D7000 Discussion Thread II

[k2entity]

try slower speed if u really want to dig them out...lol.

Sorry for the misunderstanding but I was not testing for hot pixels and have no intention of doing so.

The problem is more common than most people thought. Like I said before. It is a common problem

I'm not denying that it's a common problem, just highlighting an alternative explanation for what others are seeing. Although that does not mean that Nikon can ignore the issue.

I suppose QC would also play a part but if the median filter was really removed in the D7000, then it will cause a further increase in the no. of hot pixels seen as well.

 

[Daoyin]

I am wondering y so many people trying to poke at the settings that I am using but not really the camera problem.

Iso sensitivity available for some reason.
As for stepping down iso, increasing shutter, I might be capturing more things that I dun prefer in a scene. Eg. I would like to burst the lamppost on the street to star without star filter, but at the same time I need it to be done before the traffic light turn green and the traffic start flowing and causes trails on the photo.
Lower iso might be able to produce the stair within the timeframe I want, but lower iso might not be able to pick up lights to fill up some of the dark area like higher iso can get.
Tons of reason that I need the high iso due to I like to shoot at night.

Wah, this is really complicated stuff. I cannot even begin to understand this. AND what has "stair" got to do with it?

 

[Taurean]

I Suggest you guy do not buy this useless camera at this moment. Wait for Nikon to solve the problem (It take numbers of week or number of mth) 1st before your guy buy the super useless camera :sweat:

:bsmilie:

Relax ya, some hot pixels don't render the camera useless, just enjoy it in the mean time.

Mine also have hot pixels, sent to NSC for checks and was informed that I had to wait for the solution. I have no issues with that as long as I know that Nikon acknowledge this problem and working to solve it.

From what I encounter, the hot pixels will not surface if I use it for normal day to day shooting. It only surface if I shooting video clips / using live view for an extended period of time (which I seldom do it).

 

[jackychua]

Wah, this is really complicated stuff. I cannot even begin to understand this. AND what has "stair" got to do with it?

It is a spelling mistake. "star" not "stair".

I agree that this is a common issue, only if pixel remapping can cover it. But it is not.

 

[ultrazoom]

Isn't that street price?

No, that's RRP.

Street price would be those you get at ~$2,000 from shops.

 

[jackychua]

I think some of the people just trying to pick or trying to "educate" people that this is common issue.
But how many of u actually own the d7k and gone through NSC to reconfirm that this is an issue that persist and can't solve by pixel remapping method?

For those who own d7k and know the issue, they actually voiced out here or exchange pm with other owners.
I am getting lazy to answer dump doubts question about the existence of this issue.

So.. For those potential buyers, if u feel like it is not a problem.. Go and buy it, it might be a very good camera for u under your usage.
For the owners, if u can't see hot pixel, dun dig it out. The camera should be able to serve u well.
For the owners who can see this as an issue, NSC, get other model,wait or switch camp are the options.

For all the others.. Enjoy adding oil and fire or doubts over here, watch the show.

Personally, I hope Nikon can resolve this fast and keep the rest of the people updated.
So far, I did say that NSC is quite good after you jump over the frontdesk support?

 

[ultrazoom]

Mine also have hot pixels, sent to NSC for checks and was informed that I had to wait for the solution. I have no issues with that as long as I know that Nikon acknowledge this problem and working to solve it.

I wonder if I should send mine to NSC just to log as an issue and wait for their solution. At least it's only been purchased for less than 2 weeks.

Nikon did not issue any advisory, and doubt they would provide me with an exchange (when necessary) if I bring in only 2-3 months later should they have a solution yet still not acceptable.

 

[jackychua]

I wonder if I should send mine to NSC just to log as an issue and wait for their solution. At least it's only been purchased for less than 2 weeks.

Nikon did not issue any advisory, and doubt they would provide me with an exchange (when necessary) if I bring in only 2-3 months later should they have a solution yet still not acceptable.

Please send in. Helping yourself and all the other owners.
The supervisor said they dont care how long you hold the camera, as long as it is not abuse and falling out of acceptable threshold, you are entitled for an exchange.

currently, only few things that might help on pushing nikon to fix this:
1) crowd of d7k owners at their service center
2) potential buyer holding from purchasing it from the stores.
3) customer awareness of the issue

 

[ziggurat]

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That is a **** offer.
How come cleaning kit can remove hot pixels. Also they give cloth pouch.
Don't be fool!. That Nikon eat D7K themselves.
My body just sent Nikon yesterday. They will send it back to me this afternoon.
Just did some adjestiment on focusing. but they leave hot pixels there and ask me wait for further information. and said they have not solution now.:angry::angry::angry:
Damn it!

 

[jackychua]

Sorry for the misunderstanding but I was not testing for hot pixels and have no intention of doing so.



I'm not denying that it's a common problem, just highlighting an alternative explanation for what others are seeing. Although that does not mean that Nikon can ignore the issue.

I suppose QC would also play a part but if the median filter was really removed in the D7000, then it will cause a further increase in the no. of hot pixels seen as well.

i think th median filter is in place. from the photo that I took, most of bright hot pixels patch are consisting of more then 2/3 hot pixel, which I think median filter failed to cover those "chained hot pixels", just like how pixel remapping failed.

so far, I cant see any "single hot pixel" by close inspectation. most of them on d7000k are a chain of more then 3 hot pixels that is obvious enough to distract without the need to zoom.

it is just my personal analysis though..

 

[LBL2009]

This is suppose to be a hot camera.

The thread started with excitement and anticipation.

Now it becomes a forum of hot pixels with unhappy early adopters sharing their bad experience. :think:

 

[ziggurat]

Tue afternoon I called up Mr Freddy Choo (Nikon NSC) again as he had agreed to exchange the camera (D7K) for me by this week. However, I ready need the camera for my appointment on this Wed and Thur, therefore I requested him to assist to get my camera change by Wed.

At 1st he asked me to wait and he tried to call his sale dept, later he informed me that he is unable to change the camera for me as ALL THE NEW STOCKS in their office are suffering hot pixel on still /video image and remapping the hot pixel might not able to remove it. I MUST WAIT TILL NIKON SOLVE THE PIXEL PROBLEM and it might take numbers of week or longer. What a joke. Now, my camera is sleeping inside the box and I must wait until their problem solve. Now I had spend more then $2K for this useless camera is just for waiting (Few weeks till few mths)?


I have been using Nikon camera for almost twenty years and I cant understand why new camera during purchasing got faulty and we cant exchange or refund.


BTW, I had writes in to Consumer Association of Singapore (CASE) and now waiting from their reply.

I Suggest you guy do not buy this useless camera at this moment. Wait for Nikon to solve the problem (It take numbers of week or number of mth) 1st before your guy buy the super useless camera :sweat:

Wasting time and money:thumbsd:
Oh. You should be a loyalty Nikon fans.
I have been using Nikon for just ten years.
so this is the reason why they refused to exchange another set at the beginning.
That is the difference of ten years? haha.
Do not buy it now.
I also request to exchange the camera from D7k to D300s and he checked and claimed that is not a problem, but I need to call the South Asia Computer Ltd and look for Ms Wu (Supervisor) as their Nikon sale dept had contact her and she will assist me. :thumbsup: After all, I called the South Asia and Ms Wu confirmed that she had received the call from Nikon (sale). But she was unable to exchange the D7k to D300s as well refund and she suggested me to call Nikon to solve the problem.:thumbsd:

 

[jackychua]

Wasting time and money:thumbsd:
Oh. You should be a loyalty Nikon fans.
I have been using Nikon for just ten years.
so this is the reason why they refused to exchange another set at the beginning.
That is the difference of ten years? haha.
Do not buy it now.
I also request to exchange the camera from D7k to D300s and he checked and claimed that is not a problem, but I need to call the South Asia Computer Ltd and look for Ms Wu (Supervisor) as their Nikon sale dept had contact her and she will assist me. :thumbsup: After all, I called the South Asia and Ms Wu confirmed that she had received the call from Nikon (sale). But she was unable to exchange the D7k to D300s as well refund and she suggested me to call Nikon to solve the problem.:thumbsd:

changing to d300s is popping up in my mind too. So, finally your exchange is not successful?

sad. really a waste of money and time. i took cab, and timeoff to go NSC.

 

[Daoyin]

This is suppose to be a hot camera.

The thread started with excitement and anticipation.

Now it becomes a forum of hot pixels with unhappy early adopters sharing their bad experience. :think:

Hot pixels make for a hot camera mah. Remember two swallows do not make for a long summer.

 

[night86mare]

And lower iso, longer exposure can't really help. My current body can easily get bright hot pixel at iso1600 5s, but the same pixel will appear at lower iso800 8 sec exposure.
The long exp nr can't help.

U no need to zoom in the photo to see the hot pixels, but it is bright enough to attract u on the camera LCD itself.
If u zoom it, gosh... Easily 100 or 200 more hot pixel all over the places.

Normally, pixel remapping can help on hot pixel issue. But not for the case of d7k. So it is confirmed that this is a quality and major issue.

can you explain what you are shooting to use the unique setting of iso1600, f/22, 5 seconds?

 

[Daoyin]

can you explain what you are shooting to use the unique setting of iso1600, f/22, 5 seconds?

He gave the answer further down.

 

[night86mare]

He gave the answer further down.

it is a long thread, doesn't help that there are people spamming repeated cries of outrage like a broken record.

could you help him answer, since you have been in the know?

i am aware that iso1600 for longer exposures is used for star/astrophotography, where you don't want star movement, so you try to limit the exposure timing.

as far as i know, this is not possible in singapore, because of light pollution, so i'm wondering if our dear member takes long treks in china or the himalayas to actually warrant the use of such obscure, rarely used settings.

 

[116520]

Mine has one, just one, green dot at the lower left corner of the screen when LV is on. After reading what bros have gone thru @ NSC, I don't bother to send it down to get it fixed... photo quality not affected, no green dot appears on pictures... haven't really use it for video yet... only video my kids with my S95... lets see what nikon can do to fix the hot pixel....

 

[jackychua]

can you explain what you are shooting to use the unique setting of iso1600, f/22, 5 seconds?

hi. I explained above. I want to capture the scene within a timeframe with the need of the sensitive iso and to catch up the gradient light effect at the darker area over the frame.

 

[night86mare]

hi. I explained above. I want to capture the scene within a timeframe with the need of the sensitive iso and to catch up the gradient light effect at the darker area over the frame.

within a timeframe - why?

gradient light effect, not sure what you're talking about.... but i'm sure f/22 is not needed.

could you just... use plain, simple english to describe what was in your frame?