Cheesecake
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rather them than mickey mouse ouchwen!
You'll Never Walk Alone! LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB!! *65* - NEW season, same story?
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rather them than mickey mouse ouchwen!
roadrunner_552
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bobian lar. Seem like 60% still can accept him to be back.
well, can anyone list any striker that can still be signed after transfer deadline last wkend?
oh, apparently there's a rule that says the person muz be registered by tues evening (their time) in order to be available fr now to dec.
else can only play fr jan onwards.
mebbe can juz 4-5-1 since got midfielders..
joke cole can probably last half a game b4 rejoining lucas.
pardon me sir,
have u ever watch the istanbul match?
if ur club allegiance is with other clubs, chk out bro zaren and his club's cup final last season, his club cpt's slip on the spot in the same event a few seasons b4,
sorry, i cant think of any goon match that was like that without going way back in history..
then u'll know why we still can think things can happen..
foreign talent!
roadrunner_552
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Should sign Duric from Sleague. Best striker at his age grp. lol
photo-orama
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They can accept him all they like, but I think I am hearing a lot of people crying with laughter from Newcastle, when scousies expect owen to save us...
roDz
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photo-orama said:
Pls tell this to F$G..they are Gillet & Hick v.2
I think BR & his management team must be dreaming that LFC is Spain national team, can play without striker, thats why we only have Suarez & Borini as our recognise strikers...his tiki-taka thingy is making me nauseous...we dont have Messi, Inniesta & Xavi to start with...
roadrunner_552
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Currently we trying tikam tikam style.
aye, we got allen, gerrard and errh..downing!
work permit probs lah..
sg ranking outside top 75, plus it'll never get approved in time..
sorry, its not a joking matter anymore, we're looking to sign mickey ouchie!
Cheesecake
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looks like Mickey Mouse Ouchwen is heading for Stoke!!! YAYYY!!!
the FSG does not want BR to make any free agent signing and has ordered BR to make do with the young strikers.
I agree. let the 18yos have a go, since we are already so F9. might as well.
the FSG does not want BR to make any free agent signing and has ordered BR to make do with the young strikers.
I agree. let the 18yos have a go, since we are already so F9. might as well.
toxicboy
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We have nothing to lose anyway - it can only improve... I hope!
Cheesecake
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‎[TIMES - Who has the final say in Liverpool transfers?]
- Tony Barrett....
John W. Henry, Liverpool’s principal owner, has attempted to quell anger over the club’s transfer strategy caused by the failure to sign Clint Dempsey by writing an open letter to the fans.
In the letter, which was published on the official Liverpool website yesterday, Henry expressed disappointment that Brendan Rodgers was not able to strengthen his attacking options on transfer deadline day, but insisted that he was not interested in “expensive, short-term fixes”.
The American businessman also detailed the need for Liverpool to recover from the damage done by “previous regimes” and emphasised that the transfer policy that is now in place is designed to provide value for money and to reduce the risk of damage being done to the club’s financial wellbeing.
But there were a number of issues surrounding the decision to allow Andy Carroll to join West Ham United on loan until the end of the season and subsequent failure to recruit Dempsey that Henry failed to address.
Here, The Times examines what the calamitous end to the transfer window tells us about the state of Liverpool and relationships within the club.
Why was Fenway Sports Group (FSG) not prepared to back the judgment of Rodgers on Dempsey?
In one sense, it was. Despite informing Rodgers that Dempsey, 29, was not a suitable target because of his age, it still sanctioned a swap deal that would have resulted in Jordan Henderson joining Fulham in exchange. The problem occurred when Henderson refused the move and the lengths to which FSG would back its manager’s judgment was then put to the test.
In Henry’s opinion, at a cost of about £6 million, Dempsey would have represented the kind of “expensive, short-term fix” that he no longer wants Liverpool to pursue. He did approve an offer of up to £4 million, but it was one that Fulham, who had been so angered by Liverpool’s public interest in the forward that they reported them to the FA for an alleged illegal approach, were never going to accept.
The proposed move was doomed to fail simply because the Liverpool owner did not agree with Rodgers’s valuation of a player that he had identified as a key target.
Who has the final say on transfers at Liverpool?
When Rodgers took the Liverpool manager’s job on the condition that he would not be subordinate to a director of football, it seemed that he had won a significant power battle that would give him the final say on transfers.
Appearances, though, can be deceptive and Liverpool have instead implemented a collegiate director of football model that spreads responsibility through a group of player recruitment specialists and football analysts who work with the manager in identifying targets. David Fallows and Barry Hunter, two senior scouts, have been recruited from Manchester City, although both are on gardening leave, while Michael Edwards, the club’s head of analytics, is becoming an increasingly influential figure at Anfield. The concept is that decisions over players will be made by the group as a whole, rather than by any individual, but the in-built checks and balances can slow transfers down, as was the case with the pursuit of Joe Allen, which was held up by an internal dispute over whether the midfielder was worth the £15 million valuation that Swansea City had placed upon him.
Is Ian Ayre’s position as managing director now under threat?
As the senior official handed the responsibility for negotiating the proposed transfer of Dempsey, it has been widely assumed that Ayre would carry the can for the collapse of the deal. The reality, though, was that the Liverpool-born executive had been handed an impossible task because he did not have the resources necessary to coax Fulham into doing business. All he could do was make an offer that was in keeping with the restrictions that were imposed on by him by his employers and then concede defeat when the bid was turned down.
Suggestions that Rodgers was furious with Ayre as a result are wide of the mark. The pair have a strong working relationship that has not been damaged by the Dempsey shambles. There are no indications that FSG is ready to axe the 49-year-old.
Where does this leave Rodgers’s relationship with FSG?
Strained, but not beyond repair. Rodgers feels that his judgment on Dempsey should have been backed and he is particularly disappointed that he has been left so short of attacking options. For its part, FSG is dissatisfied at what it feels was an attempt by the manager to force it into signing a player whom it had insisted did not fit in with transfer strategy. Henry’s letter was an attempt to put the situation behind them and move on.
- Tony Barrett....
John W. Henry, Liverpool’s principal owner, has attempted to quell anger over the club’s transfer strategy caused by the failure to sign Clint Dempsey by writing an open letter to the fans.
In the letter, which was published on the official Liverpool website yesterday, Henry expressed disappointment that Brendan Rodgers was not able to strengthen his attacking options on transfer deadline day, but insisted that he was not interested in “expensive, short-term fixes”.
The American businessman also detailed the need for Liverpool to recover from the damage done by “previous regimes” and emphasised that the transfer policy that is now in place is designed to provide value for money and to reduce the risk of damage being done to the club’s financial wellbeing.
But there were a number of issues surrounding the decision to allow Andy Carroll to join West Ham United on loan until the end of the season and subsequent failure to recruit Dempsey that Henry failed to address.
Here, The Times examines what the calamitous end to the transfer window tells us about the state of Liverpool and relationships within the club.
Why was Fenway Sports Group (FSG) not prepared to back the judgment of Rodgers on Dempsey?
In one sense, it was. Despite informing Rodgers that Dempsey, 29, was not a suitable target because of his age, it still sanctioned a swap deal that would have resulted in Jordan Henderson joining Fulham in exchange. The problem occurred when Henderson refused the move and the lengths to which FSG would back its manager’s judgment was then put to the test.
In Henry’s opinion, at a cost of about £6 million, Dempsey would have represented the kind of “expensive, short-term fix” that he no longer wants Liverpool to pursue. He did approve an offer of up to £4 million, but it was one that Fulham, who had been so angered by Liverpool’s public interest in the forward that they reported them to the FA for an alleged illegal approach, were never going to accept.
The proposed move was doomed to fail simply because the Liverpool owner did not agree with Rodgers’s valuation of a player that he had identified as a key target.
Who has the final say on transfers at Liverpool?
When Rodgers took the Liverpool manager’s job on the condition that he would not be subordinate to a director of football, it seemed that he had won a significant power battle that would give him the final say on transfers.
Appearances, though, can be deceptive and Liverpool have instead implemented a collegiate director of football model that spreads responsibility through a group of player recruitment specialists and football analysts who work with the manager in identifying targets. David Fallows and Barry Hunter, two senior scouts, have been recruited from Manchester City, although both are on gardening leave, while Michael Edwards, the club’s head of analytics, is becoming an increasingly influential figure at Anfield. The concept is that decisions over players will be made by the group as a whole, rather than by any individual, but the in-built checks and balances can slow transfers down, as was the case with the pursuit of Joe Allen, which was held up by an internal dispute over whether the midfielder was worth the £15 million valuation that Swansea City had placed upon him.
Is Ian Ayre’s position as managing director now under threat?
As the senior official handed the responsibility for negotiating the proposed transfer of Dempsey, it has been widely assumed that Ayre would carry the can for the collapse of the deal. The reality, though, was that the Liverpool-born executive had been handed an impossible task because he did not have the resources necessary to coax Fulham into doing business. All he could do was make an offer that was in keeping with the restrictions that were imposed on by him by his employers and then concede defeat when the bid was turned down.
Suggestions that Rodgers was furious with Ayre as a result are wide of the mark. The pair have a strong working relationship that has not been damaged by the Dempsey shambles. There are no indications that FSG is ready to axe the 49-year-old.
Where does this leave Rodgers’s relationship with FSG?
Strained, but not beyond repair. Rodgers feels that his judgment on Dempsey should have been backed and he is particularly disappointed that he has been left so short of attacking options. For its part, FSG is dissatisfied at what it feels was an attempt by the manager to force it into signing a player whom it had insisted did not fit in with transfer strategy. Henry’s letter was an attempt to put the situation behind them and move on.
Cheesecake
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we r being played out by our owners.
jus like hicks n gillett. wahahahahahahahaha
different owners same story! :bsmilie:
jus like hicks n gillett. wahahahahahahahaha
different owners same story! :bsmilie:
blazer_workz
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Yeah! let the youngsters play more..if they played badly, its grooming talent, if they played well, then its creation of talent..
S.G. is getting older..we need new legends! LOL
S.G. is getting older..we need new legends! LOL
I think we will need to give them time. We do not want to spend beyond our means and not go bust!
I seriously think our players have to take a long hard look at themselves and decide whether they deserve to play for LFC, performance has been awful. BR should drop SG and Reina to issue warning.
roadrunner_552
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Ya some or most of the players didn't perform up to expectation. Why a mid or lower team can play better? Its all mentally.
MichaelLee
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no back up for carroll and we could not score...okie...
wat to justify we are leaking goal and become laughing stock ...
just because we dun have backup for carroll, we are now in relegation zone ? never tot carrol is so important and that much of impact to the team...
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