Can E300 be "reset" its shutter count?

[Mikefellh]

Have you heard the Irishman's philosophy regarding Heaven and Hell?

It goes something like this:

There are only two things to worry about, either you are well or you are sick. If you are well, then there is nothing to worry about. But if you are sick, there are two things to worry about, either you will get well or you will die. If you get well, there is nothing to worry about. If you die, there are only two things to worry about. Either you will go to Heaven or to Hell. If you go to Heaven there is nothing to worry about. But if you go to Hell, you'll be so damn busy shaking hands with friends you won't have time to worry!

 

[Blu-By-U]

Like that saying.

My problem is the banding as mentioned long time ago. All the test were carried out were done with artificial lighting. And in my own mind, I thought it may be caused by the 50/60mhz of the electrical lights. But that changed when I shot in the day time without any artificial lights. and eek!!! the banding was there and very significant. Hence I decided to write to Olympus/Japan and the engineer wrote back asking to have the camera in for further test.

2nd problem was the 14-45 kit lens. Nothing like your problem Olyfyer. Mine I highlighted sometime ago that the extended lens moves. It's way too loose. The last time it was in, the service engineer cleaned up the grease and it was slightly better but it's back to the same again. Yes, I have the 14-54 now but then why not get it fixed since it's still under warranty.

3rd is the strip of rubber that's on the left side of the camera. It's loose again. I had it repaired once a month or so ago..but because I was using the camera a lot more during my 2 weeks of intensive classes, it came loose again. Maybe due to poor glue or ?? Now if it's poor glue, why only on the left? and it came loose from the bottom near the opening of the USB connection. I hardly ever used the USB. Anyone else having that problem or is it just me??

 

[holidaydom]

Hi Blu,

I personally can't comment on your banding issue as I almost never use my E500 past ISO 400 due to noise.

As for yor 14-45, I have had no such problems with mine but it seems to me like it one of your limit screws may not have been torqued properly (or it could have been over-tightened, stripping the threads on the plastic housing) - causing the play in the lens to get worse over time.

As for your rubber pad peeling away; do you have sweaty palms? Or if not, maybe the tech did not clean the surface properly before applying new adhesive to stick it back on.

For this issue I'd suggest you obtain an adhesive specially for silicone rubber and DIY. Silicone Rubber is notably difficult to stick and adhere to unless you use the correct type of adhesive.

Good luck~!! :thumbsup:

 

[Blu-By-U]

The banding issue is not found in the E-500 or even the E-300. Strangely it on only the E-330 but not it's other derivatives (Panasonic L1). Uncle Tomcat demonstrated that.

Sweaty palms...yes. But why on the side that I hardly hold? My palm is under the camera and over the lens. Shouldn't the right grip be loosen instead? :dunno:

Anyway, I have a couple of months more to the end of the warranty period, then if it comes loose again, I am on my own. Will super glue work in holding the rubber strip down?

Not sure about the lens but it was pretty loose when I got the camera. It got worst with use and the final straw was when I lost a whole lot of panoramas caused by it. Then after repair it was slightly better but not entirely like new. Now it's back to the self moving.

 

[artfakeme]

AF?? could it be the lens motor is dead? Have you tried with another lens? Try cleaning the lens contacts. maybe it's dirty.

He he,, should have read your post before sending in. Yup, it was a lens contact problem. They just wipe the body contact area ring and that solves the problem. Solve in mins. And also I ask them about the shutter life span for E300. They said no such count limit. The camera basically will die due to wear and tear. And when i ask if i can replace my shutter, they said E300 cannot be replace. Only E330 can.

 

[Blu-By-U]

How much did they charge you for the contact cleaning?

 

[OlyFlyer]

Have you heard the Irishman's philosophy regarding Heaven and Hell?

It goes something like this:

There are only two things to worry about, either you are well or you are sick. If you are well, then there is nothing to worry about. But if you are sick, there are two things to worry about, either you will get well or you will die. If you get well, there is nothing to worry about. If you die, there are only two things to worry about. Either you will go to Heaven or to Hell. If you go to Heaven there is nothing to worry about. But if you go to Hell, you'll be so damn busy shaking hands with friends you won't have time to worry!

:bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie:

So, is this Hell or Heaven? ...that's why we are gathered here, to shake hands? But so many of us are quite happy anyway and would gladly invest in even more Oly stuff. Are we all crazy or am I the only one? I was complaining about the E-500 from day one. My critical points are still valid but anyway, I still have the camera, and since day one I invested in quite a lot of Oly stuff, both old and new, expensive and cheap. Sold my old OM2n a few months back and bought two OM1 bodies plus a lot of other stuff. The last one is an Olympus original bellows which I got yesterday. It is a real beauty and will be my next DIY offer since I will modify that to work with my ED50mm f2.0 lens in full auto mode.

So, if this is Hell who needs Heaven? :dunno:

 

[OlyFlyer]

He he,, should have read your post before sending in. Yup, it was a lens contact problem. They just wipe the body contact area ring and that solves the problem. Solve in mins. And also I ask them about the shutter life span for E300. They said no such count limit. The camera basically will die due to wear and tear. And when i ask if i can replace my shutter, they said E300 cannot be replace. Only E330 can.

I am glad your camera is fixed and that it was so easy. Always better than having to turn it in. Unfurtunately the tech gave you some stupid answers.

There is always an expected life length for everything. That is calculated by every serious manufacturer of any gadget. In technical terms it is called MTBF (Mean Time Between Failure). That value is statistically calculated based on the construction, materials used and the expected type of use. If the value given is in time value, like years or hour than it is based on a calculated average use. If the number is an absolute count the value is calculated the same way but instead of saying MTBF = 8 years it can say MTBF = 50000 activations. That dos not say it will die after that value or time but it does say that used normally I would expect it not to fail before that, and it won't fail before that in most cases. Some manufacturers will not tell you that some will and som MUST tell you, like in aviation, because you'd expect parts to be replaced before failure, at least critical parts.

As for replacing the shutter, I think he was wrong in that too. As far as I know the E-330 and the E-300 has the same shutter, so if you can replace in E-330, why not E-300 also? Regardless of which, I would definitely expect a serious camera maker to have a solution for that problem. The repair shop you went to may not be able to replace the E-300 shutter but Olympus must be able to do that. After all, it is not disposable camera we bought, it must be repairable. If it is worth to do it or not is another thing.

 

[hammer_400]

I am glad your camera is fixed and that it was so easy. Always better than having to turn it in. Unfurtunately the tech gave you some stupid answers.

There is always an expected life length for everything. That is calculated by every serious manufacturer of any gadget. In technical terms it is called MTBF (Mean Time Between Failure). That value is statistically calculated based on the construction, materials used and the expected type of use. If the value given is in time value, like years or hour than it is based on a calculated average use. If the number is an absolute count the value is calculated the same way but instead of saying MTBF = 8 years it can say MTBF = 50000 activations. That dos not say it will die after that value or time but it does say that used normally I would expect it not to fail before that, and it won't fail before that in most cases. Some manufacturers will not tell you that some will and som MUST tell you, like in aviation, because you'd expect parts to be replaced before failure, at least critical parts.

As for replacing the shutter, I think he was wrong in that too. As far as I know the E-330 and the E-300 has the same shutter, so if you can replace in E-330, why not E-300 also? Regardless of which, I would definitely expect a serious camera maker to have a solution for that problem. The repair shop you went to may not be able to replace the E-300 shutter but Olympus must be able to do that. After all, it is not disposable camera we bought, it must be repairable. If it is worth to do it or not is another thing.

hahaha! yeah! I think Olyflyer is right on BOTH counts.

 

[Blu-By-U]

Not to worry too much. One of us will end up with a dead shutter than we can judge the life of the shutter..

 

[artfakeme]

How much did they charge you for the contact cleaning?

FOC

 

[Blu-By-U]

Lucky you. Over here they may charge you a service charge for off warranty camera.

 

[OlyFlyer]

Not to worry too much. One of us will end up with a dead shutter than we can judge the life of the shutter..

Yes, but if one of us ends up with a dead shutter that does not say MTBF = dead shutter count. Remember, MTBF is actually scientifically calculated. If my shutter dies it may have been killed by the way I use MY camera or coming from a bad batch, so that is not relevant.

 

[Blu-By-U]

Then we take a consensus on it. From that we can judge the shutter life.

 

[Mikefellh]

For those who didn't understand my posting of the Irishman's philosphy, here it is edited for photographers:

There are only two things to worry about, either your camera is well or it is sick. If it is well, then there is nothing to worry about. But if it is sick, there are two things to worry about, either you can fix it or it has to go in for repair. If you can fix it, there is nothing to worry about. If it has to go in for repair, there are only two things to worry about. Either it can get fixed, or you will have to get a new camera. If you can get it fixed there is nothing to worry about. But if you have to get a new camera, you'll be so damn busy playing with your new camera you won't have time to worry!

 

[drewdam]

For those who didn't understand my posting of the Irishman's philosphy, here it is edited for photographers:

There are only two things to worry about, either your camera is well or it is sick. If it is well, then there is nothing to worry about. But if it is sick, there are two things to worry about, either you can fix it or it has to go in for repair. If you can fix it, there is nothing to worry about. If it has to go in for repair, there are only two things to worry about. Either it can get fixed, or you will have to get a new camera. If you can get it fixed there is nothing to worry about. But if you have to get a new camera, you'll be so damn busy playing with your new camera you won't have time to worry!

ar....i see.. :bsmilie:

 

[Blu-By-U]

Mike...you sure on this part.."If you can get it fixed there is nothing to worry about" Think I would be worried when it would break down again!!!!

 

[cire07]

For those who didn't understand my posting of the Irishman's philosphy, here it is edited for photographers:

There are only two things to worry about, either your camera is well or it is sick. If it is well, then there is nothing to worry about. But if it is sick, there are two things to worry about, either you can fix it or it has to go in for repair. If you can fix it, there is nothing to worry about. If it has to go in for repair, there are only two things to worry about. Either it can get fixed, or you will have to get a new camera. If you can get it fixed there is nothing to worry about. But if you have to get a new camera, you'll be so damn busy playing with your new camera you won't have time to worry!

Hey Mike, nice analogy... :thumbsup:

 

[wind30]

And when i ask if i can replace my shutter, they said E300 cannot be replace. Only E330 can.

Another lie.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1022&thread=22005388

People overseas already discussing how many people have replaced their E300 shutter. sigh, here in singapore we are discussing whether we can replaced E300 shutter.

How can the oly singapore say such things?

 

[cire07]

perhaps it is a genuine mistake on the part of 1 of their tech staff...

But sad to say, everything and anything that any of the staff does will of course reflect upon the service centre as a whole...

1 week to CNY...

Gong Xi Fa Cai everyone!