Why is pany 12-35f2.8 equivalent to ff f5.6?


You can do blurring in post processing if that is what you want. But you cannot make something sharp if it is already out of focus.

yes of cos! personally if i want background blur, i'ld rather get it out of the camera, PP each photo can be really time consuming.
 

To me bro these are facts of life not only in the interchangeble systems but to almost anything we compare apple to apple or even apple to orange. For use to do is to educate new fellow members how to read those so called numbers and facts. A very good example is this thread. I think even us are guilty of that sometimes if not most of the times :-)

So lets now add fuel to the flame and just educate ppl how to read the facts/numbers :-). A very good example are the most response of fellow 4/3 or m4/3 in this thread :-)

peace :-)


I am just offering alternative views to TS than to talk about the endless technical side of the equipment, which sometimes make no sense at all (bokeh, bokeh and bokeh for example). To me, it is always faster, lighter and cheaper, which somehow the m43 did that for me.

I even used the slow and useless 12-50 to shoot street soccer for my colleague recently, turns out not bad IMO. With the 35-100 and 12-35 it will be awesome.
 

theITguy said:
I am just offering alternative views to TS than to talk about the endless technical side of the equipment, which sometimes make no sense at all (bokeh, bokeh and bokeh for example). To me, it is always faster, lighter and cheaper, which somehow the m43 did that for me.

I even used the slow and useless 12-50 to shoot street soccer for my colleague recently, turns out not bad IMO. With the 35-100 and 12-35 it will be awesome.

Agree bro it's majority the one behind the camera that controls :-) the tools :-). I too used the mzuiko 12-42 on some macro shots and it's awesome also.

Cheers!
 

Most important is after all the contribution regarding DOF, I hope the TS will get better pictures :-)
DOF is not just the aperture vs "equivalent" , focal length of the lens and the distance between subject and background play a part too.
Best is go out and shoot with m4/3. The benchmark is always 35mm but whats the use? m4/3 can never be a 35mm FF. But I know m4/3 is capable.:-)
 

JW73 said:
Most important is after all the contribution regarding DOF, I hope the TS will get better pictures :-)
DOF is not just the aperture vs "equivalent" , focal length of the lens and the distance between subject and background play a part too.
Best is go out and shoot with m4/3. The benchmark is always 35mm but whats the use? m4/3 can never be a 35mm FF. But I know m4/3 is capable.:-)

Yep so far i am using two system apsc and m4/3 and in most cases my friends cant tell which was taken by m4/3 and my apsc :-) i even used my EP3 + PL25mm f1.4 on a wedding shoot and taken a lot of awesome portraits :-)
 

trd2970 said:
yes of cos! personally if i want background blur, i'ld rather get it out of the camera, PP each photo can be really time consuming.

Ahhh ok. If you want bokeh in many shots, then you shd invest in 135 ff and not 4/3. For me I rarely if ever crave for bokeh. I prefer details and sharpness. I hv never ever blurred any photo in post to get more bokeh.

Actually i already find that f1.4 and f2 on 4/3 dof a little to thin for my liking already. So i just dun see the need for even thinner dof. So for me, there is just no need to go full frame. Plus the heft and the cost of 135 full frame, makes full frame even more undesirable for the kind of photography that i do.
 

DoF to me is just one tool of making a picture. It's nice to have sometimes, but yeah sometimes you want to have as much of the scene in focus.

The only real problem with M43 is that there's of course a theoretical limit to how much tones and detail you can capture before you run up to the limits of the sensor size. This is why 35mm sensors, much less medium format, can produce imagines that have richer tonality etc. due to their larger sensor size (with the right lens of course). It is a question of information compression after all.
 

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