system.

5) Again, do we have such a serious problem here that warrants taking a risk?
 

shinken said:
1) There aren't hackers now, because hackers have no reaons (yet) to take an interest in hacking. But with the admin holding the IDs, there's one (additional reason) to bait hackers.

2) IDs can be faked, especially when sent through the internet. Low-res or high-res. Scan, PS-superimpose, send. False sense of security, I parrot.

3) CS-Admin has to bear the responsibilities of requiring IDs in the event of security and privacy breached that can be traced back to CS. As mentioned, this level of risk, for what purpose?

4) Trolls, nuisance posters, multiple IDs are reflections of socio-psychological behaviours of a community. There's no quick fix. It would be presumptious to assume any quick fix to be a solution. It only invites these trolls, nuisance posters, multiple IDs to try to beat the system.

5) Again, do we have such a serious problem here that warrants taking a risk?


You make good points.

Actually I feel that one of the ways to cut down on trolls, multiple ids, etc, is to disallow registration with non ISP email addresses. FredMiranda does this. So not Hotmail, Gmail, Mailinator, etc addresses. For sure, it will upset some legitimate users of these email services but it will force much more accountability.
 

kahheng said:
You make good points.

Actually I feel that one of the ways to cut down on trolls, multiple ids, etc, is to disallow registration with non ISP email addresses. FredMiranda does this. So not Hotmail, Gmail, Mailinator, etc addresses. For sure, it will upset some legitimate users of these email services but it will force much more accountability.
That shouldn't be a problem in SG? Almost everyone I think gets a free email address from their ISP company, isn't it?

HS
 

hongsien said:
Fotografer.net requires every member to send passport info, could this be something for Clubsnap? I think it could stop all those nonsense attacking to others and make this place a safer one?

Hong Sien

There are PS templates of fake passports popping up around on the internet... Apparently, i hold british, US, china and sinkapore passports... :bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
 

hongsien said:
Don't be so paranoid lah! A low res copy can't make a nice passport!..........the main cause of fake identities is because real passports get stolen! And fakes ones these people can make themselves, they don't need your copy.......

HS
as many had said it also, it's the information that is what hackers want. identify theft is a big problem around the world. It took me 18 months to straighten everything out after someone use part of my ID to apply for credit cards etc.

Go ahead and submit your data, there are many other sites, if fotogtapher.net wants my passport information before I can register, I just won't go there.

It's not paranoia, better be on your toes, better be dafe then sorry.
 

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