7D or 5D mk III

[gundamseed84]

Do you have the budget for FF lenses also. Not just the body you need to change if you have APS-C lenses only.

 

[crysmeth]

Alpha1ma, thank you for your clear explanation. Makes perfect sense really. Especially on 6 and 8 part. Really got it now.

So it's the ff for me then. Looks like now I have to plan the budget now. Sigh.

Recommend the kit lens ? Never like the fact to buy such a diverse lens. Always prefer a faster 2.8 one. So that leaves with the 1635, and the 70200. How about the middle bit? My walkaround would be the 1635 cause if I shoot kids, I can walk nearer.

Of course I don't own any of these lenses and will upgrade slowly but if I do get the ff will likely get the body and 1635 together.

Maybe wait for the 2470. New lens right.

 

[ahboy168]

2 key factors: $budget and whether you need thin DOF/FF.
As for fps, I don't see any key difference.
As for iso, if u use flash or fast f1.4 glass, then not a key limitation.
5dmk3 with 24-105 easily cost 5.5k for a "start"

 

[esoeij]

Just wondering if you've considered alternative systems like m4/3? Seems something like the oly em-5 cld be an ideal system for you. 10fps, good iq, compact, lightweight n will cost less than a FF system.

 

[dodgethis]

Alpha1ma, thank you for your clear explanation. Makes perfect sense really. Especially on 6 and 8 part. Really got it now.

So it's the ff for me then. Looks like now I have to plan the budget now. Sigh.

Recommend the kit lens ? Never like the fact to buy such a diverse lens. Always prefer a faster 2.8 one. So that leaves with the 1635, and the 70200. How about the middle bit? My walkaround would be the 1635 cause if I shoot kids, I can walk nearer.

Of course I don't own any of these lenses and will upgrade slowly but if I do get the ff will likely get the body and 1635 together.

Maybe wait for the 2470. New lens right.

With the MkIII's high ISO performance, you can get a 17-40L F4 and either 70-200L F4 if you're not going to need high shutter speed. For the 24-70L, the new version's street price might clock in between two to three times what you can get the current one for on BnS. Or, you can go with the 24-105L F4.

In fact, my main question now is this. Are you going to shoot more than ISO1600 very frequently? If you are, get the MkIII. If not, get the 7D.

 

[tecnica]

Alpha1ma, thank you for your clear explanation. Makes perfect sense really. Especially on 6 and 8 part. Really got it now.

So it's the ff for me then. Looks like now I have to plan the budget now. Sigh.

Recommend the kit lens ? Never like the fact to buy such a diverse lens. Always prefer a faster 2.8 one. So that leaves with the 1635, and the 70200. How about the middle bit? My walkaround would be the 1635 cause if I shoot kids, I can walk nearer.

Of course I don't own any of these lenses and will upgrade slowly but if I do get the ff will likely get the body and 1635 together.

Maybe wait for the 2470. New lens right.

seriously, f2.8 is still kinda slow at times. but with the current ISO performance of 5DMK3, sure you can push your ISO way past 3200 and be able to get very usable images.

ultimately if you wanna have fast shutter speed but keep your ISO low, the answer is prime lenses.

anyhow, 16-35L + 70-200L will set you back by another 5ish-k.

 

[tonyep]

I would trade off that 2 fps for a better ISO performance and a newer AF system which is the 5D3.

 

[kollybie]

i pairing it with 24-105 cause it is a good walkabout lens and the weight is suitable for me. i do have the 24-70 but if you are travelling it will be quite heavy... If you really need larger aperture lens.. go for the prime.

I would pair my 5dm3 with 24-105 , 70-200 F4 IS , and 35L or 135L.

 

[spinworkxroy]

i pairing it with 24-105 cause it is a good walkabout lens and the weight is suitable for me. i do have the 24-70 but if you are travelling it will be quite heavy... If you really need larger aperture lens.. go for the prime.

I would pair my 5dm3 with 24-105 , 70-200 F4 IS , and 35L or 135L.

Or just get a cheap 50 F1.4 for situations where you need something F1.4...

 

[Turbonetics]

Hi turbonetics.

Just a family man but like to shoot my family, kids, holiday and landscapes.

I do take off ones a while to try out street shots of daily people and surroundings in Singapore to do my own coffee books for fun.

That's why still thinking.

I think of I go ff, body and 16 35 will do for now.

Then i think the 5D3 is more suitable for u and u won't go wrong with it.

 

[crysmeth]

Thanks everyone. Will go for 5d mk 3.

Now eyeing on some 2nd hand lenses like the 70 200 f4 IS or the 16 35. I think would likely buy the kit lens as topping up is quite reasonable.

 

[avsquare]

Thanks everyone. Will go for 5d mk 3.

Now eyeing on some 2nd hand lenses like the 70 200 f4 IS or the 16 35. I think would likely buy the kit lens as topping up is quite reasonable.

fairly good combi of a UWA + Standard Zoom + Telephoto Zoom. f/4 should be manageable with the clean ISO of 5D3

 

[crysmeth]

Yah. Thanks to all the recommendations from fellow members here.

 

[G-man]

Thanks everyone. Will go for 5d mk 3.

Now eyeing on some 2nd hand lenses like the 70 200 f4 IS or the 16 35. I think would likely buy the kit lens as topping up is quite reasonable.

That "kit" lens is a great walkabout lens. Especially since you are going FF.

 

[alpha1ma]

Alpha1ma, thank you for your clear explanation. Makes perfect sense really. Especially on 6 and 8 part. Really got it now.

So it's the ff for me then. Looks like now I have to plan the budget now. Sigh.

Recommend the kit lens ? Never like the fact to buy such a diverse lens. Always prefer a faster 2.8 one. So that leaves with the 1635, and the 70200. How about the middle bit? My walkaround would be the 1635 cause if I shoot kids, I can walk nearer.

Of course I don't own any of these lenses and will upgrade slowly but if I do get the ff will likely get the body and 1635 together.

Maybe wait for the 2470. New lens right.

i actually dun have much dough left after 5d3 purchase as i decided to hold on to my 500d setup.

so i got a second hand 17-40 lens instead. actually all my lens are second hand haha, save abit of money.

17-40 is just right for me as i can take landscapes as well as people (was using 28mm on 500d previously).

 

[ShaneKua]

One of the advantages of FF that crop sensors will never catch up with is the shallower depth-of-field. You get a lot of creative freedom with such depth of field control.

And Prime lenses are practically the ones to exploit that advantage.

Canon has lovely primes. Or if you don’t want to break the bank, Sigma’s Primes (50 and 85) are excellent contenders.

 

[kollybie]

is sigma 85 optics comparable to canon 85L ? i know the price different is huge... just wanna ask isit worth paying that much ?

 

[ShaneKua]

is sigma 85 optics comparable to canon 85L ? i know the price different is huge... just wanna ask isit worth paying that much ?

Here you go

http://darwinwiggett.wordpress.com/2011/04/12/sigma-85mm-f1-4-vs-canon-85mm-f1-2l-ii/

For the record, I got the sigma over the canon L because the Canon L focuses with the speed of a drifting glacier. The price savings definitely didnt hurt either.

 

[avsquare]

is sigma 85 optics comparable to canon 85L ? i know the price different is huge... just wanna ask isit worth paying that much ?

depends on your uses. if you are doing a paid job, need to do large prints and thus needs a lens that can provide you the ultimate performance and optics (less the slower AF of Canon 85L due to the large and heavy glass), go for Canon 85L. If not, get a copy of Sigma 85mm. It cost about 40-45% of 85L, but gives you very similar results.

I'm probably going to buy the Sigma 85mm if I intend to get a 85mm prime lens. The cost savings could be used to buy another Canon L lens that is superior of it's class (without much or even competition), like 16-35L for UWA or 70-200L f/2.8 II for telephoto zoom.

 

[kollybie]

Here you go

Sigma 85mm f1.4 vs Canon 85mm f1.2L II « Darwin Wiggett

For the record, I got the sigma over the canon L because the Canon L focuses with the speed of a drifting glacier. The price savings definitely didnt hurt either.

Thanks.. it really helps ... i will go for sigma 85mm and canon 135L