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KagetsukiI hope you do not mind my taking liberties with your picture. There is not that much that can be done about the expression - for the title it is fatally off. You need to have a crying unhappy look.
I see no point in trying to sex this up - a tighter crop redirects off the sexy angle - hopefully it makes sense of the missing foot.
I suppose now with the right expression maybe this can start to live to its potential. Patch work can only go so far.
Or grin like all good marketing people at Microsoft would tell you = change the title to sultry in the shadows or something to suite the facial expression. It is like the glass is half full or half empty thing.
I see no point in trying to sex this up - a tighter crop redirects off the sexy angle - hopefully it makes sense of the missing foot.
I suppose now with the right expression maybe this can start to live to its potential. Patch work can only go so far.
Or grin like all good marketing people at Microsoft would tell you = change the title to sultry in the shadows or something to suite the facial expression. It is like the glass is half full or half empty thing.
KagetsukiI hope you do not mind my taking liberties with your picture. There is not that much that can be done about the expression - for the title it is fatally off. You need to have a crying unhappy look.
I see no point in trying to sex this up - a tighter crop redirects off the sexy angle - hopefully it makes sense of the missing foot.
I suppose now with the right expression maybe this can start to live to its potential. Patch work can only go so far.
Or grin like all good marketing people at Microsoft would tell you = change the title to sultry in the shadows or something to suite the facial expression. It is like the glass is half full or half empty thing.
oh great, now you've totally amputated the foot off. plus my right elbow.
titles aside, I cld've simply placed a "." and made it work.
what determines your supposedly "right expression" and wad makes you assume the "sexing up " of this pic when you apparently have no idea upon the direction and execution of the photo itself?
and if I may say so, a crying unhappy face is so cliche. And i do mind when you have multilated my picture. I dun even know where to begin. the noise, the bad cloning, the lighting. wat the hell is this?
ellery, you don't know what the **** you're doing or talking about!
Whatever you have done, I don't think it works. And honestly, I have never made such a comment before, but this is my work, and I didn't feel like I gave any permissions to people to try to 'fix' my model's expression or darken a good deal of her face away. Myself aside, I feel it's extremely rude to my model.
>My apologies for doing before asking. Looking at this on the home system, the attempt does look very bad. I will delete the file after this post.
It is a matter of opinion on whether this works or not. Based on the tittle, I felt the facial expression & composition does not work.Alone without that tittle, the strengths woud carry the weakness. I do not see any reason for the orginal amputation of your foot and toes of the other foot. A crop was attempted in that direction (ie cropping of body parts to see if it could "rationalised"). Personally I do not favour cropping off body part unless there is a dam good reason which I did not see in the original.
<P>There is however an air/emotion to the picture that attracts the eye - this is what I take as the potential. I liked this enough to try to see if an alternative could do any thing for it - it appears that my office monitor is really on its last legs- the artifcates did not show up on it or after on explorer after upload or I would have aborted it. I agree that the artifcates on it make it look terrible. My bad there.
I also wondered about showing soooo much thigh in what I would consider as in an unfavourable light to you ie makes it look meaty and plump ; I assumed it was an attempt at sexing up the image. So a crop and darken was attempted to hide this.
It would be gracious of you if you could explain how the title goes with the picture. I am trying to see this picture from your (and zemotion's too) view point.
Krashnburn
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i don't understand the need for all this talk of a tighter crop.
the feet is not totally cut off, thus having a sense of continuation off the framing.
which is totally fine since it's not being cropped off at the ankle joint which will be very wrong and would absolutely look like it's amputated.
unless of course. like mentioned, mr deadpoet could show me and everyone here some way of cropping the photo without making it seem destroyed. but from the looks of it. i don't think he's going to entertain me or anyone of you.
on another note.
although i could not see ellery's attempt.
but from the description given by kagetsuki of his attempt.
cutting off the feet and elbow does not give room for the eyes to roam.
such a tight cropping just makes the photo look extremely cramped. too much information in too small a space.
i personnally think the cropping is ideal for this angle.
although if i were to be extremely nitpicky and absolutely HAVE to find something to complain about, i would have attempted the same pose at a slightly different angle. although it might not make too much of a difference since it's just a different manner of approach.
the feet is not totally cut off, thus having a sense of continuation off the framing.
which is totally fine since it's not being cropped off at the ankle joint which will be very wrong and would absolutely look like it's amputated.
unless of course. like mentioned, mr deadpoet could show me and everyone here some way of cropping the photo without making it seem destroyed. but from the looks of it. i don't think he's going to entertain me or anyone of you.
on another note.
although i could not see ellery's attempt.
but from the description given by kagetsuki of his attempt.
cutting off the feet and elbow does not give room for the eyes to roam.
such a tight cropping just makes the photo look extremely cramped. too much information in too small a space.
i personnally think the cropping is ideal for this angle.
although if i were to be extremely nitpicky and absolutely HAVE to find something to complain about, i would have attempted the same pose at a slightly different angle. although it might not make too much of a difference since it's just a different manner of approach.
Krashnburn
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another thing to add.
i also don't think theres a real need for the title to be directly related to the model or his/her expression.
since,
i could have a theme titled "motion" and have my subject model keeping still but having motion blurs created by movement of other peopl around the model.(quoting a work in progress here by me.)
it is arguable that the model is not moving and thus the photo does not match the title.
BUT it is unarguable that in a photo, a model or a subject is not the only element that gives meaning to a photo.
it(the model/subject) may be the main element but it does not mean anything if the meaning that the photographer is trying to convey is only using the model as part of his/her storytelling via the lens.
in this case, the story/the feeling is the crux, and not the model.
i also don't think theres a real need for the title to be directly related to the model or his/her expression.
since,
i could have a theme titled "motion" and have my subject model keeping still but having motion blurs created by movement of other peopl around the model.(quoting a work in progress here by me.)
it is arguable that the model is not moving and thus the photo does not match the title.
BUT it is unarguable that in a photo, a model or a subject is not the only element that gives meaning to a photo.
it(the model/subject) may be the main element but it does not mean anything if the meaning that the photographer is trying to convey is only using the model as part of his/her storytelling via the lens.
in this case, the story/the feeling is the crux, and not the model.
This image has achieved its goal .... it brought "Distraught" to the model, the photographers and the viewers ..... :bsmilie:
The Model and Photographer have explicitly mentioned that they DO NOT WANT anyone to DI their image ..... come on guys, stay off.:sweat:
It was a good effort, keep it up girls..:thumbsup:
The Model and Photographer have explicitly mentioned that they DO NOT WANT anyone to DI their image ..... come on guys, stay off.:sweat:
It was a good effort, keep it up girls..:thumbsup:
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