E-330, E-410 or E-510

[cjtune]

Hi

Can someone explain what is LV mode B?

Thanks

LV mode B is the primary image sensor itself recording the scene real-time for output to the LCD display. LV mode A (for the E-330) is through a secondary image sensor (reused an old P&S model's CCD) that takes part of the light that's going to the optical viewfinder.
For the E-330, LV mode B must involve the mirror moving out of the way of the main imager to get the live view. When the shutter release button is pressed, the mirror has to come down again divert the light from the main image sensor to the exposure and autofocus meter and then back up again for the main image sensor to capture the image. Hence the long time lag time when taking shots in LV mode B on the E-330 (almost 1 sec!).

 

[cichlid]

LV mode B is the primary image sensor itself recording the scene real-time for output to the LCD display. LV mode A (for the E-330) is through a secondary image sensor (reused an old P&S model's CCD) that takes part of the light that's going to the optical viewfinder.
For the E-330, LV mode B must involve the mirror moving out of the way of the main imager to get the live view. When the shutter release button is pressed, the mirror has to come down again divert the light from the main image sensor to the exposure and autofocus meter and then back up again for the main image sensor to capture the image. Hence the long time lag time when taking shots in LV mode B on the E-330 (almost 1 sec!).

oohhh, quite chim ah...thanks

 

[NMSS_2]

510 seem to be out in some part of the world...... so where are ours? :dunno:

 

[dorts]

510 seem to be out in some part of the world...... so where are ours? :dunno:

Travelling to our part of the world. LOL.

 

[cjtune]

Travelling to out part of the world. LOL.

Or maybe a marketing strategy for it to not compete with the E-410's sales so soon. But that's a weird strategy.

 

[OlyFlyer]

Come on guys, a few hours left until 1st of June. Soon you can start rushing to the shops to get the E-510. Anyway, Oly says June, does not say 1st of June, so you may need 30 days more waiting. :sweat:

 

[avo]

Come on guys, a few hours left until 1st of June. Soon you can start rushing to the shops to get the E-510. Anyway, Oly says June, does not say 1st of June, so you may need 30 days more waiting. :sweat:

Any sighting of the E-510 at the PC Show?

 

[SleepingIdol]

Just wonder why Olympus wouldn't create a vertical grip for their models....unlike other brands which have vertical grip even for entry level models....
Vertical grip will also makes them looks professional...
Anyone can comment abt it...

 

[Blu-By-U]

just speculating here...They forgot...so not possible to add since the camera is already out in the market. To have a recall just to add the grip...:embrass:

 

[cjtune]

Just wonder why Olympus wouldn't create a vertical grip for their models....unlike other brands which have vertical grip even for entry level models....
Vertical grip will also makes them looks professional...
Anyone can comment abt it...

Probably wants to be in-line with their strategy of keeping things compact and small? New CEO or director of marketing or whatever wants to revive that old OM fame?

 

[bousozoku]

A battery holder/grip is expensive to design, especially when the target audience probably won't buy it because of the extra weight or price. It's much easier, lighter, and cheaper to keep a couple of extra batteries in your kit.

 

[OlyFlyer]

Just wonder why Olympus wouldn't create a vertical grip for their models....unlike other brands which have vertical grip even for entry level models....
Vertical grip will also makes them looks professional...
Anyone can comment abt it...

Let me see, entry level camera buyers will never need a tetered shutter trigger, IR remote is enough. Did you know that? So Olympus excluded that from the E-330 and 500 and only support IR remote. What a stupid idea. What happened? Probably far too many sent in complaints when just like myself, discovered the lack of most basic way of shutter release used on a tripod the hard way. I know, it is my fault that I was stupid enough to assume things but why leave out such a basic and simple thing? The E-300 had it, but stupidly, only through an expensive battery grip. What a bright idea? Isn't it?

They probably also say the same about the grip. The E-300 had it, the E-330 to E-510 don't. This time, I tend to agree because it adds to the weight and the price. I think the majority of people are not prepared to pay for the grip, it is both cheaper and easier to carry extra battery if needed. But, with a smarter design the same grip the E-1 uses could have been made useful on E-330, E-500 and E-510 so that buyers could have a choise, even if functionality would be reduced with those models compared to E-1. Just like the motor/winder for the OM cameras, an old one from the end of 1970's (Winder 1) could be used on every OM body as far as I know.

I just think Olympus had a more system wide thinking before than today. Good thing is that still all the lenses are usable on all the E-system cameras. Hopefully even in the future.

 

[drakon09]

Just wonder why Olympus wouldn't create a vertical grip for their models....unlike other brands which have vertical grip even for entry level models....
Vertical grip will also makes them looks professional...
Anyone can comment abt it...

Providing a grip for either the 410 or 510 WILL cannibalize sales of the E-3, and as Flyer said, the majority of amateur photographers will not require "pro" features.

 

[OlyFlyer]

Providing a grip for either the 410 or 510 WILL cannibalize sales of the E-3, and as Flyer said, the majority of amateur photographers will not require "pro" features.

Yes, but maybe I was not clear enough, I still think it is a mistake not to have the option. I have never been a photo pro but one of the first extra gears I bought for my OM-10 which I only had for a few months before moving to OM-2n was the Winder 2. I kept the winder until last year and used frequently.

I think with a more system wide thinking it would be an easy match to satisfy both those who want it and those who don't. I also doubt that a pro who otherwise would be satisfied with the E-510 buys the E-x just based on the fact that the E-510 does not have a grip. I think there will be other, more important points to think about too. I also doubt that an amateur would pay the extra the E-x will cost just to get a grip or a more "pro look", unless the amateur has the wallet that has no limit. I really hope Oly will have more in the E-x than E-510 + grip + weather sealings.

 

[cjtune]

Providing a grip for either the 410 or 510 WILL cannibalize sales of the E-3, and as Flyer said, the majority of amateur photographers will not require "pro" features.

But wouldn't sales of battery grips offset the loss of sales of an E-3?
I think they'll gain from E-410, E-510 users who will never buy the E-3 anyway but will buy the battery grip. But only lose from the users that who would buy the E-3 but instead bought the battery grip along with the E-410, 510. Most likely the former group would be bigger as potential users who'd like the E-3 most likely might like it for other features such as bigger memory buffer, weather-seal, articulating LCD, more shortcut buttons and dials, etc. which the 410, 510 doesn't have.

 

[SleepingIdol]

Thanks guys for your comments....
But I feel if Oly wants to get capture more users, they should be doing something about having a wider range of accessories....
Anyway it seems E-510 does have the tetered remote which is good but having vertical grip will add more ooompph....

 

[OlyFlyer]

Thanks guys for your comments....
But I feel if Oly wants to get capture more users, they should be doing something about having a wider range of accessories....
Anyway it seems E-510 does have the tetered remote which is good but having vertical grip will add more ooompph....

Yes, I agree. But even if the E-X10 has the tetered remote, IMO, it is not a good solution to use the tiny, combined USB/Video/remote contact. I think the contacts will be demaged if the cable is inserted and removed often, like I would do if I had one. I think a simple, cheap 2.5mm round stereo contact would be a more roboust and stable solution than combining that Oly special connector into that too. But again, in that case people like me would then not buy Oly cable but would make one, so Oly would loose money on the cable but would win on popularity.

 

[drakon09]

But wouldn't sales of battery grips offset the loss of sales of an E-3?
I think they'll gain from E-410, E-510 users who will never buy the E-3 anyway but will buy the battery grip. But only lose from the users that who would buy the E-3 but instead bought the battery grip along with the E-410, 510. Most likely the former group would be bigger as potential users who'd like the E-3 most likely might like it for other features such as bigger memory buffer, weather-seal, articulating LCD, more shortcut buttons and dials, etc. which the 410, 510 doesn't have.

Well, they did that experiment with amateur bodies with the grip for the E-300.

It didn't sell well.

 

[cjtune]

Well, they did that experiment with amateur bodies with the grip for the E-300.

It didn't sell well.

Maybe because the E-300 didn't sell well in the first place?

 

[schon]

Maybe because the E-300 didn't sell well in the first place?

yup that's right. the E-300 wasn't very popular to begin with. the E510 would be a much stronger contender.

together with a battery grip... yummy.