G-man
Senior Member
I maintain full aperture control and even AF (slow as tortoise but it's still there) with a Metabones adapter.
Advice to move from canon 5d3 to Sony A7 mk2
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I maintain full aperture control and even AF (slow as tortoise but it's still there) with a Metabones adapter.
richiemccaw1
Senior Member
LOL - slow as tortoise is just about right.
ricleo
Senior Member
with the a7R2, hopefully the tortoise is upgraded to a hare... online videos of canon lens AF with a7r2 looks promising so far. Hope the Sigma lenses AF well too!.
Second that, mirrorless is significantly lighter, but once constant 2.8 glasses are used, eg,cz batis , it becomes front heavy, and balance is not there anymore.
G-man
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Well I guess when I went into the Sony system, weight savings was only one factor. More than anything, it was the dynamic range and ability to use glass from several manufacturers that attracted me more than the weight savings. Oh and the tilt screen is nice for odd angles too. 
yeoenghwee
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Actually I have done a side by side test with my own canon 5d3 with tamron 24-70 f2.8 vs Sony a7mk2 with their 24-70 f4.the focus wise for single shoot in term of speed seems to be on par and in extreme low light the Sony seems to be able to focus compare to my canon 5d3. Is it my wrong impression or does Sony a7mk2 really focus slower than a native dslr?
G-man
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Well I think it's hard to really tell to be fair. Ideally you would use both of the same lens focal length and max aperture. Then do not forget that in good light most lenses can focus fast enough that the difference is hard to tell.
I somehow feel that the 5D3 is still superior to my Sony in AF speed. But then again that's just a gut feel as I do not have both native mounts of say a 16-35 f/4 to test.
How do owners of Sony A7 series cameras find the changing of AF point? Personally, I find changing of AF point on MILCs without touchscreens to be a royal pain.
I still have not gotten used to EVF. Will rather use LCD.
As for weight, the latest A7RM2 is 600+ g. Unless one uses native FE lenses, adding a metabones adapter brings total weight beyond that of 6D. Also, MILC telephoto lenses have zero weight advantage.
No one however can challenge the awesome DR of Sony sensors.
My 2 cents.
I still have not gotten used to EVF. Will rather use LCD.
As for weight, the latest A7RM2 is 600+ g. Unless one uses native FE lenses, adding a metabones adapter brings total weight beyond that of 6D. Also, MILC telephoto lenses have zero weight advantage.
No one however can challenge the awesome DR of Sony sensors.
My 2 cents.
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G-man
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Pretty much how I feel about the Sony A7R.
flitstoned
Member
Made a switch half-way but there still does not seem to be any 70-200 F2.8 lens in the mirrorless world. Of course, we have the Fuji 50-140 2.8 which translates to about 70-200 but the 2.8 also translates to F4.
ricleo
Senior Member
when the a7r2 is out, we will be able to use the DSLR 70-200 lenses with adaptors at decent/good AF speeds.
ShutterBugL
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I have both the 5DM3 and the a7R (M1).
The key advantages of the a7R are: (1) portability; (2) availability (using adapters) for a wide range of third party lenses (including Canon lenses); (3) apps which expand functionality (including remote control via iphone); (4) higher resolution; and (5) small and less noticeable - you can mount on a tiny table-top tripod and use in low light places which usually ban full-sized tripods (e.g. Notre Dame and St Chapelle in Paris).
The main issues with the a7R for me are: (1) ridiculously expensive off-camera sync cord; (2) low battery life; (3) only 1 memory card slot; (4) less body rigid material + shutter slap = vibration issues; (5) did not ship with a battery charger (!?!?!); (6) mounting the larger lenses on the a7R makes balancing the whole rig a bit tricky; and (7) not as good tonal and colour accuracy.
The key advantages of the a7R are: (1) portability; (2) availability (using adapters) for a wide range of third party lenses (including Canon lenses); (3) apps which expand functionality (including remote control via iphone); (4) higher resolution; and (5) small and less noticeable - you can mount on a tiny table-top tripod and use in low light places which usually ban full-sized tripods (e.g. Notre Dame and St Chapelle in Paris).
The main issues with the a7R for me are: (1) ridiculously expensive off-camera sync cord; (2) low battery life; (3) only 1 memory card slot; (4) less body rigid material + shutter slap = vibration issues; (5) did not ship with a battery charger (!?!?!); (6) mounting the larger lenses on the a7R makes balancing the whole rig a bit tricky; and (7) not as good tonal and colour accuracy.
denzelwng4
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I am also seriously considering and waiting on A7Rii 👍🏻👍🏻
What are you shooting?
I got the 5dm3 when it just came out 3 years along with 4 other L lenses and a 40mm pancake. Lugging around and shooting using using a camera of this size makes you look like a professional photographer. Sometimes look a bit odd in certain events or function when u are a guest. My neck hurt after a long USA trip.
Live view is incredibly slow. Understand the newer canon dslrs have dpaf but still cannot do autofocus video with L lenses. Also had the Zeiss 50mm with top notch sharpness and micro contrast but realized I was not an MF shooter esp for kids. Finally gave up and sold everything.
Moved over to micro four thirds and the portability of the camera makes me bring it everywhere to shoot my kids. The speed and useability is light ages ahead of the flagship 5dm3. Autofocus video and OIS are superb. My main complaint is the noisy photos at high ISO under low light because of a small sensor. And maybe bokeh not as good. f2.8 feels like f5. Nevertheless, it captures beautiful pics when lighting is good.
I'm current using the Leica Q. It is compact, FF like the a7ii and has most of the features I need from both 5dm3 and my Olympus EM5ii. I'm keeping my Olympus and I still have change left from selling my entire canon line. Can't be happier than that.
I think canon is still comfortably selling old tech to consumers. Many of us stick to the brand cos of the large investments in their lenses. The company is certainly very faithful to its commitment to professional DSLR photography and L lenses though. On the other hand, Sony caters to the needs of non-professional photographers. They have advanced quite a lot with better sensors, lighter weight and an expanded line of fantastic Zeiss lenses.
Which camera to get? I suppose it really depends on what you are using for and what features are more important to your usage. To me as a casual shooter, portability is very important and mirrorless offers me that.
I got the 5dm3 when it just came out 3 years along with 4 other L lenses and a 40mm pancake. Lugging around and shooting using using a camera of this size makes you look like a professional photographer. Sometimes look a bit odd in certain events or function when u are a guest. My neck hurt after a long USA trip.
Live view is incredibly slow. Understand the newer canon dslrs have dpaf but still cannot do autofocus video with L lenses. Also had the Zeiss 50mm with top notch sharpness and micro contrast but realized I was not an MF shooter esp for kids. Finally gave up and sold everything.
Moved over to micro four thirds and the portability of the camera makes me bring it everywhere to shoot my kids. The speed and useability is light ages ahead of the flagship 5dm3. Autofocus video and OIS are superb. My main complaint is the noisy photos at high ISO under low light because of a small sensor. And maybe bokeh not as good. f2.8 feels like f5. Nevertheless, it captures beautiful pics when lighting is good.
I'm current using the Leica Q. It is compact, FF like the a7ii and has most of the features I need from both 5dm3 and my Olympus EM5ii. I'm keeping my Olympus and I still have change left from selling my entire canon line. Can't be happier than that.
I think canon is still comfortably selling old tech to consumers. Many of us stick to the brand cos of the large investments in their lenses. The company is certainly very faithful to its commitment to professional DSLR photography and L lenses though. On the other hand, Sony caters to the needs of non-professional photographers. They have advanced quite a lot with better sensors, lighter weight and an expanded line of fantastic Zeiss lenses.
Which camera to get? I suppose it really depends on what you are using for and what features are more important to your usage. To me as a casual shooter, portability is very important and mirrorless offers me that.
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silvermoon1407
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Changing of AF point is pretty easy on the A7 series, if u really know your camera well.
Because of the customisability of almost all the buttons on the A7, changing focus point during shooting modd can be as easy as e.g. Tap centre back button, toggle d-pad to desired focus point, tap centre back button again.
You can also change the size of the focus point very easily. People who tell you that settings are difficult to change on the fly, don't know their cameras well.
G-man
Senior Member
Actually from what I understand there are very few equivalent focal length AND aperture lenses that are similar. Only 4 I can think of are 35mm f/1.4, 24-70 f/4, 16-35 f/4 and 70-200f/4.
AFAIK, only the Sony 70-200 f/4 is heavier than the Canon equivalent. I could of course be wrong since I am still using my canon glass with my Sony.
Check the review sites, they state physical dimensions and weight clearly. But keep in mind: features like Canon Image Stabilization in lens will add to the weight where Sony comes with in-camera stabilization.
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