I totally agree... the camera is just a tool, while the cameramen who uses the tool is the one that counts 
Canon 7D. Home run? Disappointment?
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fraven
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I totally agree... the camera is just a tool, while the cameramen who uses the tool is the one that counts
I agree mostly but sometimes new camera features allow the photographer the ability to take a certain type of photographs where the old camera could not do. For example with 7D servo AF and 8 fps, I am able to do BIF photos as compare to my older 30D. Here's the link to my recent BIF photos.
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=643032
AJGun
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was trying to be sarcastic, but you know that, right
i don't think the manufacturer will be stupid enough to create something cheaper with better quality/feature (most of the time). Otherwise, how can differentiate the products and make more $$$ from you
adorable
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my fren and I went to the airshow on Saturday and comparing our photos, I find that my 7D auto focus capture more photos sharp than his lower entry one (I wun say the brand and model as dun want to start a flame war)
both of us using auto focus, auto focus point selection and we just trigger happy.
his camera had a lot of out of focus and some time cannot focus fast enough.
both of us are new to our cameras which we got it few months ago, so equally new to our cam.
errrr 7D as compare to the lower range model, are suppoe to perform what it is suppose to perform.... so at least now you know you never kena shortchanged by them... :lovegrin:... if lower range model outperform your 7D..... then need to :mad2:
But ya, if I am starting new, 7D would be my consideration too, other than 5DMKII.... :lovegrin:
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lchoong78
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I'm doubt that you mentioned "500d is almost at par with the 7d IQ when using the same lens". We need to have lot of comparation before come out the final conclusion, i.e. ISO, low light situation, etc.
Since you have 500D and 7D, may be you can have the comparation by using their respective high ISO (such as ISO1600/ 3200), you should know what is the difference between these 2 bodies.
Of Coz, I deeply agreed with you that the man behind the camera is playing an important role.
Not everyone can see and appreciate the difference in quality when comparing the 2 cameras.
Yeah, they both look the same but dun perform the same.
Is the Akira LCD TV the same performance as the Panasonic TV even they both look the same externally? Certainly not if you know how to appreciate.
7D output is clearly different (better) from the "smaller" and older bodies.
If you cant tell the improvements, skip it and save your money. You probably do not have enough skill to take advantage of the technologies anyway so why buy it - and waste it.
Yeah, they both look the same but dun perform the same.
Is the Akira LCD TV the same performance as the Panasonic TV even they both look the same externally? Certainly not if you know how to appreciate.
7D output is clearly different (better) from the "smaller" and older bodies.
If you cant tell the improvements, skip it and save your money. You probably do not have enough skill to take advantage of the technologies anyway so why buy it - and waste it.
nikolaiski
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I dropped by the Vivocity showroom to try it out...
Here's ISO1600:
100% crop at the focus area:
What impressed me most was this pic - taken with a 100mm macro and the high ISO NR set to OFF, there was amazing amounts of detail and lack of colour noise on black, for a 1.6x crop camera that is
this is the 100% crop:
What disappointed me though, was the AF - it just wasn't as fast as (believe it or not) my 30D right out of the box. Maybe user problem lah, but add this to the fact that it felt poorly built compared to the D300 (the shutter clicking sounded very hollow and it wasn't as solid to hold as the Nikon), and I'd save more and go for a 1DMkIIn or a 1DMkIII any day man. The high ISO sacrifice is worth the lack of build quality.
Well, that's just how i feel lah (i'm a 30D and 5D owner myself)
Here's ISO1600:
100% crop at the focus area:
What impressed me most was this pic - taken with a 100mm macro and the high ISO NR set to OFF, there was amazing amounts of detail and lack of colour noise on black, for a 1.6x crop camera that is
this is the 100% crop:
What disappointed me though, was the AF - it just wasn't as fast as (believe it or not) my 30D right out of the box. Maybe user problem lah, but add this to the fact that it felt poorly built compared to the D300 (the shutter clicking sounded very hollow and it wasn't as solid to hold as the Nikon), and I'd save more and go for a 1DMkIIn or a 1DMkIII any day man. The high ISO sacrifice is worth the lack of build quality.
Well, that's just how i feel lah (i'm a 30D and 5D owner myself)
speedtest99
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anyone try the full HD video taken at night, it seems like i cannot set the ISO, at full HD, i can see the live view showing ISO3200, video shows very noisy on the sky, video jerky also, is it my setting?
I am surprised people judge built quality based on sound. :bsmilie:
I guess my colleague is right: appearance is everything. Does not matter if the product does not work properly or falls apart after some use (not implying anything here). Does not matter if something looks bad but is in fact a serious workhorse. As long as it looks good, or in this case, sounds good, that's all that matters. :bsmilie:
hobbit6003
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Yo fren,
How's your 2nd 7D?
So far, so good. Still waiting for the new HIS macro lens to come in so that I can subject the camera to more rigorous testing. :bsmilie:
speedtest99
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my setting was in AV mode before i turn the dial to movie, just read from online user guide that we can switch to manual, and adjust the iso, aperture and shutter speed. Maybe i should give it a try when i reach home, never know that video mode is dependent on our mode setting.
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nikolaiski
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wa lao..don't make me sound so superficial leh...lol..but what i meant to say was that i'm just spoiled for a 1D to the extent that i would take an 8.2mp 1DII over the 7D despite all the technological advances made, just for that solid build/feel at the end of the day.
How's the AF on the 7D though? Is it still out of focus with some AF points?
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i tried last night using video. Using the following setting on 50mm F1.8
Manual
F1.8
ISO 800
shutter speed 2"
not so noisy, but experience jerky video. Have not try shotting day video. anyone experience this and managed to solve the problem, anything to do with metering timer?
The new copy has been OK so far. But will only commit to a definite answer after some field experiences. That's what matters most, right? :bsmilie:
Hi guys,
I'm currently filming a documentary on Old Changi Hospital and our camera man is using the 7D to do it all. So far so good, the day shots turned out fantastic on it. We've done a night shoot there, and I haven't seen the video yet, but got pictures up on our blog: Haunted Changi, and I think they look great, though spooky -_-
Our camera man did almost 90% of the shoot, even at night, completely handheld, and the video (for the day, not sure about night yet) wasn't shaky at all. Maybe he has taichi training or something, super steady hands.
As an indie film maker, I love the 7D. It's affordable, it's easy to carry around, and the quality is impressive. No need to have so many people on set, no cable to trip over. The sound isn't fantastic though, so had to get a soundman as well.
One thing though; we can't seem to attach a monitor and still have the screen on the camera on, so both camera man and director can watch at the same time. Anyone can help?
I'm currently filming a documentary on Old Changi Hospital and our camera man is using the 7D to do it all. So far so good, the day shots turned out fantastic on it. We've done a night shoot there, and I haven't seen the video yet, but got pictures up on our blog: Haunted Changi, and I think they look great, though spooky -_-
Our camera man did almost 90% of the shoot, even at night, completely handheld, and the video (for the day, not sure about night yet) wasn't shaky at all. Maybe he has taichi training or something, super steady hands.
As an indie film maker, I love the 7D. It's affordable, it's easy to carry around, and the quality is impressive. No need to have so many people on set, no cable to trip over. The sound isn't fantastic though, so had to get a soundman as well.
One thing though; we can't seem to attach a monitor and still have the screen on the camera on, so both camera man and director can watch at the same time. Anyone can help?
raymondluo
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Hi guys,
I'm currently filming a documentary on Old Changi Hospital and our camera man is using the 7D to do it all. So far so good, the day shots turned out fantastic on it. We've done a night shoot there, and I haven't seen the video yet, but got pictures up on our blog: Haunted Changi, and I think they look great, though spooky -_-
Our camera man did almost 90% of the shoot, even at night, completely handheld, and the video (for the day, not sure about night yet) wasn't shaky at all. Maybe he has taichi training or something, super steady hands.
As an indie film maker, I love the 7D. It's affordable, it's easy to carry around, and the quality is impressive. No need to have so many people on set, no cable to trip over. The sound isn't fantastic though, so had to get a soundman as well.
One thing though; we can't seem to attach a monitor and still have the screen on the camera on, so both camera man and director can watch at the same time. Anyone can help?
Hi nanasee, interesting project you have going there! I too am looking to create a few indie films myself soon after my next 'HD-DSLR' purchase and it's nice to see peeps doing a great job with it already. :thumbsup:
Unfortunately if memory serves the screen on the camera cannot be turned back on once you have an external monitor up. I think you could get around that with two monitors, one attached to the camera itself the other for the director but that will cost you some. And since you did say the tai chi master worked with his bare hands you would have to get a support rig which will cost more.
I personally would prefer a to be a lil more el cheapo and live with a less efficient work flow. Looking forward to seeing the doc! Will it be off the net or in cinemas?
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Handyman17th
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It does'nt matter what camera are you using... It depends on who's behind the camera...
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