A99


well, given that a99 has so much technology advances even from d800 and 5d3.
It is still labelled as an enthusiast camera, kinda pissed esp that coming from dpreview. :|

Yeah but those are the "enthusiast" ff dslr cameras too. The "pro grade" are the 1 series, D3/D4.

It's a perfectly fine description to use.
 

well, given that a99 has so much technology advances even from d800 and 5d3.
It is still labelled as an enthusiast camera, kinda pissed esp that coming from dpreview. :|

Depends on how DPreview defines Enthusiast and Pro.
DPreview usually defines "pro" with respect to Sports Photography, not so much as in whether the camera is used for bread and butter issues in other fields of Photography.

The correct way to classify the camera would be "Landscape/Nature", "Portraits/Studio", "Events/Wedding", "Concerts/Performance", "Sports/Action" etc in order of the requirements.
 

Depends on how DPreview defines Enthusiast and Pro.
DPreview usually defines "pro" with respect to Sports Photography, not so much as in whether the camera is used for bread and butter issues in other fields of Photography.

The correct way to classify the camera would be "Landscape/Nature", "Portraits/Studio", "Events/Wedding", "Concerts/Performance", "Sports/Action" etc in order of the requirements.

Not really... They base their description on what the manufacturers say too. Canon and Nikon qualify the 1 and D3/D4 series as their "Professional" DSLR cameras. Sony themselves call the A99 an enthusiast camera (upper end of the enthusiast level in the PPT slides they showed).

Classifying a camera as a "landscape/portrait/etc" camera is actually the *worst* way (and faaaaar from the "correct" way), as any camera can be used for any of those purposes by just switching a lens, some skill, etc. Sure, some may be stronger in some aspects than others, but it's not like a camera is an "event camera" while another is a "portrait camera" and you are "not correct" to use a specific camera model for certain purposes. It's usually only the local SG mentality that starts asking ridiculous questions like "best camera for wedding" or "best camera for events" and thinks it's "correct" to classify cameras that way. It's an insult to a photographer's skill to think that they are not capable of determining for themselves what camera suits their own needs well.
 

Depends on how DPreview defines Enthusiast and Pro.
DPreview usually defines "pro" with respect to Sports Photography, not so much as in whether the camera is used for bread and butter issues in other fields of Photography.

The correct way to classify the camera would be "Landscape/Nature", "Portraits/Studio", "Events/Wedding", "Concerts/Performance", "Sports/Action" etc in order of the requirements.
With regards to "Sports Photography" the A99 is definitely not "pro":
"For the photographer looking to occasionally capture recreational or family sports, the A99 can produce good results, if you set your expectations accordingly."
lol, the A33 can do that too. At least the the A33 has a better AF coverage. :p
 

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With regards to "Sports Photography" the A99 is definitely not "pro": "for the photographer looking to occasionally capture recreational or family sports, the A99 can produce good results, if you set your expectations accordingly." lol

Yup. But it can be used for sports. There were a few using it at F1 for example.

But to limit a camera as a "sports camera" or "events camera" is just ridiculous imho
 

I don't think it was a great idea to reuse their aging APS-C AF sensor in the A99... I would have paid happily $1k more for a state of the art AF system.
 

I don't think it was a great idea to reuse their aging APS-C AF sensor in the A99... I would have paid happily $1k more for a state of the art AF system.

Yeah, that really surprised me too. It would only make sense if the cost of researching and developing a larger AF module is just too high for what may just be a stop-gap to full on-sensor PDAF (removing the need for a mirror).

Only issue with a full on-sensor PDAF is that AF is still interrupted when the shutter is closed (unless sony reinvents the sensor technology and introduces full electronic first and second curtain).
 

Yup. But it can be used for sports. There were a few using it at F1 for example.

But to limit a camera as a "sports camera" or "events camera" is just ridiculous imho


Well, it is not so much as a "Limit" but as a "Suitability".
All cameras can do all, but not all does so equally.
 

Hey anyone reading the DPreview A99 review and noticed that in Page 7 (Sony Alpha SLT-A99 In-Depth Review: Digital Photography Review) under camera menu page 2 it says there is a Power Ratio menu available in Manual Flash?

Anyone got success finding it? I tried changing my F43AM to manual mode, tried setting it to wireless commander mode, pressed all the buttons, checked A99 manual but I can't seem to get the Power Ratio thing in the A99 menu out.
 

Only issue with a full on-sensor PDAF is that AF is still interrupted when the shutter is closed (unless sony reinvents the sensor technology and introduces full electronic first and second curtain).

Like the Nikon 1 some time ago... ;-)
 

Like the Nikon 1 some time ago... ;-)

Yup though the 1 struggles quite often. It would need massive refinement to keep dslr users happy. But Renesas did a great job on the 1 sensor.
 

Does the IS actually work with un-chipped manual focus lenses like the ones from Samyang? Does the A99 have an option to dial in the focal length?
 

Does the IS actually work with un-chipped manual focus lenses like the ones from Samyang? Does the A99 have an option to dial in the focal length?

It works fine, but assumes a 50mm focal length if nothing is sent by the lens.
 

It works fine, but assumes a 50mm focal length if nothing is sent by the lens.

Cool, better than nothing. Too bad they didn't add an option to set the focal length manually.
 

Cool, better than nothing. Too bad they didn't add an option to set the focal length manually.

Then you would need to constantly reset it whenever you change lenses. Almost all Sigmas identify themselves as a 50mm lens, and imagine if someone has 6 or more legacy/samyang lenses and needs to reset the SSS FL every time.

50mm is a good "average" and works fine. :)
 

Actually without a clr roadmap strategy by Sony I am hesitant jumping on Sony ff. it's like they are feeling their way thu, not listening and giving stop gaps.

It's frustrating since my first cam was a33. Thereafter better evf, sensor, af all in a span of 1.5 yrs to a77. A99 is the first of their ff and the most worrying qn being if they intend to support the dslr segment or spend more resources on nex ff. sometimes I wonder who is part of the beta test group that gives their 2 cents during product prototyping. End of the day, to us it's passion, to sony it's just business.

Some shocks I had using a99.
-Awb: in a77 I find tat Awb was inconsistent. But when it was correct, the Awb and color toning was spectacular. But it was hit and misses. A99 was spot on

- af: jus realize from thread it's a77 af sensor. Tat explains the tightness but doesn't explain why Sony din improve on tat for ff.
- seriously perhaps it was my rented copy with 200 shutter count. Button was too soft for lock shift.
- sensor: thumbs up. Was able to push up to 6400 when needed

Not a canikon fan but to try mk3 over the wkend really makes me wonder. Ppl jeer at incremental refinements on mk3. But fr a mk2 user, the changes were very much welcomed. Better noise, better af.
 

A99 is the first of their ff and the most worrying qn being if they intend to support the dslr segment or spend more resources on nex ff.

Before writing essays, may I suggest you actually know what you are talking about?

Not counting the vg900, the a99 is the third full frame dslr/dslt. Not the first.

They have already stated that both a-mount and e-mount are priorities for them and they are committed to a good long roadmap.

You should educate yourself more with facts before posting.
 

Before writing essays, may I suggest you actually know what you are talking about?

Not counting the vg900, the a99 is the third full frame dslr/dslt. Not the first.

They have already stated that both a-mount and e-mount are priorities for them and they are committed to a good long roadmap.

You should educate yourself more with facts before posting.

Hey Rashkae bro, not stirring anything here. I should clarify the following
- a99 is first of their dslt. will the next dslt will be incremental in features? Did u not feel a33/55 evf was testing the mkt? I feel cheated with the Awb tat they got right in a99
- on mk2, I shoot weddings with a partner who's on mk2 and now mk3. I am insistent on Sony. But objectively I do ask myself if canon y canon if Sony y sony. As it is now I won't switch cos I like sony. But I will b renting a99 on needs basis or til the pricing is cosy with me. I was hurt when after a33/55 then came a35/57/65/77
- on facts. in terms of development timeline and facts i cant compare to u gurus here.No sales pitch, feature list will help if they dun apply to u. I am like in a relationship that loves my partner with a few gripes.

On commitment to roadmap, only time will tell. If u r sony mgmt, would u choose passion or sales numbers? As a customer, if u pre ordered a99, and to see the drop over 2 mths, would u feel good cos u know all along it could hv been lower?
 

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