student said:I still use film, 90% of the time.
It is a lot cheaper to use film than digital.
Digital is only when I am not "serious" about what I am taking.
DT_ said:failling in...
i think the question should perharps be.. who knows how to use 35mm film instead?...
doug3fflux said:eh? what if you use slides? and film is only cheaper in the short-run. not long-run...no?
student said:1 I rarely use slides.
2 I use black & white films. I develop and print the images myself. So that saves a lot of labout costs
3 While digital allows me to take an almost infinite number of exposures, I do have to pay a certain "price"
What is this price?
The price of guaranteed obsolescence. Some of my film cameras are older than some CSers.
The price of unending hardware and software upgrade. It is a matter of time. One may be able to make great images with a Canon D30. But let a professional try to use this camera for his next wedding assignment, and see what happen? How old is the Canon D30? How about printers? The software I need for my B&W is in my head. MY B&W hardware will outlast me by a long margin.
The price of images becoming unusable years down the road, unless one engages in an unending changing of storage media. Any B&W negative made 20 years ago is immediately usable.
And more importantly.
The price of mental "slipshodness". Yes, it is not the problem of the equipment. Yes one can be very disciplined with a digital camera, etc. But the reality is that if one look at experiences of the average Joe, the fact that one can take and erase without any price, almost invariably results in a different way of making images.
And that, to me, is a very big price to pay!
edfck said:ok, let me re phase my question, does anyone still uses color 35mm film?
student said:1 I rarely use slides.
2 I use black & white films. I develop and print the images myself. So that saves a lot of labout costs
3 While digital allows me to take an almost infinite number of exposures, I do have to pay a certain "price"
What is this price?
The price of guaranteed obsolescence. Some of my film cameras are older than some CSers.
The price of unending hardware and software upgrade. It is a matter of time. One may be able to make great images with a Canon D30. But let a professional try to use this camera for his next wedding assignment, and see what happen? How old is the Canon D30? How about printers? The software I need for my B&W is in my head. MY B&W hardware will outlast me by a long margin.
The price of images becoming unusable years down the road, unless one engages in an unending changing of storage media. Any B&W negative made 20 years ago is immediately usable.
And more importantly.
The price of mental "slipshodness". Yes, it is not the problem of the equipment. Yes one can be very disciplined with a digital camera, etc. But the reality is that if one look at experiences of the average Joe, the fact that one can take and erase without any price, almost invariably results in a different way of making images.
And that, to me, is a very big price to pay!
student said:1 I rarely use slides.
2 I use black & white films. I develop and print the images myself. So that saves a lot of labout costs
3 While digital allows me to take an almost infinite number of exposures, I do have to pay a certain "price"
What is this price?
The price of guaranteed obsolescence. Some of my film cameras are older than some CSers.
The price of unending hardware and software upgrade. It is a matter of time. One may be able to make great images with a Canon D30. But let a professional try to use this camera for his next wedding assignment, and see what happen? How old is the Canon D30? How about printers? The software I need for my B&W is in my head. MY B&W hardware will outlast me by a long margin.
The price of images becoming unusable years down the road, unless one engages in an unending changing of storage media. Any B&W negative made 20 years ago is immediately usable.
And more importantly.
The price of mental "slipshodness". Yes, it is not the problem of the equipment. Yes one can be very disciplined with a digital camera, etc. But the reality is that if one look at experiences of the average Joe, the fact that one can take and erase without any price, almost invariably results in a different way of making images.
And that, to me, is a very big price to pay!
kiumjoon said:Very well said, you speak my mind too.
Sometimes i think its pretty hard to find teenagers who uses film cameras. Most of these days, i only see teenagers like me holds a big and expensive DSLR.
I just feel i am little out of this digital trend. but who cares? Film makes me happy.