Betrayed my A200 for a 1000D and I regret

[pinholecam]

Actually, this thread pops up as the most recent thread at a glance when ppl are at the main forum page. So ppl from other camps will come in and 'make noise' if they see their brand/model being 'bashed' in the thread title.
I also kapo come in, even though I don't use either brands mentioned.

TS, though I understand your pain, but a lot of it has to do with your poor research before jumping systems. A lot of your problems arise from poor usage and unrealistic expectations as well.

1. Poor AWB - though it has improved on all brands, there are still problems and it may never be so intelligent. Always check (at least for the 1st few shots) the review screen to make sure everything is as expected. There is no need to check every shot, but at least a few shots now and then will save you the pain. Even with a 5D mkII, if the user forgot and WB was set to Tungsten in a Daylight situation, its screwed as well.

2. Camera shake and shake reduction - This is no replacement for proper technique and expectations. Brace yourself and find support if you are w/o a tripod.

3. Prices of lenses - research properly. The Price Guides are right here in CS. Basing prices based on a 50/1.8 is a risky business.

 

[A Whale]

i thought of jumping ship to get a pentax k-x before, cos seriously the k-x is a great camera with a cheap price (street price $7XX!). However I have too many alpha mount lenses already so i stayed LOL.

We are in the same boat :bsmilie:

 

[Atarandas]

I'm a Sony A350 user for almost 2 years, and I'm quite happy with the JPEG output resulted from my camera. 80% shots in JPEG, and no need to do PP. Only for some occasion or events, I need to shoot in RAW, and do some processing in IDC when converting the RAW, like adjusting WB. So on my account, sony provide me the results what I want, straight from camera.
On another hand, a close friend of mine who shot in 450D, always force himself to shot in RAW, and do the PP job later. Dunno why he always do it, but he always stated, that PP is one essential part on photography job, no use I has DSLR if shooting in JPEG. Well, I only sense maybe we are too different and he always have a lot of free time to spend for PP.

I have been using Alpha350 for 1.5 year. Have always been shooting raw. Main reason being I want to retain the option to PP and keep as much picture information as possible.

Though I agree its quite tedious to do all the PP . But I think in a way , its satisfying and it also act as a post shooting review to review and critique your own photographs and realise the difference the image is when viewed on pc versus lcd. So I take it as a learning process

I guess for consumers that doesnt PP , then they will need to do thorough research for the one Camera that suits their purpose most

 

[kfchrispy]

I'm a Nikon user but when my friends ask about which entry level camera to buy, i'll say either Sony or Pentax.
Normally the reply i get back is, "huh, i thought Canon is better." haaa..
To each his own lah.

 

[Dslrman]

To TS: Just wanna give a little voice to the humble Canon 1000D (because this camera is currently my workhorse for most of my hobbyshoots ). IMHO although this camera in many's opinion, a lower end DSLR. But given with good lens (such as any prime lens) this camera can be the best value for money VS a decent quality image. Check out my flickr site (http://www.flickr.com/dslrman), almost all of my pictures are made from 1000D, as to me most shots turned out to be acceptable.

 

[tsan81]

Learn to use what you can afford and comfortable with.
You can always find cheaper 3rd party lens and also 2nd hand lens. You are not shooting to make a living, so dun need those high end glasses right?

You can always change system when you have $$$. You can even venture into more than 1 system. You are not stuck to a brand forever, so why regret?

If WB sucks, shoot in raw then correct WB.
If pic is noisy, use noise reduction tool.
People usually have to post process photos from dslrs, so start learning to do so too.

Regarding IS or VR or SSS - it also depend on your skills to get a supersteadyshot™ . there are always tripod or monopod, beanbags to help you. So practise more and regret less.

What you need to do now is to stop reading reviews on what other users say on camera and start practising. Continue with your 1000D first. If you really really really still don't fancy it, sony will still welcome you back.

 

[starlens]

is not a camera...is a person who holding the camera....

 

[Yinfinity]

They will never give you what you really want. Just be happy with what you have.

 

[niszaltimi]

hai im a alfa user.b4 i bought my dslr i was undecisive to purchase either canon,nikon or sony.survey for a month .but recomendation from camera shop n frend to purchase sony.at last have no regret with my choise.as what d experience say.which sony product is not good in d market from game,tv,comp,etc.

now using.a330,a350

 

[Lazymuf]

To TS...you wanna change how many time also is up to you...you choice you decide...most importantly is stay happy and shoot safely....steady bro

 

[JW73]

I personally think that the TS should learn the basic of photography and stop blaming A200 or 1000D.

If other people can shoot beautiful photos with either these 2 cams, then better step back and think again.

 

[siamak]

I personally think that the TS should learn the basic of photography and stop blaming A200 or 1000D.

If other people can shoot beautiful photos with either these 2 cams, then better step back and think again.

How do you know my level of knowledge? basic photography?

I do not do art. I am just interested in capturing images as perfect as possible.

 

[tehzeh]

Maybe we should stop assuming that TS doesn't really know the basics of Photography. If it's the person holding the camera, then why don't anyone use a CIF resolution camera, and show everyone else that It is the Photographer that matters.

Seriously, both the person and the camera are important. Yes, if the person doesn't know any thing about photography, then He would matter in this context. But if this person does know something about photography, then the camera matters now.

I guess non-IS lenses are not much usable for me (at least with lenses higher than F2.8).

Please look at the quote above. ^ TS does know that IS has got something to do with the shutter speed which can be compensated with a big aperture value. So please stop assuming that TS does not know any thing about Photography.

tyvm.

 

[bengchiat]

May I know why is it possible for this to become a flaming thread? I mean, this is the Sony/Konica-Minolta forum. :dunno:

so its ok if canon users condemn sony intheir subforum?

TS obviously is suffer from 'user fault'.

wonder if the IS on Sony's body good enough for one fourth second exposure.

:dunno:

 

[tanwn]

a true photographer will be able to handle either camera be it digital or film. I have seen professional images captured by A1000D. Don't blame the equipment, it's always the user first. If you want to capture the images as perfect as possible, do not just rely on the camera alone, you need to have a good understanding of the equipment and it's limitation and override its control.

 

[tehzeh]

so its ok if canon users condemn sony intheir subforum?

TS obviously is suffer from 'user fault'.

wonder if the IS on Sony's body good enough for one fourth second exposure.

:dunno:

There's nothing Sony users can do if Canon users want to do so. And there's nothing Canon users can do if Sony users want to do so, right?

about the 1/4 sec, the steadyshot can't manage that. (from my experience, although I am not experienced.)

LOL.

 

[bengchiat]

How do you know my level of knowledge? basic photography?

I do not do art. I am just interested in capturing images as perfect as possible.

2- IS cannot even come near to SSSS, at least the IS in EFS1855-IS: A few months ago in Singapore I took almost 500 night shots (no tripod, on hand) around the Singapore river and almost 350 were acceptable shots (with even 1/4 second). With IS I cannot even take good photos at 1/20s in the night (on hand). I have even observed shake in photos taken in the morning (ISO 100).

ur above statement more or less reflects ur level of knowledge.

based on dpreview,
ur canon received a Poor n 3 average for the WB,
where as ur ex sony received 2 poor n 2 average.

 

[siamak]

There's nothing Sony users can do if Canon users want to do so. And there's nothing Canon users can do if Sony users want to do so, right?

about the 1/4 sec, the steadyshot can't manage that. (from my experience, although I am not experienced.)

LOL.

Do you want me to show you successful shots with 1/2 second using SSSS? (on hand)

 

[bengchiat]

There's nothing Sony users can do if Canon users want to do so. And there's nothing Canon users can do if Sony users want to do so, right?

wrong.

we can be apathetic n let the TS get away thinking its cam's shortcoming,
or we can help him.

 

[bengchiat]

Do you want me to show you successful shots with 1/2 second using SSSS? (on hand)

first thing i see is terrible WB.

anyway,
i think i stick my head henceforth in canon, nikon, pentax,.... subforum
than in sand.