Why did you choose Sony/Minolta over the others?
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greenieadi
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The key word is MINOLTA ... not Sony ... Nikon ... Canon ... Pentax ... etc ...
Yeah..............like.no.other in-body anti-shake......though not quite unique to the system anymore.
Anyway, I used to own the Panny FZ5 and really believes in the in-body AS thingie. Found out then Minolta had such a technology for their DSLR when I was out recce for one.
One thing for sure Canon and Nikon won't follow this path....
To be frank, i only learn of the existence of ALPHA late last year and i am ''hooked'' to it even till today. ''hooked'' to their design, their build in IS, thier LV and their wide range of lenses. Though ALPHA is new to the DSLR market, but it comes from SONY.. and i believe i can trust SONY
To be frank, i only learn of the existence of ALPHA late last year and i am ''hooked'' to it even till today. ''hooked'' to their design, their build in IS, thier LV and their wide range of lenses. Though ALPHA is new to the DSLR market, but it comes from SONY.. and i believe i can trust SONY
They're not that new... Remember, they took over Minolta.
My view is that pricing can be more competitive. Not just the bodies but lenses too. Who wants to buy 3rd party lenses if Sony has all those that we want and at a reasonable price?
To a photographer, before I decide to buy any system, I look at their entire range of bodies and lenses. In fact, I look more at lenses than bodies (and I always prefer own brand lenses than 3rd party if possible).
One look and it's difficult to convince people on Sony. You may say the Minolta has a long heritage in photography as well but eversince the takeover, Minolta literally disappeared. How many knows that Minolta is bought by Sony these days?
Sony expects the new photographers/novices to know? The answer's no......coupled with high prices, it's a wonder why sony still has customers buying DSLR. It's not like Minolta's going to turn the tables but I feel that letting/educating people on the heritage/origin of Sony DSLR is important. This should take place with reasonable price cuts to bring prices in the region to the same level.
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To a photographer, before I decide to buy any system, I look at their entire range of bodies and lenses. In fact, I look more at lenses than bodies (and I always prefer own brand lenses than 3rd party if possible).
One look and it's difficult to convince people on Sony. You may say the Minolta has a long heritage in photography as well but eversince the takeover, Minolta literally disappeared. How many knows that Minolta is bought by Sony these days?
Sony expects the new photographers/novices to know? The answer's no......coupled with high prices, it's a wonder why sony still has customers buying DSLR. It's not like Minolta's going to turn the tables but I feel that letting/educating people on the heritage/origin of Sony DSLR is important. This should take place with reasonable price cuts to bring prices in the region to the same level.
My 2 cents
I will keep shooting with my obsolete KM 5D till it can shoot no more. Then I'll lock it up with its Minolta lenses and have my own little private Minolta museum. 
Not a big fan of Sony products though it has taken over the Minolta legacy. Been bitten one too many times by faulty Sony products after purchasing them.
Will probably switch to one of its competitors ... though it's not Nikon, Canon or Olympus.
Not a big fan of Sony products though it has taken over the Minolta legacy. Been bitten one too many times by faulty Sony products after purchasing them.
Will probably switch to one of its competitors ... though it's not Nikon, Canon or Olympus.
I picked Minolta cos of the fantastic user interface on the 7... and then the 7D cos of the fantastic JPEG colours... and of course the continued superb user interface... the A700 continues in that tradition although I have not yet decided to upgrade...
The worse interface is Canon's... I have used briefly a D60, 30D, 40D, 1DMkII, briefly touched a 1DMkIII... it was pretty difficult to change stuff like ISO intuitively without me asking the owner what to do or to do exposure compensation, flash compensation, etc... so I pretty much gave up on Canon... colours are also very flat... they have a very conservative saturation curve applied in camera... very tough to get back the beautiful saturated colours...
The interface that can rival Minolta's are the current crop of Nikons... the new D300 and D3 from what I can see from the reviews and pictures look quite similar...
I have tried a Panasonic megazoom, LZ-28 or something like that... very poor interface...
I have tried the Olympus E-500 belonging to my friend and shot with it for a while one evening... equally bad interface as the Panasonic... makes you feel you're not using a DSLR... really interesting that one... also very small, difficult to hold comfortably... might have been better with a grip though...
But nothing still beats quickNavi on the A700... I mean whoa! You've got direct access to almost all functions, no need to remember any shortcuts, no need to read the manual... just press, scroll and change any setting on the camera... I mean how difficult is that?
That's also why I dislike P&S digicams... u need 4-6 buttons presses to change ISO... etc... but then again, the SONY W300 seems really cool! But I think the W150/170 is more in line with my wallet size...
The worse interface is Canon's... I have used briefly a D60, 30D, 40D, 1DMkII, briefly touched a 1DMkIII... it was pretty difficult to change stuff like ISO intuitively without me asking the owner what to do or to do exposure compensation, flash compensation, etc... so I pretty much gave up on Canon... colours are also very flat... they have a very conservative saturation curve applied in camera... very tough to get back the beautiful saturated colours...
The interface that can rival Minolta's are the current crop of Nikons... the new D300 and D3 from what I can see from the reviews and pictures look quite similar...
I have tried a Panasonic megazoom, LZ-28 or something like that... very poor interface...
I have tried the Olympus E-500 belonging to my friend and shot with it for a while one evening... equally bad interface as the Panasonic... makes you feel you're not using a DSLR... really interesting that one... also very small, difficult to hold comfortably... might have been better with a grip though...
But nothing still beats quickNavi on the A700... I mean whoa! You've got direct access to almost all functions, no need to remember any shortcuts, no need to read the manual... just press, scroll and change any setting on the camera... I mean how difficult is that?
That's also why I dislike P&S digicams... u need 4-6 buttons presses to change ISO... etc... but then again, the SONY W300 seems really cool! But I think the W150/170 is more in line with my wallet size...
I only chose KMinolta becoz of Menu, colors, Built in AS, body grip, buttons etc..
The deciding factor is the color because I am a noob in PS.. :bsmilie: so if sony comes out as good colors as KM, it would be good for me to upgrade. But for now, it's a nono..
The colours are good what!
Galdor
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I will keep shooting with my obsolete KM 5D till it can shoot no more. Then I'll lock it up with its Minolta lenses and have my own little private Minolta museum.
Not a big fan of Sony products though it has taken over the Minolta legacy. Been bitten one too many times by faulty Sony products after purchasing them.
Will probably switch to one of its competitors ... though it's not Nikon, Canon or Olympus.
Join me in the Sigma camp then. Very exclusive. :bsmilie:
Galdor
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I only chose KMinolta becoz of Menu, colors, Built in AS, body grip, buttons etc..
The deciding factor is the color because I am a noob in PS.. :bsmilie: so if sony comes out as good colors as KM, it would be good for me to upgrade. But for now, it's a nono..
Go for the CCD sensor if you want nicer colours. Colours from the CMOS looks very flat and I'm very noob in PS too. :embrass:
stubertsg
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I took my first step in DSLR photography last year and not wanting to spend too much on a DSLR in case my passion fade off.
I search the net for the best entry level DSLR..I also compared the photos taken by the few competitors.
Okie...camera is just a camera i concluded, the man behind it makes the whole diff.
I bought the with SONY ALPHA 100. best value for money at that time
Anyway the "camera is just a camera" thought is fadding....I wanna upgrade to A700 now.
I search the net for the best entry level DSLR..I also compared the photos taken by the few competitors.
Okie...camera is just a camera i concluded, the man behind it makes the whole diff.
I bought the with SONY ALPHA 100. best value for money at that time
Anyway the "camera is just a camera" thought is fadding....I wanna upgrade to A700 now.
"To a photographer, before I decide to buy any system, I look at their entire range of bodies and lenses. In fact, I look more at lenses than bodies (and I always prefer own brand lenses than 3rd party if possible)"
since you look into lenses also won't you know that those great minolta AF lenses can also be used on sony bodies. Plus 3rd party manufacturer like Tamron is partially sony owned with optical design similar to sony lenses?
"Sony expects the new photographers/novices to know? The answer's no......coupled with high prices, it's a wonder why sony still has customers buying DSLR. It's not like Minolta's going to turn the tables but I feel that letting/educating people on the heritage/origin of Sony DSLR is important. This should take place with reasonable price cuts to bring prices in the region to the same level"
aint prices of sony DSLR affordable @ the moment with the lowest end A200 going for below $1k. you must also not forget that in the C/N camp there's a need to spend more on IS/VR lens so in the end you're spending more overall
since you look into lenses also won't you know that those great minolta AF lenses can also be used on sony bodies. Plus 3rd party manufacturer like Tamron is partially sony owned with optical design similar to sony lenses?
"Sony expects the new photographers/novices to know? The answer's no......coupled with high prices, it's a wonder why sony still has customers buying DSLR. It's not like Minolta's going to turn the tables but I feel that letting/educating people on the heritage/origin of Sony DSLR is important. This should take place with reasonable price cuts to bring prices in the region to the same level"
aint prices of sony DSLR affordable @ the moment with the lowest end A200 going for below $1k. you must also not forget that in the C/N camp there's a need to spend more on IS/VR lens so in the end you're spending more overall
Is it really more expensive to buy IS/VR lens as compared to non-stabilized lens for SSS bodies?
Nikon AF-S 55-200mm VR: $375~$410) | $410 (John, Sep07 - Amaury) | $375 (CP, Feb08 - khaiseng)
Canon EF-S 55-250mm IS: CP-M $370 / CP-P $370 / OP $360 / MS $360 / AP-S $342 (grey incl. GST)
Sony 55-200mm: $399
Nikon AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 VR: $2750 (Lord's, Oct06 - JCantemprate) | $2600 (Grey, TCW, Aug06 - william_wwong) | $2800 (CP-M, Nov07 - Clement Low)
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM: RS$3,900 - CP $2,910 / MS $3,070 / TCW $2,680 / AP $2,888 / JO $2950 / OP $2650 / TK $2900
Sony 70-200mm f/2.8: $3699
Sony's non VR/IS lenses don't seem any cheaper to me at all.
Well but of course, you're comparing to Sony Singapore prices too.
Gotta wait for C/N to release a few more IS/VR lens to see if they're really more expensive.
At the moment, I dont believe that having in body IS/VR/SSS is going to make the stabilized lenses any cheaper. just some marketing gimmick i assume.
And even if i save on the stabilized lenses, i get sucked dry with their accessories *rolls eye*
BUT.... i am still a happy alpha user haha!
for Sony 70-200mm f/2.8, if you can get from HK, it's less than 3K (can convert to Singapore Warranty some more), if compare pricing in HK with other, some of the pricing of the lenses are in fact cheaper. It's only in Singapore, they priced it so expensive only.
But people here still can get lens at reasonable price through MO.
But people here still can get lens at reasonable price through MO.
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