D90 User Group (V)

[daredevil123]

If you think D90 is cooler than D80, you should know that using the same image setting...D7000 maybe even cooler! But that's just software processing suppose... Oh yeah, I'm a happy D90 user alright.

Actually D80 (like the D200, D60, D40x, D3000) uses a CCD sensor instead of a CMOS sensor. Even though it is noiser than the newer CMOS sensors, the colors are just excellent compared to the newer CMOS sensors.

 

[daredevil123]

Hey was wonder if anyone tried to fix a 2x or 1.5x teleconverter onto a 50mm f/1.8 lens?
What would be the result???

As I don't think I can afford a 85mm f/1.8

An AF-D (kenko) TC will already cost you around 200-300+. Add a 1.4x TC, your focal length becomes 70mm, but your aperture will also not stay at F1.8 but will becomes F2.8. If you use a 2x TC, Focal length will become 100mm, but aperture will become f3.5. And I did not start talking about the drop in IQ.

A used 85/1.8 will cost you around $430-450 btw.

 

[Hitokiri84]

Thanks guys for the info and advices. Helps a lot for the thinking process
Hmmm but what if I get a sigma lens??? Or Tamron?

 

[ZerocoolAstra]

Thanks guys for the info and advices. Helps a lot for the thinking process
Hmmm but what if I get a sigma lens??? Or Tamron?

I think neither Tamron nor Sigma makes an 85mm f/1.8 lens. Sigma has an f/1.4 one, which costs a lot more than the Nikon 85/1.8

I could be wrong though...

 

[kriegsketten]

I think neither Tamron nor Sigma makes an 85mm f/1.8 lens. Sigma has an f/1.4 one, which costs a lot more than the Nikon 85/1.8

I could be wrong though...

Me and Akerue were testing the Sigma's piece last year. IIRC, the street price was 1.5 / 1.6K back then... So, you're talking about 3 times more than the Nikkor 1.8! But what do you expect? It's 1.4 worth more glass surface than 1.8 leh.... :bsmilie:

But Nikkor 85/1.8 can cost about 400 +/- 50 at the BnS right? Why not consider that? - refering to TS of course.

 

[kriegsketten]

Actually D80 (like the D200, D60, D40x, D3000) uses a CCD sensor instead of a CMOS sensor. Even though it is noiser than the newer CMOS sensors, the colors are just excellent compared to the newer CMOS sensors.

Good to know! Also, given that the latest models have a larger MP CMOS, something's going to give in terms of colour saturations. This has lead me to believe D7000 straight out of cam shots will be slightly duller (cooler) than D90... I've tried it during Ganbatte shoots (everything set to Standard - centralised settings), was a bit not used to the colours given that I'm so used to D90 colours... :bsmilie:

 

[kriegsketten]

But for the record, if a D7K lands in my hands, I'd still grab it - there something sinister about having a 100% VF, dual mem cards, 6400 usable ISO, and higher (eh-hem) FPS!... :bsmilie: For the moment, D90 serves me fine...

 

[petetherock]

Good to know! Also, given that the latest models have a larger MP CMOS, something's going to give in terms of colour saturations. This has lead me to believe D7000 straight out of cam shots will be slightly duller (cooler) than D90... I've tried it during Ganbatte shoots (everything set to Standard - centralised settings), was a bit not used to the colours given that I'm so used to D90 colours... :bsmilie:

This is interesting, do we know any other links to this?

That newer Nikons have a cooler color scheme and is less saturated?
Cheers.

Edit:
found something on this: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D90/D90IMAGING.HTM

 

[daredevil123]

I think neither Tamron nor Sigma makes an 85mm f/1.8 lens. Sigma has an f/1.4 one, which costs a lot more than the Nikon 85/1.8

I could be wrong though...

Sigma 85/1.4 SHIOK!!!!

 

[daredevil123]

Good to know! Also, given that the latest models have a larger MP CMOS, something's going to give in terms of colour saturations. This has lead me to believe D7000 straight out of cam shots will be slightly duller (cooler) than D90... I've tried it during Ganbatte shoots (everything set to Standard - centralised settings), was a bit not used to the colours given that I'm so used to D90 colours... :bsmilie:

MP is not what caused the decrease in color saturation. CCD sensors are known to be better than CMOS in color rendition.

 

[kriegsketten]

MP is not what caused the decrease in color saturation. CCD sensors are known to be better than CMOS in color rendition.

Okay, noted. Thanks!

This is interesting, do we know any other links to this?

That newer Nikons have a cooler color scheme and is less saturated?
Cheers.

Edit:
found something on this: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D90/D90IMAGING.HTM

There is no way I can confirm this. It could just be software processing of the images in different bodies that's causing the differences. Please don't take my word for it. No way of knowing unless we take comprehensive tests on both bodies in the same given situation - using just RAW images and not jpegs.

 

[mik3bernabe]

I'm even thinking of upgrading to D7K, but then i saw this group, makes me feel comfortable that my D90 still the best! Throwing to trash the idea of upgrading since i've already have what i need.. Newbie here! Hello everyone! Cheers!

 

[shutter-matrix]

Ive'd read from page 1 to here, now I love my D90 even more =). Thanks to you guys!

 

[KYFoong]

(1) Nothing is wrong with the D90 if you are thinking about the $.
(2) Everything is wrong with it and changing/upgrading is the best solution if you have the extra $$.

I happen to fall under (1), so I will shot with my D90 for now. Keep shooting!! My son told me that he is very happy with his D40 for the same reason (1). Hehehehe. This is only lame joke?

 

[tangerine]

Hi, I want to seek opinion of Seniors out there on usable ISO range for D90. Sometimes when I take evening shots or sports shots, I will crank up the ISO to 1600 only, cos I find that going up to the H range will give a lot of noise. Though D90 can go up to 6400 ISO, is that pushing it too far for the D90 sensor to handle?

 

[kriegsketten]

Hi, I want to seek opinion of Seniors out there on usable ISO range for D90. Sometimes when I take evening shots or sports shots, I will crank up the ISO to 1600 only, cos I find that going up to the H range will give a lot of noise. Though D90 can go up to 6400 ISO, is that pushing it too far for the D90 sensor to handle?

The best that D90 can do is 3200 even though that will come with substantial amount of noise, beyond that I'd consider pretty much horrific in terms of clarity and much chroma-noise is injected. Most important is not to loose the details. Eg, if you shoot in door sports (sometimes lighting not so good), try zooming in to see if you loose facial details at 3200... If yes, then best to avoid using that level, if not continue shooting... If the faces are large enough (fill up much of the frame), 3200 can be more than acceptable at times. But if the faces do not fill up the frames much and you need to crop - most likely facial details will be lost.

That is why, and exactly why I've reached my limits with D90. D7000 will perform better in this aspect as its native high ISO is up to 6400 - if you shoot at 3200, the details will still be there. Much as why you would stop at 1600 for D90 (half of 3200).

 

[tangerine]

I get it now.... thanks!

 

[KYFoong]

On a serious note. the D7K is indeed a very good camera, an upgrade from the D90. I truly wish for one (this is true). From what I have seen from my friend's D7K high ISO performance, I drool. There should be no regrets to get this great D7K,

 

[tangerine]

On a serious note. the D7K is indeed a very good camera, an upgrade from the D90. I truly wish for one (this is true). From what I have seen from my friend's D7K high ISO performance, I drool. There should be no regrets to get this great D7K,

I happen to fall under (1) as well... ha-ha ..... so make do, make do.
In any case, I think D90 is still a good camera to brush up on photography skills first. Got no skills, get a Porsche also no use... only kena laugh at for having good equipment, but lousy skills.
Also, I read other threads that NSC technicians say D90 is one of the more stable body they have come across.... so less ISO performance, but less equipment headache is a fair trade-off.

 

[Nubzz]

I happen to fall under (1) as well... ha-ha ..... so make do, make do.
In any case, I think D90 is still a good camera to brush up on photography skills first. Got no skills, get a Porsche also no use... only kena laugh at for having good equipment, but lousy skills.
Also, I read other threads that NSC technicians say D90 is one of the more stable body they have come across.... so less ISO performance, but less equipment headache is a fair trade-off.

The cost difference is not that soo high if u sold the D90 and bought a d7k. The 1st DSLR i touched was a D90. But I loved the 39 focus points on the D7k.