Active vs Normal VR

Which do you use most often?


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i havent tried the 70-300 before but i know it's definitely not bigger than the 70-200 vr lol.
 

Correct me if I am wrong... Normal VR is to correct for vertical movement only. Active VR will correct for vertical and horizontal movement. So, Active VR is not good for panning shots.

I use Active most of the time, in case my hand shake left and right. :P

Please advise.
 

Correct me if I am wrong... Normal VR is to correct for vertical movement only. Active VR will correct for vertical and horizontal movement. So, Active VR is not good for panning shots.

I use Active most of the time, in case my hand shake left and right. :P

Please advise.

Normal will normally correct for both horizontal and vertical vibrations but it will also detect if there is a panning in one axis and disable the correction for that axis. In Active mode, the correction will be more aggressive on both axes and will not detect panning, that's why it can be used if you're shooting from a moving vehicle.

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Out of all the Nikon lenses endowed with VR, I find (strangely!) that the 70-200mm's VR seems to be the least effective, and the most effective one, the 18-200mm VR. Real weird.

The 18-200 is using the newer generation VRII.
 

The 18-200 is using the newer generation VRII.

That doens't really explain why I see the 80-400 (first VR lens IIRC) seems to stabilise the image more. I am leaning towards the theory of lens weight/length heavier/longer = less effective VR.
 

That doens't really explain why I see the 80-400 (first VR lens IIRC) seems to stabilise the image more. I am leaning towards the theory of lens weight/length heavier/longer = less effective VR.

I think it has to do with the weight of the VR element.
 

Weight of VR element? Too cheem for me :embrass:

The VR element has to move to correct the camera movement. If it's too heavy, then it will not be able to move fast enough.
 

The VR element has to move to correct the camera movement. If it's too heavy, then it will not be able to move fast enough.

How would you be able to determine VR element weight from the lens?
 

Out of all the Nikon lenses endowed with VR, I find (strangely!) that the 70-200mm's VR seems to be the least effective, and the most effective one, the 18-200mm VR. Real weird.

I think it's not the VR module, but rather the lenses' dimensions that make the difference, the 70-200 is a huge lens compared to the 18-200, holding a big 70-200 cannon will be comparatively less stable to start of with. thus the perception that the 70-200 VR is less effective, as it actually wrks harder to correct more human movement errors.

Just my 2 cents, think this argument make sense to me.
 

I think it's not the VR module, but rather the lenses' dimensions that make the difference, the 70-200 is a huge lens compared to the 18-200, holding a big 70-200 cannon will be comparatively less stable to start of with. thus the perception that the 70-200 VR is less effective, as it actually wrks harder to correct more human movement errors.

Just my 2 cents, think this argument make sense to me.

That was what I said in an earlier post - centre of gravity. Not much different from what you post here. However, I think isisaxon might be correct too? His theory makes sense also :dunno:
 

I think it's not the VR module, but rather the lenses' dimensions that make the difference, the 70-200 is a huge lens compared to the 18-200, holding a big 70-200 cannon will be comparatively less stable to start of with. thus the perception that the 70-200 VR is less effective, as it actually wrks harder to correct more human movement errors.

Just my 2 cents, think this argument make sense to me.

You are wrong there.. A heavier lens has greater inertial mass so it will be more stable than a lighter lens. That's why in the not so long ago days when VR wasn't invented yet, people like heavy heavy stuff... Good for the picture... but definitely not good for the back.. ;p
 

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You are wrong there.. A heavier lens has greater inertial mass so it will be more stable than a lighter lens. That's why in the not so long ago days when VR wasn't invented yet, people like heavy heavy stuff... Good for the picture... but definitely not good for the back.. ;p

Greater inertial mass is correct. However, the smaller cameras eg D40 will be "front heavy", offset of CG. They will end up using 1 hand only to balance the lens (that would be the hand holding the lens). But if you plonk it on a D2x, I believe CG will alter such that you are actually stabilising it with both hands.

Another reason might be muscle just not strong enough to hold that kind of weight and arm muscle go into muscles spasms? ;p :bsmilie::bsmilie:
 

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Greater inertial mass is correct. However, the smaller cameras eg D40 will be "front heavy", offset of CG. They will end up using 1 hand only to balance the lens (that would be the hand holding the lens). But if you plonk it on a D2x, I believe CG will alter such that you are actually stabilising it with both hands.

Another reason might be muscle just not strong enough to hold that kind of weight and arm muscle go into muscles spasms? ;p :bsmilie::bsmilie:

Yah.. that's why the balance of the setup is important.. I was using a Canon PnS without IS when I went for an overseas trip a couple of years back... I couldn't even hold 1/30 at the 28mm equivalent!! It was simply too light.. Ended up with a whole lot of pictures I needed to PS because I didn't like the reproduction. Really regretted not bringing my D70s then...
 

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