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espn said:
Oh no, our dear Watcher will be coming in very soon to refute you on this with shots by portraits using the AF-S 12-24DX f/4. Heehee... but if you're looking for portrait lenses, can try these

85 f/1.8
180 f/2.8
105 DC
70-200VR f/2.8 or 80-200 f/2.8

I might get slapped for recommending the last 2 but I find the range for the bokeh & quality for the portraits are nice :thumbsup:

At $80 you're looking probably at a lighter weight one that won't properly support your equipment in the long run. SLIK U9000 probably falls into that price but I doubt it can support your D70 + telephoto lenses in the long run.

Believe me, I've gone that way and wasted that kind of money and spend another few hundreds upgrading the legs with head. Get a good tripod leg and from then on if your ballhead cannot support you can always change your ballhead.



sounds logical, espn...
where can i get Manfrotto 190B then?
 

charlene said:
sounds logical, espn...
where can i get Manfrotto 190B then?
Manfrotto 190B can be purchase from CP at Peninsula.

After your purchase, I would like to invite to you our Nikon Council Meeting group at Spinelli Cafe, Peninsula Hotel, just across the road.

Many Nikon D70 newbies found their answers with us, 'The Nikon Council' regulars. BTW espn, Watcher, GAdrian, AJ23, Ansel, Leonzhu and myself are part of this group. Should you like to try some lens, do PM me in advance, and I shall bring them along.

Should you need further assistance, PM any of us and we shall see where we can be of help.
 

There's nothing better than going for the Nikon Council you can try many lenses I believe almost the whole of Nikon's lenses, apart from the AF-S 300/400/500 are available for you to try and discuss further. :thumbsup:

If you need assistance in selecting a tripod and people to accompany you, just let us know, I'm pretty sure gadrian, me and sykestang will be more than willing to go see you spend money, Urm.. I mean buy a tripod. :devil:
 

$80 for tripod. Why not consider 2nd hand first? (you won't lose a lot too even if you sell). Tripod is one of the stuff which you can buy second hand with low risks. :)

Slik is cheap and good. Slik U9000 as mentioned is only $50-55 first hand. Holds up to a load of 2.5kg, it is 1.5kg in weight. If you do not raise the center column, it is actually very stable. But with anything more than a light consumer telephoto zoom, you are pushing the limits with this.

A Slik Able 300DX is very good already for starters, unless you are seriously into stuff like bird photography and need to track something in flight. I think $100 or less 2nd hand can get since new is around 120 at mscolor, complete with head. Should be more than enough for you to play with. Can take loads up to 5kg.

BTW, are you a lady? If so, weight will be a definite consideration.

http://www.thkphoto.com/products/slik/slik-09b.html
 

Hi Charlene,

after reading the whole thread. It seems to me that you are actually pretty new to photography (not to mention Digital photography).

My personal advice - don't buy anything yet (well..maybe a tripod) But hold back your buying spree.

Practise more and you will naturally know what are the equipments you need.

Filters are not a must. And you do not use them frequently.

Your current lens is good enough for your current stage. Only after you have progressed, you would know what lens you need.

Do not be too anxious to jump right into pro-gear. You may end up buying what you don't need and thus wasting thousands of dollars.

So practise more. Buy later.
 

2100 said:
$80 for tripod. Why not consider 2nd hand first? (you won't lose a lot too even if you sell). Tripod is one of the stuff which you can buy second hand with low risks. :)

Slik is cheap and good. Slik U9000 as mentioned is only $50-55 first hand. Holds up to a load of 2.5kg, it is 1.5kg in weight. If you do not raise the center column, it is actually very stable. But with anything more than a light consumer telephoto zoom, you are pushing the limits with this.

A Slik Able 300DX is very good already for starters, unless you are seriously into stuff like bird photography and need to track something in flight. I think $100 or less 2nd hand can get since new is around 120 at mscolor, complete with head. Should be more than enough for you to play with. Can take loads up to 5kg.

BTW, are you a lady? If so, weight will be a definite consideration.

http://www.thkphoto.com/products/slik/slik-09b.html

Actually dude, you forgot that the tripod must be able to support the setup at portrait position also, the SLIK U9000 I believe will not be able to support the D70 + 18-70 + SB-800 mounted at portrait position, a slight push and the setup should go tumbling down. (Like I said, believe me, I've gone this way before...)
 

meepokman said:
Hi Charlene,

after reading the whole thread. It seems to me that you are actually pretty new to photography (not to mention Digital photography).

My personal advice - don't buy anything yet (well..maybe a tripod) But hold back your buying spree.

Practise more and you will naturally know what are the equipments you need.

Filters are not a must. And you do not use them frequently.

Your current lens is good enough for your current stage. Only after you have progressed, you would know what lens you need.

Do not be too anxious to jump right into pro-gear. You may end up buying what you don't need and thus wasting thousands of dollars.

So practise more. Buy later.

Which is why, come to Nikon council, we'll help you discover what you need and you can try before buying :)

Extra filters like star filters etc are not really needed, but do protect your lenses with a UV filter as I mentioned in my first reply. Circular Polarisers depends on your needs.

I think the thread starter knows what s/he wants to shoot already, thus I recommended the lenses accordingly, actually just 1 lens can do most of the job, a 80-200 or 70-200 :) but I just split the lenses up into their categories :)
 

espn said:
Actually dude, you forgot that the tripod must be able to support the setup at portrait position also, the SLIK U9000 I believe will not be able to support the D70 + 18-70 + SB-800 mounted at portrait position, a slight push and the setup should go tumbling down. (Like I said, believe me, I've gone this way before...)

Definitely. I have this piece of metal when i got the Oly C5050 (and still have it now to use with umbrella). The thing cannot even lock properly into a level position when in portrait without any serious fiddling. :bsmilie: Can't expect much for something that costs $50 lor.

PS. Actually, without the center column extended, it is actually very sturdy for decent still life use. My opinion is that tripods = 3 legs anyway, erect the center stick and it becomes "un-rigid" naturally because it's 1 stick straight up unless you really over-engineer. I mean, common sense and law of physics. :) It's actually not that low in height, so mai hiam buay pai.
Else upgrade up and get the 300DX or even 190.
 

Mmm, most of the lens are already mentioned but I do recommend you to hold your purchase of lens since you already have the kit lens and 50mm which covers most of the necessary focal length. If you are in to wide than there are not really much choice for zoom other than the 12-24.

Hold back your purchase for lens and spent a bit more for the tripot and get a sturdy one with a good head, may cost you a hafty sum but will last you longer and cost less instead of changing it all the time as you will discover along the way. Important to consider weight as you may leave it at home most of the time if it is too heavy and cumbersome to carry out all the time. Recommend you look into carbon fiber ones as they are light and sturdy.
 

Heh maybe it is juz me, but i prefer to skip the tripod and head for the 70-200mm VR :)

prefer on-the-fly shots without setting up equipment. but thats my shooting style, if ur style is shooting long range of birds and other things then get a good solid tripod.
 

espn said:
Oh no, our dear Watcher will be coming in very soon to refute you on this with shots by portraits using the AF-S 12-24DX f/4. Heehee... but if you're looking for portrait lenses, can try these

85 f/1.8
180 f/2.8
105 DC
70-200VR f/2.8 or 80-200 f/2.8

I might get slapped for recommending the last 2 but I find the range for the bokeh & quality for the portraits are nice :thumbsup:

At $80 you're looking probably at a lighter weight one that won't properly support your equipment in the long run. SLIK U9000 probably falls into that price but I doubt it can support your D70 + telephoto lenses in the long run.

Believe me, I've gone that way and wasted that kind of money and spend another few hundreds upgrading the legs with head. Get a good tripod leg and from then on if your ballhead cannot support you can always change your ballhead.

Why would you get slapped for recommending the 105DC? Isn't it supposed to be THE portrait lens, together with the 85/1.4?

Anyway, I support espn's suggestion to get a set of good legs and a quality ballhead... going to save you lots of money in the future cos a good tripod and head can last you for a lifetime, if you do it right the first time round. Othewise, you will be constantly upgrading and wasting more money in the process.
 

2100 said:
$80 for tripod. Why not consider 2nd hand first? (you won't lose a lot too even if you sell). Tripod is one of the stuff which you can buy second hand with low risks. :)

Slik is cheap and good. Slik U9000 as mentioned is only $50-55 first hand. Holds up to a load of 2.5kg, it is 1.5kg in weight. If you do not raise the center column, it is actually very stable. But with anything more than a light consumer telephoto zoom, you are pushing the limits with this.

A Slik Able 300DX is very good already for starters, unless you are seriously into stuff like bird photography and need to track something in flight. I think $100 or less 2nd hand can get since new is around 120 at mscolor, complete with head. Should be more than enough for you to play with. Can take loads up to 5kg.

BTW, are you a lady? If so, weight will be a definite consideration.

http://www.thkphoto.com/products/slik/slik-09b.html




yeah...weight really matters. i'm a lady. but i guess i'm strong ok..heehee
 

thks pple...i guess is right..as u all say, practise more 1st before throwing in money on expensive eqiupment....mayb right now i shld buy a speedlite.

btw, asking u guys a question. i'm using a dry box now and how much silica gel do i really need to pour in? i seal 'em in bag with poked holes or juz pour in the box?
 

I think you shld get an electrical dry cabinet. Dry box with silica gel is really troublesome. Got to change it frequently and will cost more in the long run.
:)


charlene said:
thks pple...i guess is right..as u all say, practise more 1st before throwing in money on expensive eqiupment....mayb right now i shld buy a speedlite.

btw, asking u guys a question. i'm using a dry box now and how much silica gel do i really need to pour in? i seal 'em in bag with poked holes or juz pour in the box?
 

Parallel said:
I think you shld get an electrical dry cabinet. Dry box with silica gel is really troublesome. Got to change it frequently and will cost more in the long run.
:)


i dun really have room for it...
 

charlene said:
i dun really have room for it...

It is not really that big. It shld not be much bigger from your dry box since I presume you are putting your D70 + lenses in it.
Anyway to answer your qn, for me, I just poured in the silica gel and just a few layers full can already.
 

Just aim to keep RH at 60% can already. 50% is really the minimum to go. Coz if it's too low, the lubricating oil can dry up from what i heard. Have also heard stories from a friend that he erronously set it to 30% RH the first time round and after a while when he powered up and AF the lens, an initial screeching noise could be heard.
 

2100 said:
Just aim to keep RH at 60% can already. 50% is really the minimum to go. Coz if it's too low, the lubricating oil can dry up from what i heard. Have also heard stories from a friend that he erronously set it to 30% RH the first time round and after a while when he powered up and AF the lens, an initial screeching noise could be heard.




yeah...and some plastic parts may crack too
 

The relative humidity for camera accessories is 45-55% thereabouts.

I'd seriously advise against using a dry box, but do go for a 30L dry cabinet instead. You spent a few thousands on pieces of glass, so do justify the care needed for it as well, 30L won't take up much space.

And also, 70-200VR is not a substitute for a tripod, there are times when I wished I'm using the 70-200VR on a tripod as well. ;)
 

Parallel said:
It is not really that big. It shld not be much bigger from your dry box since I presume you are putting your D70 + lenses in it.
Anyway to answer your qn, for me, I just poured in the silica gel and just a few layers full can already.
Friend.. I think a few layers is too much!!! I have ever tried using a XXL Drybox for my gears before getting a dry cabinet. Also I bought a digital hydrometer to gauge the dryness inside. For info, a single layer of silca-gel can drop the to 33% which is too low for gears.

Normal gauge for a XXL is just a small handful spread at the bottom. Get a piece of thin cloth or ironing mesh over it, then place in the bottom plastic base piece before putting in your gears.

On the long run, it is advisible to get a electric dry cabinet due to the following reasons:
- Level of dryness is well controlled and maintained
- Very low running cost as compared to silca-gel
- Need not to check on the status of silca-gel

Most importantly, do you know that the dust from the silca-gel can spoil mechanical moving parts? ie, if the dust of the silca-gel gets into the camera or lenses focusing ring or any other motor mechanical parts can jam and cause damage to your equipment... this dust is often found as when the blue(dry) silca-gel keeps absorbing water and changes to pink, once it gets too much water, it will 'explode' to many smaller pieces as the inner of the silca-gel is dryer then the outer surface which contacts to water first. You can actually do a very simple experiment, put a few silca-gels on a small puddle of water droplet on a flat surface, you'd notice a couple of silca-gel may 'explode' to few smaller pieces when it changes to pink. Thus this explosion will generate dust and some small parts made shoot into your camera body, lenses, etc.

So beware and advised to get a dry cabinet if you can afford the space.
 

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