7D or 5D mk III


depends on your uses. if you are doing a paid job, need to do large prints and thus needs a lens that can provide you the ultimate performance and optics (less the slower AF of Canon 85L due to the large and heavy glass), go for Canon 85L. If not, get a copy of Sigma 85mm. It cost about 40-45% of 85L, but gives you very similar results.

I'm probably going to buy the Sigma 85mm if I intend to get a 85mm prime lens. The cost savings could be used to buy another Canon L lens that is superior of it's class (without much or even competition), like 16-35L for UWA or 70-200L f/2.8 II for telephoto zoom.

i will go for 16-35 and lastly 70-200 F4 IS as i think F2.8 mk2 is too heavy to travely around
 

This question is nonsenses as it implies comparison of what cannot be compared. Since both cameras have different sensors, the answer of the question rather lies within the envisaged field of application and thus can only be given by the TS himself (unless the TS does not even what he wants to shoot primarily; in that case a good point and shoot is the better alternative).

To keep things simple:

If you enjoy taking portraits, wildlife or macro photos then crop factor is for you.
If you take landscape photos - or a lot of photos indoors - then FF is you first choice.

In addition, the 7D is very fast.

Once one has found out what one wants to "focus" upon one may consider real upgrades as follows:

7D => 1Ds Mk3/4
5D mk2/3 => 1Ds Mk3/X

For the same reasons stated above, budget issues are fake reasons unless one suggest that one's budget dictates what one shoots...

Trust it clarifies.
 

:) cool bro, cool. Nothing wrong with getting either camera body if one has the cash.

7D and 5D3, both are decent camera bodies. Most of the time we are just "butt itchy" for the latest gadgets... pay a hefty premium for marginal upgrades.
 

:) cool bro, cool. Nothing wrong with getting either camera body if one has the cash.

7D and 5D3, both are decent camera bodies. Most of the time we are just "butt itchy" for the latest gadgets... pay a hefty premium for marginal upgrades.

I'm sure you'd get some disagreements :p

Looking at a whole package, the upgrade for 5D3 from 5D2 is indeed marginal. No change in MP (for the MP whores), slight increase in FPS which doesn't really look impressive. The biggest spot light would be the great improment in ISO and AF system, but that doesn't really make the upgrade a big wow upgrade.

But to a 5D2 user, the ISO and AF alone is an important improvement enough for an upgarde because they need them. I guess it goes down to what feature/functions of the camera to call it an "upgrade" or not. :)
 

To me i really love the fast FPS and af of the 7D. but the iso performance is the reason why i change to 5dm3. As technology progress, we might see sensor producing noise free picture at iso 25600.
 

To me i really love the fast FPS and af of the 7D. but the iso performance is the reason why i change to 5dm3. As technology progress, we might see sensor producing noise free picture at iso 25600.

You can have high ISO and fast FPS - 1DX :D
 

I'm sure you'd get some disagreements :p

Looking at a whole package, the upgrade for 5D3 from 5D2 is indeed marginal. No change in MP (for the MP whores), slight increase in FPS which doesn't really look impressive. The biggest spot light would be the great improment in ISO and AF system, but that doesn't really make the upgrade a big wow upgrade.

But to a 5D2 user, the ISO and AF alone is an important improvement enough for an upgarde because they need them. I guess it goes down to what feature/functions of the camera to call it an "upgrade" or not. :)

:bsmilie: 80/20 rule, whatever floats one's boat. I still hold my ground on my butt-itchy statement

Having lust for new equipment isn't anything bad, don't you feel that most of the time people ask in forums not for opinions but for assurance that they should get something better? ;)

Yes I lust for 1DX myself... my poor 1D3 just celebrated her 5th birthday this year *scratching my butt* ... :sweatsm:
 

:bsmilie: 80/20 rule, whatever floats one's boat. I still hold my ground on my butt-itchy statement

Having lust for new equipment isn't anything bad, don't you feel that most of the time people ask in forums not for opinions but for assurance that they should get something better? ;)

Yes I lust for 1DX myself... my poor 1D3 just celebrated her 5th birthday this year *scratching my butt* ... :sweatsm:

I agree with the butt itch. sadly speaking, men tends to be a gadget maniac. Having enjoyed a 1D4 myself, I do lust for the 1DX if my house prints money :bsmilie:
 

Alpha1ma, thank you for your clear explanation. Makes perfect sense really. Especially on 6 and 8 part. Really got it now.

So it's the ff for me then. Looks like now I have to plan the budget now. Sigh.

Recommend the kit lens ? Never like the fact to buy such a diverse lens. Always prefer a faster 2.8 one. So that leaves with the 1635, and the 70200. How about the middle bit? My walkaround would be the 1635 cause if I shoot kids, I can walk nearer.

Of course I don't own any of these lenses and will upgrade slowly but if I do get the ff will likely get the body and 1635 together.

Maybe wait for the 2470. New lens right.

Hi, would u be interested in a used 5dm3 body? I have a colleague considering selling his m3 body and 16-35mm lens. Both are less than a mth old. Unfilled warranty and not registered yet. Think he haven't even open the cd and camera strap. Shutter count is less than 100. We bought the camera around same time but he sort of regret. If u keen can pm me your offer. But no guarantee as he is still considering.

Don't buy the 24-70 now. MkII should be coming soon.
 

Any recommendation ? 7d or 5d mk 3

Only YOU can decide, based on your style and needs.

Anyway, as a side comment, there is no comparison when it comes to AF accuracy (particularly, the off-center ones) and depth of field control. The 5D3 crushes the 7D.
 

Anyone know if the 1Dx comes with the HDR feature found in the 5D3?
 

Is it really that hard to use Google?
 

Some people can genuinely offer help, some just have crow's mouth.
 

Some people cannot take 5 minutes to help themselves and expect others to do the work for them.
 

Some people can genuinely offer help, some just have crow's mouth.

Some people cannot take 5 minutes to help themselves and expect others to do the work for them.

I understand that long time forumers will usually get irritated by repeated questions - hence all the adverse reaction to some type of questions being asked…

Still if I might provide a communicative-theory perspective:

Eg: You enter your office, and your colleague asks you “hows the weather outside?” Will you immediately shoot back “Why don’t you open the window and find out for yourself?” That wouldn’t be all too polite isn't it?
What your colleague is innocently trying to do is probably not so much about the weather - but perhaps trying to start a conversation with you! Why, I would feel honoured someone finds a conversation with me a worthwhile thing to do!!

Perhaps. Maybe. Just maybe - some of these questions on the forums are simply conversation starters. Why shouldn’t a conversation thread on a forum be any different from Face-to-face conversations? Sometimes questions help start discussions. But sometimes too many questions kill conversations. So then perhaps the rules of Face-to-face communications, which we are all experts in, would apply to forums as well isn’t it?

I guess as educated, moral, people of what the ‘govt-men’ call ‘social-ettiquette’, we should consider give a couple of minutes to consider our posts before hitting the reply button :)

I mean, its just like any other conversation no?
 

Back on topic…

in my experience with the 5D3, it has pretty much addressed all of the concerns of the 5D2. Frankly its the most well-rounded DSLR in existence. It doesn’t take the FPS crown (1DX) or the resolution crown (D800) or the low light crown (D3s), but each of these crowns often give up something else to gain that crown.

The 5D3 seems to strike such a good balance in all areas, indeed above average in all. That to me might well be its ‘killer-feature'
 

Back on topic…

in my experience with the 5D3, it has pretty much addressed all of the concerns of the 5D2. Frankly its the most well-rounded DSLR in existence. It doesn’t take the FPS crown (1DX) or the resolution crown (D800) or the low light crown (D3s), but each of these crowns often give up something else to gain that crown.

The 5D3 seems to strike such a good balance in all areas, indeed above average in all. That to me might well be its ‘killer-feature'

jack of all trades, master of none. a jack of all trades is what most people willing to accept, if they need a master, go for pro-class bodies :D
 

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