Who's planning to get the GH1?
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G.D.I.!!! When is the GH1 coming to our shore man?!
How I see on the different levels (don't take it too seriously):
Entry level - $ (below 1000 bucks)
Medium level - $$ (between 1001 - 2000 bucks)
Advanced level - $$$ (between 20001 - 3000 bucks)
Pro level - $$$$ (3001 bucks and above)
Based on pricing without lens kit, GH1 is advanced level.
How I see on the different levels (don't take it too seriously):
Entry level - $ (below 1000 bucks)
Medium level - $$ (between 1001 - 2000 bucks)
Advanced level - $$$ (between 20001 - 3000 bucks)
Pro level - $$$$ (3001 bucks and above)
Based on pricing without lens kit, GH1 is advanced level.
Already said don't take it seriously.
GH1 is built with entry level in mind. The physical size spec alone is already an indicator. Anyhow, read these press releases:
Dated March 3, 2009 and
Dated May 6, 2009
They stated clearly that it's easy enuff from entry-level users with all the specs and capabilities thrown in. However refrains from stating the GH1 as a mid-level digital camera.
Pentax K-7 is a mid-level DSLR. In terms of specs, it will put GH1 as an entry level.
Actually all these levels are really misleading. It's better to categorise as consumer, pro-consumer and pro digital cameras for amateur, intermediate or professional photographers. GH1 is a pro-consumer digital camera. Then again, the lines do get blur many times too.
Well, I always said, it's the carpenter, not the tools. However, expensive tools can project a carpenter as a pro too. All that matter is how the furniture turns out.
GH1 is built with entry level in mind. The physical size spec alone is already an indicator. Anyhow, read these press releases:
Dated March 3, 2009 and
Dated May 6, 2009
They stated clearly that it's easy enuff from entry-level users with all the specs and capabilities thrown in. However refrains from stating the GH1 as a mid-level digital camera.
Pentax K-7 is a mid-level DSLR. In terms of specs, it will put GH1 as an entry level.
Actually all these levels are really misleading. It's better to categorise as consumer, pro-consumer and pro digital cameras for amateur, intermediate or professional photographers. GH1 is a pro-consumer digital camera. Then again, the lines do get blur many times too.
Well, I always said, it's the carpenter, not the tools. However, expensive tools can project a carpenter as a pro too. All that matter is how the furniture turns out.
chooz
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Quote: Well, I always said, it's the carpenter, not the tools. However, expensive tools can project a carpenter as a pro too. All that matter is how the furniture turns out.
Well said, Bro!
I read the specs and found that it is not exactly mid-level but the price is very high. So I thought I want to confirm by asking here.
Anyway, it seems like a high price to pay for the novelty of a small (not so small) m4/3 dSLR and a very compact zoom lens with video function. Which part of it do you think justify for the high price?
Well said, Bro!
I read the specs and found that it is not exactly mid-level but the price is very high. So I thought I want to confirm by asking here.
Anyway, it seems like a high price to pay for the novelty of a small (not so small) m4/3 dSLR and a very compact zoom lens with video function. Which part of it do you think justify for the high price?
That's why I came out up the price joke. Honestly, I can't justify for the manufacturer. As a consumer, the GH1 a tad too high on pricing.
Mirror a.k.a SLR technology is so yesterday. I never consider a DSLR in my life. Yup, I don't own a DSLR. I have two SLRs that I haven't fired a single shot for more than a decade. Most of the times, I use a digital camera i.e. my trusty Nikon CoolPix 5000. I do have the pro skills but I hardly practice.
Back to GH1. I was expecting about 2K for the whole kit. It's 500 bucks more than expected. My CP5K is like 7-8 years old and cost like 1,5K then. As technology is improving, prices have also declined. Considering my CP5K pretty much does what the GH1 can do except for interchange lens and higher megapixel. I can't find any point-and-shot digital camera that does BULB nowadays.
2,5K for GH1. Obviously compact size, interchangeable lens and HD video. If G1 w lens is 1,5K (need to check again), paying 1000 bucks more for HD video is like a rip-off. Then again, GH1 does it so beautiful. But 500 bucks upgrade is justifiable. Not 1K.
Mirror a.k.a SLR technology is so yesterday. I never consider a DSLR in my life. Yup, I don't own a DSLR. I have two SLRs that I haven't fired a single shot for more than a decade. Most of the times, I use a digital camera i.e. my trusty Nikon CoolPix 5000. I do have the pro skills but I hardly practice.
Back to GH1. I was expecting about 2K for the whole kit. It's 500 bucks more than expected. My CP5K is like 7-8 years old and cost like 1,5K then. As technology is improving, prices have also declined. Considering my CP5K pretty much does what the GH1 can do except for interchange lens and higher megapixel. I can't find any point-and-shot digital camera that does BULB nowadays.
2,5K for GH1. Obviously compact size, interchangeable lens and HD video. If G1 w lens is 1,5K (need to check again), paying 1000 bucks more for HD video is like a rip-off. Then again, GH1 does it so beautiful. But 500 bucks upgrade is justifiable. Not 1K.
GH1 in already? Went to Panasonic Singapore website - nothing on it. BTW, which shop? If it's in, I may swing by the weekend to see, see, look, look first. Need to get pricing and availability on its accessories and lenses. Will get all when they are all in. One time pain better than bit by bit. Hee, hee.
It's not for everyone. It's all about figuring out your priorities, and seeing what's available within your budget.
What is important to you?
- still image quality vs SD/HD video vs FHD video
- still camera + video camera vs hybrid camera
- sensor size, low light performance, interchangeable lenses, size & weight
- choice of auto and manual controls in still and video modes
If a FHD hybrid camera is not high in your priorities, some of the innovations that make the 14-140 lens uniquely suited to the GH1 will be useless to you, and you will find the GH1 price unjustified.
Also, I have no doubt that the still image specs of the GH1 do not match up with some of its cheaper cousins. What do you consider to be entry-level DSLR specs, and what are you willing to accept?
P.S. I was at Parisilk HV yesteday and they claimed that yesterday was the GH1 launch date, with stocks and pricing information coming in next week.
What is important to you?
- still image quality vs SD/HD video vs FHD video
- still camera + video camera vs hybrid camera
- sensor size, low light performance, interchangeable lenses, size & weight
- choice of auto and manual controls in still and video modes
If a FHD hybrid camera is not high in your priorities, some of the innovations that make the 14-140 lens uniquely suited to the GH1 will be useless to you, and you will find the GH1 price unjustified.
Also, I have no doubt that the still image specs of the GH1 do not match up with some of its cheaper cousins. What do you consider to be entry-level DSLR specs, and what are you willing to accept?
P.S. I was at Parisilk HV yesteday and they claimed that yesterday was the GH1 launch date, with stocks and pricing information coming in next week.
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raymondluo
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The price on the GH1 is steep, considering the competition. But for what it offers for video enthusiasts- (interchangeable lenses and the only 'vdslr' that offers an articulating lcd, 24p and 60p recording- which is great for slow-motion captures) is a smart price point on a 'i'm the only one who has this' standpoint.
However, my consumer opinion disapproves of such reasoning to pay a premium for it. (Unless the issues regarding the AVCHD codec has been fixed from the firmware update)
However, my consumer opinion disapproves of such reasoning to pay a premium for it. (Unless the issues regarding the AVCHD codec has been fixed from the firmware update)
Which AVCHD codec issues are you referring to?
I don't think it was addressed in the last firmware update (http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/dsc/download/fts/dl/gh1.html)
I don't think it was addressed in the last firmware update (http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/dsc/download/fts/dl/gh1.html)
raymondluo
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Poor implementation of the AVCHD Codec, which frequently breaks the image apart or cause 'mud' during pans or when moving the camera around. This points to the poor bitrate transfer 17Mbps.
Though the 720p60 is robust for this, it pretty much makes the 1080p option useless even if it offers the highly sought after 24p. Also, at 2.4k I would really be expecting 24Mbps, something canon and sony has already achieved with their AVCHD camcorders.
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I pretty much know what the GH1 can do. There's one feature I'm curious about. Where exactly is the BULB mode? I asked the shops about it before on the G1 and no one could tell me exactly where to find it. No joke. I was toying around the G1 in show tech show and I couldn't find it either. But the specs did say that BULB is available.
I pretty much know what the GH1 can do. There's one feature I'm curious about. Where exactly is the BULB mode? I asked the shops about it before on the G1 and no one could tell me exactly where to find it. No joke. I was toying around the G1 in show tech show and I couldn't find it either. But the specs did say that BULB is available.
I know the BULB mode for the GH1 is up to 4 minutes. As for the G1, the last time I toyed with it, I seriously couldn't find it under manual mode via shutter setting. Gotta check again with the GH1 when I toy with it. Geez! Why must they hide such an important feature?! Oh okay, I know most people don't really shoot in B mode.
No IR remote control. Ouch.
No IR remote control. Ouch.
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