Canon 10D users: When are you guys gonna upgrade?

[bowwow]

Geez I never thought about that yet... How durable are canon's CMOS sensors anyway... not much news heard of D30s and D60s sensor wearing out yet...

and how much is it just to replace a sensor? i might have to strike toto first...

I dream of striking lottery... but its quite a demoralising dream i have... each time i buy it and each time my ticket fails me...

had my 10D for 2.5 yrs already. the CMOS has yet to be changed although the shutter has had to be changed twice already.

just FYI, the only time i had to replace a CMOS was for an Olympus 5050; a semi-prosumer 5.1MP digital camera, and that already cost almost S$300.00

 

[Snoweagle]

Actually u'll know when the shutter needs to be changed when yr pics comes out half exposed right?

 

[bowwow]

Actually u'll know when the shutter needs to be changed when yr pics comes out half exposed right?

actually when the shutter starts getting sticking and there's a noticable shutter lag. although it's like fractions of a second, if u shoot often enough to be really familiar with the equipment, u'll feel like something is not quite right.

 

[bowwow]

Actually u'll know when the shutter needs to be changed when yr pics comes out half exposed right?

by the time you get to this stage it'll be too late in my case already!

 

[Snoweagle]

by the time you get to this stage it'll be too late in my case already!

That's y sometimes gd to have a spare. My current spares are only the EOS 30 and Sony DSC-P8 PnS.

 

[bowwow]

That's y sometimes gd to have a spare. My current spares are only the EOS 30 and Sony DSC-P8 PnS.

actually, my 10D is now my spare.

and i still do use it when i think the 10D is more suited to the occasion than my main.

my EOS 30 is still going strong and still in use for personal projects.

 

[Snoweagle]

actually, my 10D is now my spare.

and i still do use it when i think the 10D is more suited to the occasion than my main.

my EOS 30 is still going strong and still in use for personal projects.

I don't fancy 30D though, unless they've re-designed the built and quieten the mirror slap.

 

[EOS10D]

i have been told at Canon service that they sold
10D twice as many as the combined 20D/30D .....

replacement parts for 10D should be more readily available
and perhaps have long run than those 2 models.
Canon have a habit of keeping parts for models that are
more popular ( not more recent )

 

[thw]

i have been told at Canon service that they sold
10D twice as many as the combined 20D/30D .....

I am really surprised 'cos there's absolutely no reason to stay with the 10D especially with its slow performance and terrible AF. Of course, when it comes to money, things are different.... :bsmilie: :bsmilie:

 

[Snoweagle]

i have been told at Canon service that they sold
10D twice as many as the combined 20D/30D .....

replacement parts for 10D should be more readily available
and perhaps have long run than those 2 models.
Canon have a habit of keeping parts for models that are
more popular ( not more recent )

Then i've hope for my 10D's shutter and parts in future servicing. ;p

 

[Snoweagle]

I am really surprised 'cos there's absolutely no reason to stay with the 10D especially with its slow performance and terrible AF. Of course, when it comes to money, things are different.... :bsmilie: :bsmilie:

Slow performance and terrible AF?? Performance is gd and AF is gd even in total darkness.

 

[bangkuangz]

by the time you get to this stage it'll be too late in my case already!

Hmm actually this is an interesting question. I have not change the shutter in my 10D yet (and I've been using it for more than 3 years). Is there any scientific way or guideline to know whether the shutter need replacement before it is too late?

 

[Garion]

Slow performance and terrible AF?? Hahaha...have u used it before? Performance is gd and AF is gd even in total darkness.

For everyday, "normal" use (e,g streets, portraits, AD, landscapes etc) its almost perfect...but for more demanding photographic applications like sports and wildlife is where its performance falls short....and thats where the 20D/30D makes up for it...faster startup, more responsive and faster AF (although still nowhere near 1 series standard), higher fps, bigger buffer etc.

I am not criticizing 10D, I used to own one for about 2 years before I moved up to 20D, and it was a real workhorse of a camera, solid and reliable and seldom let me down. :thumbsup: I find it still an excellent camera to use, especially for newcomers to DSLR, they would prolly be better served with a good condition 2nd hand 10D than a new 350D/400D, the build and form factor is much better.

 

[CYRN]

For everyday, "normal" use (e,g streets, portraits, AD, landscapes etc) its almost perfect...but for more demanding photographic applications like sports and wildlife is where its performance falls short....and thats where the 20D/30D makes up for it...faster startup, more responsive and faster AF (although still nowhere near 1 series standard), higher fps, bigger buffer etc.

I am not criticizing 10D, I used to own one for about 2 years before I moved up to 20D, and it was a real workhorse of a camera, solid and reliable and seldom let me down. :thumbsup: I find it still an excellent camera to use, especially for newcomers to DSLR, they would prolly be better served with a good condition 2nd hand 10D than a new 350D/400D, the build and form factor is much better.

You move from 10D to 20D??? :sticktong

10D AF is good enough to cover wildlife and sports.... unless you are a pro whom absolutely cannot miss any shots.

 

[Snoweagle]

For everyday, "normal" use (e,g streets, portraits, AD, landscapes etc) its almost perfect...but for more demanding photographic applications like sports and wildlife is where its performance falls short....and thats where the 20D/30D makes up for it...faster startup, more responsive and faster AF (although still nowhere near 1 series standard), higher fps, bigger buffer etc.

I am not criticizing 10D, I used to own one for about 2 years before I moved up to 20D, and it was a real workhorse of a camera, solid and reliable and seldom let me down. :thumbsup: I find it still an excellent camera to use, especially for newcomers to DSLR, they would prolly be better served with a good condition 2nd hand 10D than a new 350D/400D, the build and form factor is much better.

Wildlife is still ok. For sports or fast-action, might as well get 1D Mk IIn. Start up time is no big deal to me and AF speed is similar to both 20D and 30D IMO.

 

[bowwow]

I don't fancy 30D though, unless they've re-designed the built and quieten the mirror slap.

eerr..... not the 30D but i meant the EOS30, the film camera. u know, film.... silver emulsion sensitive to light.......

but i do agree with u about 30D's mirror slap being louder than the 10D although by not a lot.

 

[bowwow]

I am really surprised 'cos there's absolutely no reason to stay with the 10D especially with its slow performance and terrible AF. Of course, when it comes to money, things are different.... :bsmilie: :bsmilie:

trust me... there's still a number of pros who are still hanging on to their 10D. the only reason they finally upgrade is when the camera breaks down and the cost of repair may no longer be justified for it to be their main body.

actually, there are one or two who are still using the D30(not to be confused with the 30D) to shoot.

 

[bowwow]

Hmm actually this is an interesting question. I have not change the shutter in my 10D yet (and I've been using it for more than 3 years). Is there any scientific way or guideline to know whether the shutter need replacement before it is too late?

I wish i could give u a definite answer but i can't. i guess it all boils down to how much u shoot. i can't remember how many shots the 10D's shutter is rated at but there is a figure out there.

you may have been using it for 3 years but if you're a hobbyist who shoots during the weekends or occasionally then it shouldn't be a problem.

shooting for assignments is different. the demands are much higher and maybe because of frequent usage of the camera i could tell that something was off when it came to the shutter.

what i would suggest to you is to send your camera in for periodic servicing. like all precision equipment, a proper servicing will keep your camera running better, longer.

 

[bangkuangz]

I wish i could give u a definite answer but i can't. i guess it all boils down to how much u shoot. i can't remember how many shots the 10D's shutter is rated at but there is a figure out there.

you may have been using it for 3 years but if you're a hobbyist who shoots during the weekends or occasionally then it shouldn't be a problem.

shooting for assignments is different. the demands are much higher and maybe because of frequent usage of the camera i could tell that something was off when it came to the shutter.

what i would suggest to you is to send your camera in for periodic servicing. like all precision equipment, a proper servicing will keep your camera running better, longer.

What would you consider as "general servicing"? Will they do calibration on the camera that may cause backfocusing or they will just clean the sensor, test the shutter, etc). I don't think my camera is back focus now (at least with the lenses that I have) and I am a bit worry that it will if they do some sort of calibration work when they service the camera. Last but not least, any clue on how much will that cost?

 

[Snoweagle]

eerr..... not the 30D but i meant the EOS30, the film camera. u know, film.... silver emulsion sensitive to light.......

but i do agree with u about 30D's mirror slap being louder than the 10D although by not a lot.

Haha okok...misread there.

Yah i still love my EOS 30 though ever since i've got my 10D, it's now been sitting in the dry cabinet untouched.

The EOS 30 is a great film SLR with semi-pro features.