D600 Do You Have Spot/Oil Issue?

[ageha]

Unless Nikon DSLR to be using EVF

lol, the SD1 has an OVF and not an EVF.

Hmm.. okay.. but I guess there must be some concerns that's why it wasn't really implemented with other brands?

Other brands? Nikon uses it as well.

 

[rain5533]

lol, the SD1 has an OVF and not an EVF.

You mean the design just like Xpro1

 

[ageha]

You mean the design just like Xpro1

Seriously, do you even know the SD1? The SD1 is a classical DSLR with pentaprism OVF.

 

[rain5533]

Seriously, do you even know the SD1? The SD1 is a classical DSLR with pentaprism OVF.

Oops sorry I though is the compact camera.
But does't using mirror and how to viewing?

 

[ageha]

Oops sorry I though is the compact camera.
But does't using mirror and how to viewing?

Of course it uses a mirror! I expected you to know what a SLR is...

 

[rain5533]

Of course it uses a mirror! I expected you to know what a SLR is...

SLR I got ah.., Nikon FE same got mirror.

If you wanna to be improved like added dust proof layer should be not as good and reduce the capture image quality.

One more thing the dust, no matter how you sealed the dust still able to go in and very difficult to remove like lens internal optical of group.

 

[ageha]

SLR I got ah.., Nikon FE same got mirror.

If you wanna to be improved like added dust proof layer should be not as good and reduce the capture image quality.

Mate, I think you need to do a bit more research. A dust shield doesn't degrade the IQ, J1 and V1 have exactly the same IQ and only one of them has a dust shield. Just look at the output of Sigma's SD1. Sigma isn't in the market position to jeopardize their Foveon X3 reputation.

 

[avsquare]

Other brands? Nikon uses it as well.

I mean for DSLRs, since we are talking about D600 here.

I believe that the SD1 design has been around for some time isn't it?

 

[rain5533]

Mate, I think you need to do a bit more research.

Sorry I didn't know about sigma brand DSLR

 

[ageha]

I mean for DSLRs, since we are talking about D600 here.

I believe that the SD1 design has been around for some time isn't it?

Yes and the SD series is a DSLR and uses a protective glass shield as well, it's essentially the same technology. Even the old SD14 from 2006 used a dust shield already and so did the SD15.

 

[avsquare]

Yes and the SD series is a DSLR and uses a protective glass shield as well, it's essentially the same technology. Even the old SD14 from 2006 used a dust shield already and so did the SD15.

So I'm guessing, maybe there's some concerns or flaws with such designs such that other brands like Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Sony, Samsung etc did not implement on their DSLR.

Unless this design is patented - if it's truly good, I guess it's a why not? Just like the idea if weather seal using rubber gaskets, it would have been widely accepted. Probably there may be design concerns, cost concerns or even IQ concerns. IDK, I'm not an engineer. :bsmilie:

 

[ageha]

So I'm guessing, maybe there's some concerns or flaws with such designs such that other brands like Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Sony, Samsung etc did not implement on their DSLR.

Unless this design is patented - if it's truly good, I guess it's a why not? Just like the idea if weather seal using rubber gaskets, it would have been widely accepted. Probably there may be design concerns, cost concerns or even IQ concerns. IDK, I'm not an engineer. :bsmilie:

The main concern might be the dust shield gets dirty easier because it's closer to the mount so it's more likely to touch it by accident. Of course it's also easier to clean and in case it get's really dirty or damaged it is also cheaper to replace than the sensor package.

Another reason might be pure physiological. The idea having a sheet of glass permanently in the light path might turn some Nikon fans off, no matter if it affects the IQ or not. Nikon might not want to risk that even if they know it doesn't affect the IQ.

As I said before, the differences between the J1 and V1 show that it doesn't degrade the IQ.

 

[wolfton]

So far this seems a well controlled issue locally.

I have used the camera quite extensively the past few weeks and so far no issue on the oil splash. Do have dust, but it's easily taken care of by the blower

 

[lovebean120]

Tend to jump ship from canon and buy a D600.. I know it is a fantastic camera..
But is really freak me out when I google for the Oil and dust spot on Nikon camera.
and it seem like not only on the D600, is also occur on camera like D7k, D800 and even D3S..
Is it so common on nikon camera?

 

[rain5533]

Tend to jump ship from canon and buy a D600.. I know it is a fantastic camera..
But is really freak me out when I google for the Oil and dust spot on Nikon camera.
and it seem like not only on the D600, is also occur on camera like D7k, D800 and even D3S..
Is it so common on nikon camera?

Brother don't worry too much on the dust/oil spot, even got dust spot also consider stick on the sensor surface, even you're using air blower to be pull some air into sensor, the dust still remain on sensor. So you may clean it by brush or lenspen or send to NSC.

I don't think canon sensor no dust or oil spots at all

 

[rhino123]

I don't think canon sensor no dust or oil spots at all

Actually I am thinking of jump ship from Canon to Nikon too... and if that happen, D600 will be the first Nikon cam I will get... but the oil splash issue really stay my hand, and until that issue is solved I will not jump in.

(Oh... btw, having used Canon extensively for the past 2 years, I dare say that Canon's camera do not have oil splash issue (at least mine didn't and I didn't hear any issues from many of my friends too) and I owned and used 1000D, 40D and 7D, and I have experience with 550D, 600D, 60D and 5DmkII... so far none show any oil splash issue... dust issue - yes, and I think that is normal.)

 

[lovebean120]

Brother don't worry too much on the dust/oil spot, even got dust spot also consider stick on the sensor surface, even you're using air blower to be pull some air into sensor, the dust still remain on sensor. So you may clean it by brush or lenspen or send to NSC.

I don't think canon sensor no dust or oil spots at all

What I worry is, i need to go down to NSC very often.. this is really bad..

Actually I am thinking of jump ship from Canon to Nikon too... and if that happen, D600 will be the first Nikon cam I will get... but the oil splash issue really stay my hand, and until that issue is solved I will not jump in.

(Oh... btw, having used Canon extensively for the past 2 years, I dare say that Canon's camera do not have oil splash issue (at least mine didn't and I didn't hear any issues from many of my friends too) and I owned and used 1000D, 40D and 7D, and I have experience with 550D, 600D, 60D and 5DmkII... so far none show any oil splash issue... dust issue - yes, and I think that is normal.)

Agree with you.. been using canon cam for quite some time.. never meet such problem too.. Hope 5dm3 price will go down.. haha

 

[Electrocam]

What I worry is, i need to go down to NSC very often.. this is really bad..

I will have to make my 3rd trip, every week have to go down to clean the sensor. Hope the oil will dry up after this clean.

 

[koppite]

Bro is yours confirmed oil and not dust? Care to show some photos for awareness purpose? I guess some of us don't really know how oil spots look like compared to dust spots.

Did NSC charge you for it?

 

[Raptor1]

Today I went to Nikon Service center and send in my 3 days old D600 with oil spot issues and spot on viewfinder issue.

They cleaned the sensor for me, however refuse to clean my viewfinder without charging