would you let strangers touch your baby?

[daredevil123]

agree with Octarine

back at my era, where got such thing one....now people scare of disease and stuff...so paranoid....simi misunderstanding....

thanks to the internet. ...

Back in the day, kampong spirit is much more stronger, and people will take care of each other and voice out. Back in the day, crime syndicates did not realize kidnapping children can yield so much profit. back in the day there are less cars around, kids play in much safer environments. Back in the day syndicates are local. where there is some twisted decency and honor left where they will not touch women and children.

Times have changed.

 

[Octarine]

Yes, in old days, not as many virus/germ around.
But nowadays they are too many virus/germ that may cause serious problem. I still believe if you keep good hygiene, you will have healthier body.

Wrong. The amount of viruses and germs is the same as 50 years ago.
What has changed is the paranoia around them. I agree to some basic levels of hygiene, the very same that our grandparents got taught. But when I see people running around with sanitizers I'm having a few doubts.
What has changed is the amount of virus strains and bacteria that have become immune to the standard antibiotics and other treatments (multiple drug resistance).

 

[silencer13]

Wrong. The amount of viruses and germs is the same as 50 years ago.
What has changed is the paranoia around them. I agree to some basic levels of hygiene, the very same that our grandparents got taught. But when I see people running around with sanitizers I'm having a few doubts.
What has changed is the amount of virus strains and bacteria that have become immune to the standard antibiotics and other treatments (multiple drug resistance).

Super like!

 

[9V-Orion Images]

Yes, in old days, not as many virus/germ around.
But nowadays they are too many virus/germ that may cause serious problem. I still believe if you keep good hygiene, you will have healthier body.

In-house medical doctor will like to send a friendly reminder that under the model of "hygiene hypothesis", parents may possibly be predisposing their kids to possible allergic hypersensitivity reactions resulting in an "allergic triad" of chronic syndromes such as atopic asthma, atopic dermatitis, atopic conjunctivitis, atopic rhinitis, etc. etc as they mature due to an overreactive immune system.

 

[sunnycamera]

big no no,

primarily reason is germs, stranger with ill intension is big concern for parents, you never know.

for 1st child, all parents will scare out if bad things happened later after the stranger,

but of course, the situation and conditions and that people's dress code play a big part on whether you will get angry or let it go.

secondary main reason is, I dont feel like being touched on face and head when i was like 5-6 year old, it is just irritating

 

[armadillo]

Wrong. The amount of viruses and germs is the same as 50 years ago.
What has changed is the paranoia around them. I agree to some basic levels of hygiene, the very same that our grandparents got taught. But when I see people running around with sanitizers I'm having a few doubts.
What has changed is the amount of virus strains and bacteria that have become immune to the standard antibiotics and other treatments (multiple drug resistance).

Ok, I'm not sure 50 years ago, but 20 years ago, we never heard of viruses like SARS, MERS, H1N1, H1N5, H1N9, etc...

 

[Octarine]

Ok, I'm not sure 50 years ago, but 20 years ago, we never heard of viruses like SARS, MERS, H1N1, H1N5, H1N9, etc...

Just because we (=mankind) did not have a name for it does not mean these viruses did not exist. Have a look at the 'Spanish Influenca' that killed millions early in the 20th century. Scientists see a clear link to todays virus strains starting with H1... Viruses are one of the most simple life forms (let's put aside the defintions here for now), likely they were among the very first things that lived here on this big lump of rock that we call Earth.
The word 'syndrome' describes a variety of different symptomes with (probably) similar root cause. Today it is also used for easier communication in the news, instead of using all the medical lingo. Most politicians need it simple and handy
Half a century ago, the lack of fast communication and specialist available onsite also meant that a lot of such diseases went unnoticed, especially if they happended in rural or isolated areas. On top of that, the political situation in some areas of the world clearly forbid the revealing of any strange, unknown and/or epidemic disease (Cold War).

 

[Silas]

So i came across this the other day.

http://www.timothytiah.com/2014/09/...nyones-baby-without-permission/#disqus_thread

I was shocked because i didn't know that a parent would react so vicerally to people touching their kids(not in that way....) I myself would sometimes hold the hands or pinch the cheeks of random babies who are in the same lift as me and now im paranoid of parents suddenly losing their **** at me.

So just wondering if Anyone here shares the authors views? I personally thinks that he might be overreacting but what do you guys think?

Well, if you think that the author over-reacted just look at it this way, refer to the 2 senarios below.

Senario 1
You are an adult. I am an adult. I take the same lift with you. I think you are cute, I hold your hands, i pinch your cheeks, i pat your head. Now tell me how would you feel, how would you react?
A baby is a sentient being like any adult. You should respect his/her rights as a person and not suka suka touch touch play play. A baby has no means to say "No! dun touch me" to your face but you can and adults can....so does it make you more of a human than a baby that you can disregard a baby's feelings or rights?

Senario 2
You are a parent of a baby that has very sensitive skin, who tends to get rashes on the face when people touch it. Your baby has an allergy to a certain chemical in hand soap. A stranger rides the lift with you and your baby. The stranger pinches your child's chubby cheeks. How would you feel and how would you react? As much as anybody likes or wants to socialize with a baby, the person should ask for permission and respect the reply because you may cause a allergic reaction or pass some contagious disease to the baby. As much as you think that you have washed or sterilized your hands, you don't know if the baby has any medical condition which would make it vulnerable to a stranger's touch.

Hope you get my drift. Well, if i ride the lift with you and you pinch my child's cheeks. I will substitute the "i" in the word pinch with an "u" and do it to your face. Then i will call the police to arrest you for molesting my child because i wouldn't know if you are a pedophile or not.

 

[nitewalk]

Anyway, the baby is not a toy. Just like we don't anyhow touch a stranger, the baby is also a human.

 

[kandinsky]

Well, if i ride the lift with you and you pinch my child's cheeks. I will substitute the "i" in the word pinch with an "u" and do it to your face.

A pinch for a pinch :bsmilie:

 

[edutilos-]

I don't think it's the best thing to say: "you won't touch my phone without my permission, so you shouldn't touch my baby without my permission either". Don't think it has anything to do with germs either. It's just mutual respect to acknowledge that the kid's guardian/parent is present before actually proceeding to do whatever you do. Everyone has different tolerance levels, so asking nicely if you REALLY must play with the kid won't hurt after all.

 

[sammy888]

http://www.pinterest.com/coldsnapstudio/no-touching-baby-signs/

Also in some countries.. you might be mistaken or accused of molestation especially if you are male. To some extend even taking photos of kids can be seen as some immoral reason you are taking little kids photos by some warped minded parent. heh Germs of whatever.. Best to keep your hands to yourself or at least ask permission first.

 

[saberlancer]

I will Not be ok with stranger pinching my kids cheeks. No touching. Its basic courtesy & respect..

 

[photogenius]

personally, if the stranger looks proper and friendly then its fine IMHO.

 

[Fudgecakes]

A pinch for a pinch :bsmilie:

+1 😂😂

 

[keithwee]

Think what we have now all boils to one main perspective which is common sense: Always ask for permission first

True life story to make your day:

Was eating at a restaurant with parents in law when my MIL suddenly declared my kid was uncomfortable with me holding her on my lap. Everyone at the table disagreed with her. She then stood up, walked over , snatched the kid from my arms without asking and walked out of the restaurant out of my sight. My wife had to chase after her and I am still very perturbed today about it, 3 days after what happened.

Point is: Even between family members there can be issues, what more between a total stranger?

 

[sammy888]

Studies and statics collected on victims of sexual child abuse in western countries shows that culprits are committed by a BIG percentage of family members/relatives followed by acquaintances and lastly with the lowest percentage being strangers.

With respect to someone who flinch on how uncomfortable they are with a child being on a male's lap could indicate something that happen to them in their past in a similar position or have been told of such scenarios thus the uncomfortable reaction they feel. Especially overseas I am very careful as a guy when I take photos of kids. I have been told off and that was not like just me alone. I recall a couple who has adopted two black girls along with a white girl ( all about age 2 -3 yrs old) who were really cute that a few people including myself just want to take a snap of it. We (including a few other ladies) all got our heads snap off by the father very loudly and with some strong language used. That is just one case and I had experienced many others. Since then I am very sensitive to ever taking photos of children without parents permission left alone touch one. Google and read up on how hard it is to defend yourself as a male if someone accuse you of being a sexual perpetrator... your word against a parent .. you lose most of the time (with guys, guilty till proven innocent)... be it for real, accidental mistaken that you are acting so or worst blackmail for money. Locally I think we are still not so paranoid yet.

Not worth it even how cute the child might be .. I will not touch.

 

[nitewalk]

Think what we have now all boils to one main perspective which is common sense: Always ask for permission first True life story to make your day: Was eating at a restaurant with parents in law when my MIL suddenly declared my kid was uncomfortable with me holding her on my lap. Everyone at the table disagreed with her. She then stood up, walked over , snatched the kid from my arms without asking and walked out of the restaurant out of my sight. My wife had to chase after her and I am still very perturbed today about it, 3 days after what happened. Point is: Even between family members there can be issues, what more between a total stranger?

Wow. How not to lose your cool with that man.