D600 Full Frame announced! (not official yet)
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kriegsketten
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Speaking of primes...
Recently I had a play with the demo sets at CS's 10th anniv... I was particularly interested in the 85mm/1.8G :
wide open... sorry if the image a tad soft... a bit hasty, I shot it under the 1/focal length rule... (1/60s)
With primes like this, how difficult is it to switch to Fx? 85mm/1.8G is just a bit larger than the 50mm/1.8G... not even considered heavy for both lenses... Great for travel, I'd say!
Recently I had a play with the demo sets at CS's 10th anniv... I was particularly interested in the 85mm/1.8G :
wide open... sorry if the image a tad soft... a bit hasty, I shot it under the 1/focal length rule... (1/60s)
With primes like this, how difficult is it to switch to Fx? 85mm/1.8G is just a bit larger than the 50mm/1.8G... not even considered heavy for both lenses... Great for travel, I'd say!
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rain5533
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Cheesecake said:
Yes to be compare from both of CF & SD.
The price in CF of extreme pro @ 16Gb only u can get.
If the SD extreme pro u pay the price can be get the 32Gb already.
For me the 2 of performance in SD 95mb/s will be slightly faster than the 90mb/s in CF card reading time.
kwanhan
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personally, nikon's strategy makes a lot of sense... it is targeted at people who are upgrading from dx to fx, hence the price point... most of this market might not have a large supply of af-d lenses and as mentioned, the af-s refresh is already underway although it seems slow
although i must admit that the idea of a consumer grade FX (in terms of build and features) is quite strange and unusual.
is the current predicted price above the d7000? the lack of motor makes me sad.
to think i was just about to consider buying the 180 2.8 af-d ... for future use on the entry level FX.
didn't expect it to be so entry level... had hoped for something like a d300 kind of build. i think some of us are quite particular on grip and ergonomics. but i guess they want to attract those looking for something light. (it's like the whining that canon people had when the sturdy 50D body gave way to plasticky 60D body)
this move probably will further immortalize the d700 as a classic.
and the nikon nomenclature is a mess now haha.
sigh.
although i must admit that the idea of a consumer grade FX (in terms of build and features) is quite strange and unusual.
is the current predicted price above the d7000? the lack of motor makes me sad.
to think i was just about to consider buying the 180 2.8 af-d ... for future use on the entry level FX.
didn't expect it to be so entry level... had hoped for something like a d300 kind of build. i think some of us are quite particular on grip and ergonomics. but i guess they want to attract those looking for something light. (it's like the whining that canon people had when the sturdy 50D body gave way to plasticky 60D body)
this move probably will further immortalize the d700 as a classic.
and the nikon nomenclature is a mess now haha.
sigh.
kwanhan
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that's what makes me sad haha...
will we never get something like a d700 ever again?
nothing to be of the same class as 5dmiii?
kriegsketten
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It is due to not setting the shutter speed right (a bit slow)... It shouldn't be due to OoF.
I'll get 2 D3200 than the D800.
kriegsketten
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Don't think D600 specs are meant the replace the D700 (other than MP)... what's left is the FPS spec (see how that turns up). That's why the D600 nonclementure... I'd hazard a guess that it might not be a MIJ model (maybe China, since the source of rumour came from there). As for full-alloy body... questionable given the price (at best D7K type body). Even so, the plasticky built of D90 is more solid and rugged than competition's, so I can't see why D600 is built the same way... Remember, some peeps have been yearning for light-weightness. Even half-alloy body like D7K is past that point...
Mostly likely a true D700 replacement might still come... D700s?? LOL
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kriegsketten
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Should increase the ISO for shutter speed at 1/80 and above
*cough cough cough* your image is even SOFTER than mine... LOL
1/80s is not even enough! 85mm leh... should be ABOVE 85mm... 1/100s more suitable...
No worries... It was set on auto ISO mode... I just forgot to push the shutter speed higher!
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kwanhan
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one can only hope.
you think that there is a market for the true d700 replacement?
if so, that would mean 4 FX models, D600, D700 replacement, D800, D4
kriegsketten
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If Nikon's mindset is to eventually phase out the Dx range (slowly)... it might happen...
Imagine... Thailand/China factories cover the lower Fx range (higher and broader user base)... Japan factories handle the Fx higher range (lower user base)... Supply issues might have more or less ironed out...
kwanhan
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true true... this would give the competition something to deal with... a full frame line up.
as people have astutely noted... the d800 IS the best DX camera right now.
i was just thinking that they could market the d600 as both DX and FX (given the higher MP now.. which previously you couldn't because on the d700 and d3 dx crop meant 5mp)
would dx mode on a 24mp fx sensor mean 12mp?
anyway i confess. i'm here speculating because i have no time to shoot. :bsmilie:
whose signature was it that says "just shuddup and shoot"?
kriegsketten
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The release of D3200 is a good case that points out that the specs of Dx would more or less out phase some of the Fx range in times to come...
Given the possibilities of various crop modes in Fx bodies, wouldn't it make more sense to go all out of Fx?...
The question of thicker DoF for macro users currently enjoying Dx bodies.... Can't that be solved by a longer and lighter FL? Not necessary must be all out f2.8 right? f/4 and f/5.6 might even work, given the better performance of ISOs...
D600 replacement might be even more light-weight!
Given the possibilities of various crop modes in Fx bodies, wouldn't it make more sense to go all out of Fx?...
The question of thicker DoF for macro users currently enjoying Dx bodies.... Can't that be solved by a longer and lighter FL? Not necessary must be all out f2.8 right? f/4 and f/5.6 might even work, given the better performance of ISOs...
D600 replacement might be even more light-weight!
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The 85mm f1.8G is practically on my D90 all the time.. It is one value for $$ lens.
rain5533
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Looks like dunno is the right for the D800 or not?
But in future sure Nikon will have entry FX body.
DSLR line up :
DX..
D3200 entry level in budget
D5100 mid range entry level
D7000 in mid pro level for DX
D400 in future for Pro in DX body
FX..
D600 for entry level
D700 discontinued
D800 for products in mid range in pro.
D4 for speed in high end.
But in future sure Nikon will have entry FX body.
DSLR line up :
DX..
D3200 entry level in budget
D5100 mid range entry level
D7000 in mid pro level for DX
D400 in future for Pro in DX body
FX..
D600 for entry level
D700 discontinued
D800 for products in mid range in pro.
D4 for speed in high end.
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