All About The Olympus E-510 Thread


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Olyflyer is right.

Out of all Olympus DSLRs ever released, only the E-10, E-20, E-300 and E-330 allows the onboard flash to be used in tandem with hotshoe mounted external flash.

For the rest of the DSLRs that doesn't allow this, the reason is simple. It is the physical design of the hotshoe mounted flash that simply blocks and stops the onboard flash from popping up.
 

My example of testing the IS on the E-510...

Zuiko 50mm f5 at 1/3s ISO400 indoor at night shooting a magazine just for fun

Gosh! Even you acquired the E-510!!!

How do you find it in comparison with the E-1? :)
 

There are a couple of things:

Nothing can come near to the handling of the E-1. Even with the Kit lens, this camera don't feel nice to hold after a long time. The vertical length is too short to have a complete grip.

Loud shutter

The LCD seems wash out. The plastic LCD cover on the E-1 is more practical

The way the battery is latched by that tiny plastic... makes you worried

I miss the White Balance

I miss every single button on the E-1 ...

I miss the two dials for manual mode...

Need to be careful about scene with difficult metering condition, somewhat in feeling the E-1 is better. But what's the EV compensation there for right? :)

Color tone still very good but not as 'Oly' as E-1. Once again, this is feeling...

Better to remember to take care when weather condition is no good...

You know you are spoilt once you are a E-1 owner http://forums.clubsnap.org/images/cs/smilies/wink.gif

Don't get me wrong, the E-510 is one hell of a camera by itself!
If you put the E-510 circuits into the E-1 housing now, don't need the next E-x!
Maybe they can just called it E-30 (remember those E-10/20 tanks?) and start
producing them right away. I will definitely get one!

Gosh! Even you acquired the E-510!!!

How do you find it in comparison with the E-1? :)
 

Yes, technically, speaking, light ray is constant.

When I said that the shaking of the light ray, I'm speaking on the relative terms whereby the camera sensor is seen as a constant on which the light ray falls on. When the camera shakes, the position on which the light rays falls on the sensor will change.

The shake is said to be "magnified" not because of the "magnification" factor of a longer focal length per se but because of the longer (physical or otherwise) distance between the optical centre of the lens and the image sensor (i.e. focal length). Don't forget that magnification factor not only depends on focal length but also shooting distance.

An example would explain this :

You use a 90mm lens and you shoot from 1.8m away from the subject, your magnification factor is therefore 1/19 and a 684mm (19x36mm) subject would fall on the full width of a full frame (36mm width).

Now if you use a 180mm lens and you shoot from 3.6m away, your magnification factor will also be 1/19 and the 684mm (19x36mm) subject will also occupy the full width of the full frame.

Magnification factors are the same for both cases but the shutter speeds to avoid hand shake are different because of a difference in focal length (90mm vs 180mm in this case).

Related to the above, it is a common misconception that handshake is magnified because of the higher magnification factor of a longer focal length. Another example will explain : If you now shoot the 684mm subject from 7.2m away (instead of 3.6m away) with your 180mm lens, you magnification factor will become 1/39 and your 684mm subject will be only 17.54mm (instead of 36mm) on your image sensor. Now, your magnification factor is different (1/39 now vs 1/19 earlier) and your subject is now much smaller in the frame than previously. Do you now change your handheld shutter speed? Clearly, even the magnification is clearly smaller at 1/39 now, the guideline remains at 1/focal length = 1/180 regardless of whether you're shooting from 3.6m or 7.2m away (i.e. whether magnification is 1/39 or 1/19).

Those who are familiar with Tennis knows how a ball deviates from an intended spot on the court depends on 2 main factors : 1) the angle of deviation from the intended direction, 2) the distance the ball travels (which is a result of a few factors).

In photographic terms, the 2 factors correspond to (1) hand/camera shake, (2) focal length.

Given the same angle of deviation in direction, the deviation from the intended spot on the court depends on the distance it travels.

Draw a diagram yourself and you can easily see why. Draw a horizontal straight line and then draw another straight line which is 1 degree angle deviation above or below of it at the starting point. We can easily see that the further away it is from the starting point, the greater the distance between the 2 lines.

The starting point is the optical centre of the lens while the distance from the starting point to the ending point is the focal length.

For the same amount of camera shake, the greater the focal length means the greater the light ray will change from its original spot on the sensor.

It's less of an issue with short focal lengths simply because shorter focal length means shorter distance (physical or virtual as in mirror lenses) between optical centre and the image sensor.... which means the spot on which light ray falls on the sensor will change little when an extremely short focal length is used.

At the end of the day, it is the focal length (i.e. distance between the optical centre of the lens and the image sensor) that ultimately determines how any handshake will be translated to a shift of the physical image on the sensor.

If the shutter closes fast enough, then any shift of the physical image on the sensor will be very limited and no image blur is apparently recorded.

FOV due to different sensor size is irrelevant because it does not affect how much the physical image shift on the sensor due to shake.

Hopes the above clarify some misunderstanding and hopefully don't mislead. At the end of the day, what matters is what you are able to handhold at and not what websites say.

Just like previously, I will refrain from arguing further about the handheld guideline and will let people believe in what they want to believe in. Otherwise, there will be too many things to explain (now some may wonder how to get the magnification factors calculated above. And no, I didn't get the numbers from websites but calculated them myself using a simple logic/formula. The numbers can easily be verified. Slight differences in the numbers can be attributed to the different definitions of shooting distance and have no impact on the validity of the above arguments.).

As said before, to test the effectiveness of the IS, a person needs to compare a picture taken with IS with the same picture taken without IS, and not against a shutter speed based on a guideline for a normal pair of steady hands.

Here's another handheld shot without any image stabiliser :
Actual focal length : 8.9mm
35mm format equivalent : 35mm
Shutter speed : 1/8 (motion blur clearly seen)

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you want to write a phd thesis on this subject?

actually, to sum up, the 1/shutter speed rule works most of the time even if ur magnification ratio is large. You can shoot well below the handshake rule only if ur magnification ratio is small.

so that's why as a rule of thumb, they say 1/shutter speed.......lol
 

Can i ask the experts here something abt the built in flash of this E-510... comparing to the E-330 which i owned previously... the light thrown by the E-330 seems angled more forward. This E-510's flash seems to angled more infront of you... is this the case?
 

Did a count and there were a total of 6 threads about the E-510 so I decided to do some house keeping and merge all 6 threads into one and rename it. Please kindly post all things E-510 in here before the section gets really messy. Hope to have your understanding in this matter. Cheers.
 


"We tested the full horizontal/ vertical IS in our lab, using DxO Analyzer 2.0 to analyze blur differences. These tests found that the E-510 added 1 to 1.5 stops of steadiness for handheld photos shot with a 300mm (equivalent) lens. (Our test lens was the 40-150mm f/4-5.6 kit lens set to 150mm for a 300mm equivalent field of view).

That's not as good as the test results from the IS systems on the Sony Alpha 100 or Pentax K10D DSLRs."


oh really. :bigeyes:
 

No.. this is a differnet shrek species... hahahaha... :)
 

hi all e-510 users.... I have juz joined your clan yesterday....
still playing around with the camera... i must say the kit lens is really on par with my previous tamron 17-50.... images are good and sharp.... but when come to indoor shoots it is really not fast enough... any one used the 14-54 on the e-510?... is it a little too big for it?...
another concern is when it comes to scenes with high contrast areas... the brighter areas tends to be washed out, and i mean really washed out, just white.... anyone has any tips in using it when come to shooting such scenes?
really nothing bad to bring up already except for the looks and feel of the menu.... it just gives me a feeling that olympus never put in enough effort to design their camera's menu... it looks like it is designed by primary school art students... hee

hope to learn more from you guys man.... btw when kind of settings is ideal for general shoots??

anyone looking to buy the e-510 kit lens?? can pm me... thanks for reading!!!!!
 

anyone knows whether there's third party batts for the E-510... the originals is way out of my budgets...
 

anyone knows whether there's third party batts for the E-510... the originals is way out of my budgets...

The ones from eastgear are fairly decent.

But as always with 3rd party batteris, use at your own risk.
 

anyone knows whether there's third party batts for the E-510... the originals is way out of my budgets...

It's just a regular BLM-1, right? If you have Delkin brand batteries available, I've had good luck with them.
 

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