5D mk 2 versus mk 3

[TWmilkteaTW]

I doubt a newbie will ask anything about 5D2 & 5D3?

really?
Are you serious?
So whats your point...?
Are you saying everybody who buys the 5D2,5D3 and 1D series are all professionals? Since you say no newbie will ask.
?? You havnt seen people buying the 1D series and will also ask some really basic question? Dont get me wrong. Not saying they cant buy but rather as long you have the money. U take it. Newbie or professional. Right??

 

[gtan]

dodgethis and av square why cant you guys mind your own business and keep off my thread ?? i am asking an opinion from a new mk 3 owner not yourselves . u both seem educated enough but somehow strangely lack the basic intelligence to get lost when your opinions are not wanted. as a parting shot dodgethis maybe i dont capitalize my sentences because the audience i am reaching out to is smart enough to decipher what i am writing without capitalization. For your benefit, please keep off my threads now and in future. Hope my capitalized sentences are now clear enough for you to understand. Thank you very much .

 

[LouisLau]

really?
Are you serious?
So whats your point...?
Are you saying everybody who buys the 5D2,5D3 and 1D series are all professionals? Since you say no newbie will ask.
?? You havnt seen people buying the 1D series and will also ask some really basic question? Dont get me wrong. Not saying they cant buy but rather as long you have the money. U take it. Newbie or professional. Right??

Don't misinterpret my sentence. My understanding for newbie might not be the same as yours. Newbie to me is someone who just started off without any knowledge.

We started off as newbies with minimum knowledge. You sure you will know anything about fullframe or crop before you explore deeper into? Or even before you could understand all those different rules, composition and etc.

Needless to say if someone who actually ask for feedback between the differences of the m2 & m3 consider a newbie. That's my point.

Of course I don't assume people don't start off straight using fullframe. Seriously, this is Nothing to do with the equipments you used to determine whether you are a professional anot.

 

[esoeij]

You may not be aware, but CS rules state that users are supposed to use the search function to look for information before starting a new thread asking for it.

I have followed most of the 5D3 related threads and can tell you the information you want is there, esp in the 'official 5D3 users' thread. Many of the 5D3 owners who posted their comments there, including myself, were/are still 5D2 users. And a number of posts relate to user opinions on differences between 5D3 vs 5D2.

At the end of the day, no one can stop you from starting your own threads. That said, you can't stop others from posting in your threads either. Your choice.

 

[esoeij]

Don't misinterpret my sentence. My understanding for newbie might not be the same as yours. Newbie to me is someone who just started off without any knowledge.

We started off as newbies with minimum knowledge. You sure you will know anything about fullframe or crop before you explore deeper into? Or even before you could understand all those different rules, composition and etc.

Needless to say if someone who actually ask for feedback between the differences of the m2 & m3 consider a newbie. That's my point.

Of course I don't assume people don't start off straight using fullframe. Seriously, this is Nothing to do with the equipments you used to determine whether you are a professional anot.

No matter how you define it, TS is not a newbie. I believe he is an existing 5D2 owner. I recall he started threads on 5D2 vs 1D-something before.

 

[dodgethis]

dodgethis and av square why cant you guys mind your own business and keep off my thread ?? i am asking an opinion from a new mk 3 owner not yourselves . u both seem educated enough but somehow strangely lack the basic intelligence to get lost when your opinions are not wanted. as a parting shot dodgethis maybe i dont capitalize my sentences because the audience i am reaching out to is smart enough to decipher what i am writing without capitalization. For your benefit, please keep off my threads now and in future. Hope my capitalized sentences are now clear enough for you to understand. Thank you very much .

 

[oracle0711]

I think this is where you are wrong. There are newbies who are using both 5D2 and 5D3 at the same time. Picking up a DSLR has nothing to do with whether you are a newbie, amateur or a working photographer. As such is the case with most newbies (not all), what makes them not ask about 5D2 or 5D3 especially if this is the first time they own a DSLR?

I doubt a newbie will ask anything about 5D2 & 5D3?

 

[LouisLau]

I think this is where you are wrong. There are newbies who are using both 5D2 and 5D3 at the same time. Picking up a DSLR has nothing to do with whether you are a newbie, amateur or a working photographer. As such is the case with most newbies (not all), what makes them not ask about 5D2 or 5D3 especially if this is the first time they own a DSLR?

May I asked. Why are you telling me all these?

 

[G-man]

dodgethis and av square why cant you guys mind your own business and keep off my thread ?? i am asking an opinion from a new mk 3 owner not yourselves . u both seem educated enough but somehow strangely lack the basic intelligence to get lost when your opinions are not wanted. as a parting shot dodgethis maybe i dont capitalize my sentences because the audience i am reaching out to is smart enough to decipher what i am writing without capitalization. For your benefit, please keep off my threads now and in future. Hope my capitalized sentences are now clear enough for you to understand. Thank you very much .

 

[ahboy168]

thanks louis, i know there are reviews out there but i wanted to get a fresh reply from a new owner. every opinion may be slightly different and i value a possible deviation of opinion from the reviews available. .

as for dodgethis and avsquare, i would appreciate it if u keep out of my post if you have nothing constructive to contribute. if i want to hear a new opinion from another mk 3 owner who the hell are u both to deny me this? u got nothing better to say please butt out and get a life!! as for turbonetics the word is spoon fed and not spoon feed. gosh! its guys like u who dont think and just swallow everything a review says hook line and sinker which makes me want to puke.

thanks the rest of you . appreciate your advice.

I understand your feeling ... I got it from this forum as well
So, I know I won't do the same to others.
No one is either right or wrong.
Just ignore the "noise".... Ha ha

5dmk3 is a BIG improvement from 5dmk2.
It will change the way you used to shoot.
It will change the things you used to shoot.
It will make you want to shoot more.
Focus is very accurate and fast.
Body is more responsive with less shutter lag
Iso 3200 feel like iso 800 on 5dmk2. (2 stops)
You will run out of memory faster.
You will delete less pictures.
You have NO EXCUSE to blame the camera for a bad picture.

Buy now and need not think of upgrade for the next 3 years+ unless you are going for 1DX.

*this come from a 4 years newbie like me ..
*5dmk2 owner for 1.5 years
*5dmk3 owner for 2 weeks

 

[whitekop]

There is a fine line between those who cannot help themselves and those who don't want to help themselves. The point about many hobbies is that the best person to help you is yourself. If you don't want to help yourself, how can others help? This thread was not created for the purposes of discussion but for the TS to be spoonfed answers, as he clearly stated himself. Moreover, he is asking for information that is freely available on the net everywhere.

Let's take for example, what is depth of field. There is a whole Wiki article defining it. Coming to Clubsnap, posting a question, and waiting for the answer is just a waste of time.

Information overload? R.O.F.L. You're using 'don't know' to cover up your 'cannot be bothered'. My advice is for you is to not get this camera, if even reading up online is too much a chore for you. The manual that comes with the camera will cause you to run away screaming like a little girl.

Considering that reviews of the MkIII that have comparisons to the MkII aren't considered hand?

Especially when said newbie has been on this board since 2005 lol

People have over the years compiled their experiences and put them on the Internet for everyone to find. Is it really that hard to help yourself?

I tried multi quote all post by you in this thread, too bad can only multi-quote 5.

With all the time you have taken to post all those replies, you could have given TS a 1 page pointer on your experience on your 5D3. Sadly all you ever knows to do is to condemn and thrash an innocent person asking a question.

Sorry to say this but looking back at your post history, this seems like what you enjoy doing. If you are so good, why don't you go to picture gallery, open up a thread, and show people the skills you have with the photos taken with your camera.

I have to say people like you disgust me and many more here in CS (look at the number of likes on Louis post). It seems to me you spend most of your time googling or Wiki-ing.

Oh before I forget, if you reply to what I wrote, you will waste even more of your time, so do not even bother. :bsmilie:

Sorry for the OT, just felt funny that there are such people around and want to say my piece.

 

[Bluesteel]

I started writing a response to the last post , but realise it really isn't worth it.

I have better use of my time than getting distracted by people who need and support spoon feeding!

I guess they were too lazy to read these too:

ClubSNAP's Terms of Use, Rules and Regulations

2. New Posters (newbies) - Use the Search Engine to find out if whatever information you are seeking has been posted before posting a question.

..... it's all there at this threads

OFFICIAL: CANON EOS 5D Mark III - User Thread - Part 2

Move your ass over there to read if you are interested.

Cheers!

 

[oracle0711]

Because firstly, I disagree with the statement you made and secondly as this is a forum, each of us has a right to participate within the rules scope of discussion laid forth by the moderators. I might not be telling you anything and you can choose to see it from this perspective. I am simply using your post as a basis of carrying the discussion to a further stage.

And btw, I still stand by my view that newbies - even if they have no idea what photography is about but simply have the means - will still pick a 5d Mark 3 as their first camera. It is just a camera.

May I asked. Why are you telling me all these?

 

[titleist]

Where is the moderator??? This shouldn't belong here. Pls move it to hardware zone edmw!

 

[fotoworx]

The IQ between the two is virtually identical. Theres no improvement.

 

[wm910]

Seriously if any qns asked will piss anyone off please dont reply at all. I saw this thread came in and now i kept readimg people's arguement and reasons Is this thrrad about 5M2 vs M3 or arguements on we should or should not spoonfeed newbies etc thanks i will just leave

 

[Kenneth67C]

The IQ between the two is virtually identical. Theres no improvement.

That's absolutely false, particularly in lowlight and for fast moving subjects.

You guys should cut the TS some slack: having to shift through 2000 posts in the part II just to find an answer isn't exactly fun. And some of you were guilty of contributing to those 2000 posts obviously think this is repetitive.

gtan, pm me if you want to discuss either cam.

 

[fotoworx]

That's absolutely false[I/QUOTE]

No, it's correct. There was no great leap in IQ between the 4 years of the the release of the two models. Anyone buying a 5d3 and being told that the IQ over the 5d2 is going to blow their socks off is being sorely mislead.

 

[ShaneKua]

No, it's correct. There was no great leap in IQ between the 4 years of the the release of the two models. Anyone buying a 5d3 and being told that the IQ over the 5d2 is going to blow their socks off is being sorely mislead.

Clearly we must thus far be talking about different cameras, or looking at different definitions of IQ. I am thus far very pleased with High ISO image quality, where retention of detail in shadow and highlight areas is markedly superior to the 5D2.

At 100-400 ISO, i agree not much difference, but anything above 800… really, this changes the way I can push my limits in events and weddings.

 

[fotoworx]

Clearly we must thus far be talking about different cameras, or looking at different definitions of IQ. I am thus far very pleased with High ISO image quality, where retention of detail in shadow and highlight areas is markedly superior to the 5D2.

At 100-400 ISO, i agree not much difference, but anything above 800… really, this changes the way I can push my limits in events and weddings.

No, we're talking about the same body. And I'll reiterate "Anyone buying a 5d3 and being told that the IQ over the 5d2 is going to blow their socks off is being sorely mislead".

The vast majority of photos are taken by the average user below 800 ISO, the IQ between the 5D2 and 5d3 is indistinguishable.

It's disappointing that Canon couldn't improve this and raise the IQ in four years on the sensor for the 5D3 for what the average photographer shoots.

So once again for posterity -

"Anyone buying a 5d3 and being told that the IQ over the 5d2 is going to blow their socks off is being sorely mislead".