A57 is looking good...


i just got a new set of A580 from a chinese source. It's rival shops say that stocks of the a580 and those OVF models which has stopped production recently are clearing out pretty damn fast, so much so that some shops don't even have stock anymore.
it's a pity really, EVF still has a long way to go.. It's innovative yes, but low light with EVF just made my eyes bleed on the A65.. the a580 feels alot more plasticky and the A65 was already pretty damn plasticky but i'm fine with that.
 

i just got a new set of A580 from a chinese source. It's rival shops say that stocks of the a580 and those OVF models which has stopped production recently are clearing out pretty damn fast, so much so that some shops don't even have stock anymore.
it's a pity really, EVF still has a long way to go.. It's innovative yes, but low light with EVF just made my eyes bleed on the A65.. the a580 feels alot more plasticky and the A65 was already pretty damn plasticky but i'm fine with that.
How about the OVF, is it bright and big enough for you to be of any use? I thought about buying an A580 but the view finder size scares me and I'm not very impressed by the sensor performance of my NEX-5N. I guess the A580 will be similar. I actually preferred my A300. lol
 

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ageha said:
How about the OVF, is it bright and big enough for you to be of any use? I thought about buying an A580 but the view finder size scares me and I'm not very impressed by the sensor performance of my NEX-5N. I guess the A580 will be similar. I actually preferred my A300. lol

The a300 sensor is a ccd sensor if I recalled correctly . Decent in good lighting conditions but ISo beyond 800 is barely useable .
 

Atarandas said:
The a300 sensor is a ccd sensor if I recalled correctly . Decent in good lighting conditions but ISo beyond 800 is barely useable .

I think that is a well known fact. ;-)
 

How about the OVF, is it bright and big enough for you to be of any use? I thought about buying an A580 but the view finder size scares me and I'm not very impressed by the sensor performance of my NEX-5N. I guess the A580 will be similar. I actually preferred my A300. lol

I find the OVF a little small, i'm coming from a canon 50D/Pentax K5 previous setups. However, it is more than sufficient for my usage and yes, it is big and bright enough for me.
What's really impressive about the A580 is the price to value ratio- it is in a category of it's own here. It is by no means perfect, but i needed the tilting screen so i gave up the very very decent K5 for this.

I'm still rather new to photography and have a lot to learn so my recommendations are largely consumer based. I have had the NEX5N for awhile and have since sold it after getting the A580 and i found the NEX5N to TAKE excellent pictures. However, battery life, lack of physical buttons and the lack of an OVF meant it could not be my "main" system. Indeed it is a secondary system for many bros here, but for me I'm happy enough with my canon S95 for now.

Back to the A580, if you can get your hands on one, hurry, as stocks will dry up soon. My chinese sources tell me so and they are very reliable. One big plus is the 2 year warranty period if you register a Chinese DSLR online. You get 1+1 warranty, which is amazing. My set comes from a well established beijing shop that I am comfortable with and know to be reliable. They provide me with 3 years extended warranty on top of the two by sony to bring the total to five. It seems like overkill but I do not trust electronics in this day and age, given the planned obsolesce that is prevalent in our economy, so warranty is very important for me. My friend who used to work for sony tells me sony DSLRs have dust problems, but then again every single DSLR has dust problems, even the dust resistant models. The tool itself is excellent. It has everything I need, sans weather seals, which I guess I am willing to give up at its price point. This is a 2010 based camera, but then again, there will always be something newer and shiner, so just hurry, take your pick, and stick it out through the millions of increasing pixels and tosh!

And a note about the ISO performance... 2nd to none in it's class!
The sensor is the very same(not exact) as the one used in the D7000 and Pentax K5, which are legendary for their high ISO performance. If i recall correctly, the nex5n also uses something similar.
 

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Quite disappointing at ISO 6400:
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Quite disappointing at ISO 6400:
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cannot see your image lei.

So what's happening is that even though the MP count has been greatly(given that it's coming from 24 to 16- 1/3 of the MP) reduced, it still doesn't perform well in terms of ISO? that's a shame really sony had it going right with the A500 series.. if they kept going on the DSLR segment... but then of course SLTs compete in a clean market segment... would've loved a A600, but that's not gonna happen. but who's to say what's what. maybe in the future they'll backtrack on this: )
 

joshua182 said:
cannot see your image lei.

Odd, they don't load on Android for me now but they load on Linux in Firefox.
 

can save as and upload on other website?
 

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studio sample for jpeg n raw version
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raw in iso 3200..seem sony had a winner this time round
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Probably close enough.

i was similarly dismay with the high iso sample pic at dpreview, was abt to rant until i go to the studio sample.
think mabbe the kit lens is use for the casual sample shot?
 

raw in iso 3200..seem sony had a winner this time round
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Why are the Sony RAW files smaller? Is Sony using a lossy data compression or does Sony output fewer bits per channel? It can't be just the effect of a better lossless data compression.
 

typical agressive NR for jpegs, but the iso3200 raws look really good.
 

i was similarly dismay with the high iso sample pic at dpreview, was abt to rant until i go to the studio sample.
think mabbe the kit lens is use for the casual sample shot?

The K-5 looks still damn good for it's age and price right now. It seems to have much less chroma noise compared to the other three. The effect is more visibe in other parts of the shot.
 

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Why are the Sony RAW files smaller? Is Sony using a lossy data compression or does Sony output fewer bits per channel? It can't be just the effect of a better lossless data compression.

now u mentioned it....yes miraculously... for once their raw had a smaller footprint than the competitors(very happy)
k5 had insanely high filesize and d7000 isn't that much better either...
a ff d700 14 bit raw is average 14mb, ff 5dmkII is around 28mb......:bsmilie:
 

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