giantcanopy
Senior Member
Seconded! We are posting under Canon Equipment Discussion
( I am secretly in love with alot of other lenses, just dun let my wife know about it .. )
Ryan
Club $1 - on Canon Equipment.
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Seconded! We are posting under Canon Equipment Discussion
( I am secretly in love with alot of other lenses, just dun let my wife know about it .. )
Ryan
turtle-san
New Member
Someone who enjoys buying expensive gears and go around boasting - Gear Whore
Someone who enjoys criticising those who can afford better gears than them but still going slow on the learning curve - Green Monster
Someone who enjoys what he can afford and contented with what he is able to produce - I choose to stay here.
Someone who enjoys criticising those who can afford better gears than them but still going slow on the learning curve - Green Monster
Someone who enjoys what he can afford and contented with what he is able to produce - I choose to stay here.
turtle-san
New Member
Someone who enjoys buying expensive gears and go around boasting - Gear Whore
Someone who enjoys criticising those who can afford better gears than them but still going slow on the learning curve - Green Monster
Someone who enjoys what he can afford and contented with what he is able to produce - I choose to stay here.
I mean no offence but I feel kinda sad.
Looked through what you own, you pretty much explored what you can have at the top spectrum of Canon gear but the photos you take really mention otherwise.
Photos being taken at really surface level without much stuff (Sorry I'm not a very technical person so please pardon me with the lack of jargon) explored.
But you're right. Owning something good doesn't mean you have to squeeze every ounce out of it. I respect your take.
Anyways I hope I'm not making a nuisance in this thread! Please do give me a heads up if I am!
I mean no offence but I feel kinda sad.
Looked through what you own, you pretty much explored what you can have at the top spectrum of Canon gear but the photos you take really mention otherwise.
Photos being taken at really surface level without much stuff (Sorry I'm not a very technical person so please pardon me with the lack of jargon) explored.
But you're right. Owning something good doesn't mean you have to squeeze every ounce out of it. I respect your take.
Anyways I hope I'm not making a nuisance in this thread! Please do give me a heads up if I am!
No offense taken,
I'm just a casual hobbyist who uses my gears to shoot casually e.g. my gf, my family and my colleagues despite the huge arsenal I have. To me, there's no such thing as you have to utilize what you have before you upgrade cause there isn't a Utilization-Meter to show you how far you have utilized your stuff in %.
From what I had notice, there's a small bunch of people having inferiority complex and butt-hurt syndrome. To them, you MUST NOT upgrade or go for better gears especially you are newbie. Isn't that nonsense? For instance, do you need to learn how to use a PC using MS Dos and only upgrade to Win 7 just because you are still noob? Do you need to drive a toy car before you buy a new car just because you are still new? Do you need to shoot using antique cameras before going to higher end DSLR bodies just because you are newbie? Do you need to be Michael Shoemaker to drive a Ferrarri in Singapore? It all boils down to what you can afford as long you are comfortable with it doesn't that make sense?
I enjoy photography and I enjoy learning at my own pace.
turtle-san
New Member
No offense taken,
I'm just a casual hobbyist who uses my gears to shoot casually e.g. my gf, my family and my colleagues despite the huge arsenal I have. To me, there's no such thing as you have to utilize what you have before you upgrade cause there isn't a Utilization-Meter to show you how far you have utilized your stuff in %.
From what I had notice, there's a small bunch of people having inferiority complex and butt-hurt syndrome. To them, you MUST NOT upgrade or go for better gears especially you are newbie. Isn't that nonsense? For instance, do you need to learn how to use a PC using MS Dos and only upgrade to Win 7 just because you are still noob? Do you need to drive a toy car before you buy a new car just because you are still new? Do you need to shoot using antique cameras before going to higher end DSLR bodies just because you are newbie? Do you need to be Michael Shoemaker to drive a Ferrarri in Singapore? It all boils down to what you can afford as long you are comfortable with it doesn't that make sense?
I enjoy photography and I enjoy learning at my own pace.
Yup! I acknowledge the fact that one can be just collecting the equipment for more leisure pleasure.
I must say I also have a lot of itch to upgrade but I just ORDed LOL! Been buying and selling lenses to find out I actually still love my kit lens most. (Actually due to the fact I like the wide angle range and I use strobes pretty often so not much need for a fast lens though I'm planning to get a 50 1.4~ [I'm a nikon user actually HAHA]).
Glad that you're enjoying what you're doing!
Happy purchasing and happy shooting! 8D
ShaneKua
Senior Member
I do think alot of experienced CS-ers advise newbies not to be hasty in acquiring new gear, but not for the reasons you suggested above.
The idea is to let the newbie shoot long enough so that he will know what to spend his own $ that is most beneficial for his needs. Not that those senior members are being spoilsports.
Far too many aspiring photographer think that the lenses/gear alone make the image, where any veteran would tell you it’s a combination of many factors. That’s what they’re trying to tell those newcomers.
Some of them, after shooting for awhile realise they don’t need to spent that kind of $ to take the photos they wanted too. So those senior members you give flak for actually saved their $ for them.
I too was once new, and my hat is off to those senior members who were patient with my then over-enthuaism, and in the end help me realise what I needed was different from what i wanted. :thumbsup:
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Anson
Senior Member
Had often that some aspiring photographers turn a deaf ear when people advise them to shoot more instead of buy more.. :bsmilie:
To me the equipment is only as good as it's wielder....
Odyssey-Boy
Senior Member
I am easily contented, and somehow, when my friend boast about how good is his L lens are, I just got to agree with him.. End of the day, it's me myself who make decisions, not my peers, whether to hold my temptations is through myself. So, I will still buy 3rd party lens, as long as it suits what I need for the focal length, DOF, and built quality, that's it. Heck care the loud focusing... bla bla all sorts of personal paranoid caused by these equipments.
Just came back from Las Vegas 2 months ago, went up to Grand Canyon, and guess what most people are still using the 350D, 400D, all were very friendly, and when they saw my 550D, they were like "wow, your screen is so huge !".. The people there are so different, and much more humble than us...
Just came back from Las Vegas 2 months ago, went up to Grand Canyon, and guess what most people are still using the 350D, 400D, all were very friendly, and when they saw my 550D, they were like "wow, your screen is so huge !".. The people there are so different, and much more humble than us...
Jolex
Member
Ya.. I think it's about balancing between skill improvement and equipment upgrade.. Maybe something like there's not a need to buy a 7D first just to use it in auto mode right? Unless maybe $$ is not an issue.. 
On a separate note about why I used the 7D example is because I've seen that once in a restaurant, person on the next table whips out his camera from a Lowepro bag and after the AF beep, out pops the pop up flash and it stayed up.. Nothig wrong with that, maybe i'm shallow but I cannot help but have this "???" feeling.. I'm a noob too, so the thinking on my level is that he minus stops for the flash if not it's gonna wash out the photo right?
On a separate note about why I used the 7D example is because I've seen that once in a restaurant, person on the next table whips out his camera from a Lowepro bag and after the AF beep, out pops the pop up flash and it stayed up.. Nothig wrong with that, maybe i'm shallow but I cannot help but have this "???" feeling.. I'm a noob too, so the thinking on my level is that he minus stops for the flash if not it's gonna wash out the photo right?
Ya.. I think it's about balancing between skill improvement and equipment upgrade.. Maybe something like there's not a need to buy a 7D first just to use it in auto mode right? Unless maybe $$ is not an issue..
On a separate note about why I used the 7D example is because I've seen that once in a restaurant, person on the next table whips out his camera from a Lowepro bag and after the AF beep, out pops the pop up flash and it stayed up.. Nothig wrong with that, maybe i'm shallow but I cannot help but have this "???" feeling.. I'm a noob too, so the thinking on my level is that he minus stops for the flash if not it's gonna wash out the photo right?
I guess it's pretty subjective here. What if he's just a lucky chap who just received a 7D as his birthday gift and he just started photography for few days? You see, I don't condemn people who give fruitful advise to newbie about their next purchase and lens selection but the thing is, people often jump to the conclusion by looking at others gear and there goes the green monster effect.
There's nothing wrong to condemn someone who boast and flaunt his gears but shoot like crap for years but you are certainly making yourself ugly should you harp on a newbie who is lucky to start photography with good gears. Unfortunately not many are able to differentiate.
ShaneKua
Senior Member
vikingw2k said:There's nothing wrong to condemn someone who boast and flaunt his gears but shoot like crap for years but you are certainly making yourself ugly should you harp on a newbie who is lucky to start photography with good gears. Unfortunately not many are able to differentiate.
Yup, but the kind of newbie we see often in CS is not the lucky start ones(and we were certainly not talking about those) but those who are thinking the higher bodies bring alot more benefit than good photographic experience.
In others words we're talking about those with BBB. What the case of the 7D was cited was to show the results if the person succumbed to BBB, and not meant to be the exceptional "lucky start".
vikingw2k said:No offense taken,
I'm just a casual hobbyist who uses my gears to shoot casually e.g. my gf, my family and my colleagues despite the huge arsenal I have. To me, there's no such thing as you have to utilize what you have before you upgrade cause there isn't a Utilization-Meter to show you how far you have utilized your stuff in %.
From what I had notice, there's a small bunch of people having inferiority complex and butt-hurt syndrome. To them, you MUST NOT upgrade or go for better gears especially you are newbie. Isn't that nonsense? For instance, do you need to learn how to use a PC using MS Dos and only upgrade to Win 7 just because you are still noob? Do you need to drive a toy car before you buy a new car just because you are still new? Do you need to shoot using antique cameras before going to higher end DSLR bodies just because you are newbie? Do you need to be Michael Shoemaker to drive a Ferrarri in Singapore? It all boils down to what you can afford as long you are comfortable with it doesn't that make sense?
I enjoy photography and I enjoy learning at my own pace.
for those who can afford it, if they splurge on the expensive equipments, economies of scale will bring down the prices for everyone else
Even if they don't really know how to use their equipment well, it's their money after all... (the show-off factor may irritate me, but it helps to remind myself that I somehow indirectly benefit from them).
clioboy
New Member
u are just lucky to meet the nicer ones..:bsmilie:
Aiyah...
People who got money, let them buy equipment and talk about it loh. Some are just collectors. Some are collectors who are also good photographers. And there are some very good photographers who are also collectors. So, why get so bothered with what others do or say?
If you cannot afford, work with what you have. You can still make good pictures if you put your heart and mind to it.
What others do or say has no bearing on your own journey in photography.
People who got money, let them buy equipment and talk about it loh. Some are just collectors. Some are collectors who are also good photographers. And there are some very good photographers who are also collectors. So, why get so bothered with what others do or say?
If you cannot afford, work with what you have. You can still make good pictures if you put your heart and mind to it.
What others do or say has no bearing on your own journey in photography.
SamTac
Senior Member
As i notice, there are peoples love to go for the best even they known nothing yet.
They will tell themselves in future or one day I might need it.:dunno:
giantcanopy
Senior Member
daredevil123 said:
Yup exactly.
No point getting green eyed about what people have cause it is never ending in life
Ryan
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