finepix F10

[ericsoon72]

Some quirks with the F10 that I hope they fix in a firmware patch.

1) On auto mode the iso is not auto, it is fixed at what you set. You must set ISO to auto manually.

2) The normal slowest shutter speed of 3 secs for the camera can only be achieved in night mode. On all other modes it is only 1/4 secs. This is a problem if you want to take a macro longer than 1/4 secs because on night mode you cannot take macro.

3) To take shutter speeds longer than 3 secs you must go thru 2 levels on menu options.

4) The LCD is always on when you connect the camera to the PC for transferring pictures. I dont know why it even needs to be on. A few times I have left it on for 30+ mins.

Hope this doesnt deter ppl from buying the camera, I've had great fun using it for the last 2 weeks. Its the best digicam currently for taking low light shots and the battery just keeps going and going.

reno77.....for ur point 2, i've found a similar thread in dpreview forum

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=12881892

 

[Drudkh]

Hi guys,

Drudkh, excuse me if I missed a post. Did you buy the F10 :dunno:

If you have, how do you like it ?
I have this camera in at work (SELL SELL SELL) and am interested in feedback about it.

So far I have not had much time to play with it.

I have taken note of views by reno77 and am interested to hear others pro's and con's.

Thanks for any replies guys.

Cheers.

yeah, dude i did. great cam! i like the ISO1600. but focusing in low light kinda though.
The batt life is increadible!

 

[Drudkh]

2) The normal slowest shutter speed of 3 secs for the camera can only be achieved in night mode. On all other modes it is only 1/4 secs. This is a problem if you want to take a macro longer than 1/4 secs because on night mode you cannot take macro.

I have taken 15 seconds shot at night before, but the bad thing is that the aperture is not adjustable (if possible then i have no idea how).

Switch to SP, go to menu and select Night mode. Go to setup menu and enable Long Exposure.
Press the left arrow on the directional pad to enter Exposure time adjustment.
Press Up & Down on directional pad to adjust exposure time.

 

[nova_nebula]

I just got this F10 too. Still learning the menu and stuff.

 

[Drudkh]

Bored in office today, test out the shallow DOF in macro.

 

[Pablo]

Hi Drudkh,

I must say those macro shots are impressive.

The F10 definately seems to be a very good camera; Good ISO and good macro.

Thanks for sharing.

Cheers

 

[kahheng]

Hi Drudkh,

I must say those macro shots are impressive.

The F10 definately seems to be a very good camera; Good ISO and good macro.

Thanks for sharing.

Cheers

It's excellent to see Fuji breaking new ground in the consumer camera game. It's high time they did that after many seasons of just so-so products. It's terrific to finally see usable high ISO on a consumer camera, starting with the F810/E550. It's quite a competitive advantage for them. Don't you just wish they stopped using xD cards though.

Fuji and Panasonic are the two brands that seem to be conjuring up the more interesting cameras at the moment.

 

[Pablo]

Hi kahheng,
I agree fully with your words.

My carry around camera is the F810. I really like it also. It is a shame the macro isn't a bit better though.

As for the XD cards... it would be nice if they simply dropped the price to a more reasonable price.
Say, the same as the SD cards.
I might be wrong but I think it is a matter of copywrite.... if so.... SAD !!!
better still, STUPID I think !!!

If they were to drop the price of XD cards, both Fuji and Olympus would sell more cameras.

Oh yes, how is this for a Derrrr idea, Kodak use the XD card in their LS755 camera.

What moron decided to do that !!!

Cheers

 

[reno77]

Here's some esplande shots I took with the F10 today http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=126817. Should be good for comparisions since its been posted a 1000 times

 

[reno77]

Yo guys I came across this in depth review of the F10, complete with Imatest results

http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/Fujifilm-FinePix-F10-Digital-Camera-Review-.htm

Surprisingly I came across it while searching for fx7 reviews.

" Conclusion: Digital camera manufacturers have tried for years to combine high-quality images and a compact camera body....

The Fujifilm FinePix F10 is the most successful fusion of the two that we’ve come by.The Fujifilm F10 produced the highest percentage of resolution from a compact camera we’ve tested to date, recording 5.47 of its advertised 6.3 megapixels (90%). It also produced an overall manual ISO noise score to rival that of high-end, thousand-dollar DSLRs (obviously, without the dynamic range).... "

 

[chenchengcai]

Wow! that's cool

anyway, i got it for its versatile iso,
and not to be stuck with iso100 for most compact cams.

 

[flyaway7]

thanks for the link to the review, haven't been able to find any good reviews on f10 before this.. i thought this camera is very good for amateur photographers like me, taking pictures only once in a while during trips and such.. but it seems very few people know of the existence of it.. should be getting it during the pc show in june, hope the price drop further then..

some qns.. how long is the warranty for it? is servicing for fujifilm cameras costly? mind sharing more pics taken from it? thanks

 

[Pablo]

Hi reno77,

Thank you for your posting of pic's taken with the Fuji F10 !

Definately a good camera to have.


Cheers

 

[grantyale]

My 2 cents.
The ISO 1600 looks like a PUSHED ISO 800, meaning, it's an 1-stop-under-exposed ISO 800 gained up digitally.
Also note that according to side-by-side shots on a Japanese site, ISO 800 on F10 is slightly slower than ISO 400 on Canon G3, and its ISO 1600 is about 0.6EV faster than G3's ISO 400. Given the Max aperture range of F10's F/3.5-5.0 vs. G3's F/2.0-3.0 - which is one and half stops faster, I'd say the overall usability in low light is somewhat similar.
Of course F10 has much better battery life and fits in a smaller pouch, at half the price of a G3(or a G6 of the class for that matter as it's been discontinued)...the point I'm trying to make is that it's nice to have relatively clean ISO 1600 on a digital compact, but it's not so much a leap in terms of low light usability especially if AF is not very responsive.

 

[chenchengcai]

My 2 cents.
The ISO 1600 looks like a PUSHED ISO 800, meaning, it's an 1-stop-under-exposed ISO 800 gained up digitally.
Also note that according to side-by-side shots on a Japanese site, ISO 800 on F10 is slightly slower than ISO 400 on Canon G3, and its ISO 1600 is about 0.6EV faster than G3's ISO 400. Given the Max aperture range of F10's F/3.5-5.0 vs. G3's F/2.0-3.0 - which is one and half stops faster, I'd say the overall usability in low light is somewhat similar.
Of course F10 has much better battery life and fits in a smaller pouch, at half the price of a G3(or a G6 of the class for that matter as it's been discontinued)...the point I'm trying to make is that it's nice to have relatively clean ISO 1600 on a digital compact, but it's not so much a leap in terms of low light usability especially if AF is not very responsive.

can you share the japanese website on the comparison?
many pple will be interested to view it...
(correction: the max aperture is f2.8-f5.0 not f3.5-f5.0...)

i also agree that iso1600 is a digitally pushed iso800.
so the highest i will set is iso800.

i'm not sure about the AF speed, its seems quite ok for me.
hunting under low light is normal for compacts.
only heard nikon 7900 has very fast AF for a compact.

clearly the adv of F10 is the RGB noise - it is pretty low for iso400.

 

[yowch]

My 2 cents.
The ISO 1600 looks like a PUSHED ISO 800, meaning, it's an 1-stop-under-exposed ISO 800 gained up digitally.
Also note that according to side-by-side shots on a Japanese site, ISO 800 on F10 is slightly slower than ISO 400 on Canon G3, and its ISO 1600 is about 0.6EV faster than G3's ISO 400. Given the Max aperture range of F10's F/3.5-5.0 vs. G3's F/2.0-3.0 - which is one and half stops faster, I'd say the overall usability in low light is somewhat similar.
Of course F10 has much better battery life and fits in a smaller pouch, at half the price of a G3(or a G6 of the class for that matter as it's been discontinued)...the point I'm trying to make is that it's nice to have relatively clean ISO 1600 on a digital compact, but it's not so much a leap in terms of low light usability especially if AF is not very responsive.

But comparing apple-to-apple, similarly priced G3 and S602zoom, of the same generation and about the same cost (actually the G3 is 10% more costly) the images from the S602zoom looks MUCH better than that from the G3, especially at ISO400. Many Canon supporters have argued this point with me, and those with the G2/G3 have actually showed me their prints, but when the prints from the S602 is shown to them, quietness follows. This said, the F10 is about as good as the older S602 (which is costlier and bulkier to house the better lens and CCD). You should expect good results from the F10.

 

[reno77]

thanks for the link to the review, haven't been able to find any good reviews on f10 before this.. i thought this camera is very good for amateur photographers like me, taking pictures only once in a while during trips and such.. but it seems very few people know of the existence of it.. should be getting it during the pc show in june, hope the price drop further then..

some qns.. how long is the warranty for it? is servicing for fujifilm cameras costly? mind sharing more pics taken from it? thanks

Hello, I think the warranty is the standard 1 year warranty, gotta go and check my receipt. I got somemore pics taken with my F10 over at

http://reno77.multiply.com/photos

The Pulau Ubin, Serangoon Road and HSBC Treetop walk pics were taken with a film SLR, the rest are with the F10.

 

[grantyale]

can you share the japanese website on the comparison?
only heard nikon 7900 has very fast AF for a compact.
clearly the adv of F10 is the RGB noise - it is pretty low for iso400.

Agree with the low color noise statement. Actually it's also the case with nikon 7900, panasonic FZ5 and such...somebody has to catch up in PnS and prosumer range.

From DPReview's 7900 report, its AF is SLOW under low light, and the figures under normal lighting is not impressive as well.


yowch -

602z...it's a nice camera but let's not compare it to G2/G3 and such as each has its own strength and weakness and they are phasing out anyway. :sweatsm: Note there's still a whole stop of ISO mismatch here, so ISO 400 to 400 isn't directly comaprable.

This is the discussion on DPREVIEW:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=13249509
The Japanese Page:
http://ogre.c.fiw-web.net/review/f10/iso.html


A question:
Is it possible to lock the aperture wide open with F10? I don't see aperture priority mode here...

 

[ParkertR]

wahhh!! looks like i might wanna check it out too looks very very very gooooooD@!!!

 

[stann]

A question:
Is it possible to lock the aperture wide open with F10? I don't see aperture priority mode here...

Nope. No aperture priority mode. Its a point and shoot.