Which shop offers a better price and good customer service?

Which shop offers a better price and good customer service?


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Recently I went to Cathay Photo @ Marina Sq. I was browsing for straps and when one of the staff approached me, he immediately recommended me the BlackRapid R-strap without asking me what camera I am using, citing that particular strap as what everyone is using, etc.

I was quite disappointed that his recommendations did NOT come after factoring what camera model I was using and hence what may be suitable, and if he had known my camera model, perhaps he can better recommend me what straps other owners of the same camera model has purchased.

Besides, there are quite a few Optech strap hung up also, instantly recommending the $89 R-strap to me wasn't very nice...I'm sure some of the optech straps are as nice too.

Anyway I'm using the LX3 and I tink the width of the R-strap will not slot through the metal loops.

Btw, I'm pretty satisfied with staff/service @ the Peninsula branch, though.
R-strap for LX3 is indeed an overkill. However, the tripod connector that the R-Strap has will fit all camera's tripod mount.

R-Strap is more for dSLRs. As mentioned above, using the tripod connector will fit all types of cameras so in a sense the sales guys is not wrong technically that R-Strap will fit any types of cameras as long as it has a tripod mount.
 

for service, definitely John 3:16. yes for mid range price items, they usually charge ard $20 more. but sometimes i take it that it's paying for gd service and ease of mind. they've also ever offered me advice even though i've not bought anything.

i've always heard of AP-Funan as one of the more reputable shops. but after a recent experience, im never going back. sharing this lest u guys face the same prob. one salesman actually tried to sell me a grey tamron lens, and claimed that the warranty was 1 yr international warranty. when i asked 'isn't the tamron warranty in Singapore 3 years', he pretend to think about it and said 'no if i remember correct tamron only one year'. i soon realised it was a 1 yr shop warranty, and the salesman then went on to say 'but i thought i already told u its not international warranty. u want international u pay more' ... bah. its ok if they wanna sell grey sets, but at least do it ethically and the right way by letting their customers know. its one thing being unfriendly, or selling at more expensive price, but its another thing doing things unethically, especially from a so called reputable shop.
 

I was looking for a camera bag and happens to went into a shop names K-13 marketing in Peninsula Plaza.
They looks to have quite a good range of bags, like lowepro, tamrac, kata, vanguard,...
Any advise whether their price are reasonable ?
Thanks !

so~so.. it's a ilttle higher than other shops, and they're sticky about their prices. but ive seen them cut their prices after a short drawn negotiation. depends on what you buy.
 

where is john 3:16 shop?

HAd bad bad experiences with 3:16.

Multiple trips and calls...wrong price, long wait and finally, nothing to show for. :thumbsd:
Sigh..

Regards
 

got all me gear from MSCOLOR too.. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

i've bought stuff from both ms colour and john 3:16

in my experience john 3:16 gets my vote. they are friendly and they gave me a really good price for my first DSLR.

on the other hand at ms colour, other than florence and sharon the rest of the staff isn't exactly friendly. i get particularly turned off by the younger lady staff who just stands there and stare at me rather condescendingly. if it was once, i'd probably say it's just me. but a few more times? tsk tsk.
 

Got my equipment from CP.

Yes MS Colour is good. But seems like only to its regulars. CP price maybe a little higher. But during the purchase, the service attitude is kinda important too. No one likes a black face salesman.
 

Disappointed by MS Colour today ... the one next to S11 ...

was approched by an older sales lady ......

asked her , do you sell Markins ?
then she stare at me.
then i said the ball head.
then she give me another blank stare....
"feel like i asking something stupid"

then as i was looking for underwater casing for my compact.
i asked , do you have underwater casings ?
then she say , original or 3rd party ?
i say whats the difference, she just say , price ...
then i ask her what brand you referring to ?
then she give me an irritated look ....
...theni just ask afew more questions and left .... and she gave a grin(like saying good riddens) ...

feel like is i keep asking her stupid questions... @#$%
waste my time.
 

J3:16- price always on the high side, but the good thing is they don't push you to buy and are really friendly. Not sure why though, but they seem to be pro-canon and anti-nikon.:bsmilie:

CP(penisular)- Price good. Service good too, never rude or dao. So far, they gave me the best price for d90 body and tamron 17-50. Today I went to get a blower and the lady even ran out of the shop after me just to pass me the receipt which I had forgotten to take- for a $10 sales.:thumbsup:

TCW- Tried to con me into buying a d90 body which the old man claim is a local set when its in fact a grey set. Heng I saw the Japan warranty card while testing. Asked him again after I saw the Jap warranty card and he still dare claim that is a local set and can claim warranty at NSC. Worst of all, the price quoted was higher than local agent sets from other shops. The tamron there although cheap also all not sharp one. Tried 3 copies.

Harvey Norman(Funan)- Impressive. Sold me a 50D kit with shutter count of over 400 out of the box with a tag that is usally seen on display unit. Somemore the firmware was the 1.0.1 version which is the really really old stock. But what impressed me was that the manager was man enough to own up for the "mistake" his guys made and exchanged a replacement set with a shuttercount of 0. He even got someone to deliver the replacement set to my doorstep.:thumbsup: Some shops would have just denied the shuttercount thingy and say it is me who shoot all the 400+. I know, I am just too anal about the shuttercount thingy.
 

N I know said:
No you are not, consumers have to stop taking responsibilty for getting all this craps from the shops that sell them, and then say we are supposed to be blame for not doing our homework. I have no idea how to check shutter count, and I believe some newbies dont even know such a stat exist, so what are we suppose to do? But thumbs up to the manager at HN, its cases like that that demonstrate their honesty.:thumbsup:
 

No you are not, consumers have to stop taking responsibilty for getting all this craps from the shops that sell them, and then say we are supposed to be blame for not doing our homework. I have no idea how to check shutter count, and I believe some newbies dont even know such a stat exist, so what are we suppose to do? But thumbs up to the manager at HN, its cases like that that demonstrate their honesty.:thumbsup:

For nikon can read off exif.

Canon can use the astro jargon 40D shuttercount software that works for most canon. You will need the older version of the EOS utility. The latest EOS utility doesn't seem to work with it, as least on my com. I used version 2.5 from my cd. Some claim not accurate, but brand new set really show 0 when I checked and it tally with the number of photos I take.
 

For nikon can read off exif.

Canon can use the astro jargon 40D shuttercount software that works for most canon. You will need the older version of the EOS utility. The latest EOS utility doesn't seem to work with it, as least on my com. I used version 2.5 from my cd. Some claim not accurate, but brand new set really show 0 when I checked and it tally with the number of photos I take.
How accurate is considered accurate? Should it be within 1 or 100? For the purpose of gauging the usage of a camera, I would say anything that come close to within 100 is good enough for most people. The shutter mechanism's life estimate for a 50D is 100,000 or 150,000 for a 5D2 so the small variance is not going to make any difference.
 

Hi all,

Went down to Vision 1 to get some quotations and they had the D5000 Kit at 950 and 500D kit at 1050, set includes the standard acc minus the tripod, any views on the prices? Song brothers stated 1100 for D5000 and 1250 for 500D. Medeka also ard those prices..

Any advice on how to make sure i dont get ripped off, cos the places recommended i.e. john, ms and cp are all a lit bit pricer den Vision 1.

BTW Vision 1 is at burlinton sq.

Regards.
 

How accurate is considered accurate? Should it be within 1 or 100? For the purpose of gauging the usage of a camera, I would say anything that come close to within 100 is good enough for most people. The shutter mechanism's life estimate for a 50D is 100,000 or 150,000 for a 5D2 so the small variance is not going to make any difference.

For me it is works accurate to 1, i.e. I take one photo the number goes up by one. Some people claim that they get number from the software that is a few thousand lower than their actual number of photos taken.:dunno:

I think shuttercount is a good guage of how "used" and "tested" the brand new set of camera sitting in the shop is. IMO, as far as using shuttercount to guage long term usage is concern, I don't think it matters for most people, because by the time we need a shutter replacement, the camera is probably very obsolete liao.
 

Hi all,

Went down to Vision 1 to get some quotations and they had the D5000 Kit at 950 and 500D kit at 1050, set includes the standard acc minus the tripod, any views on the prices? Song brothers stated 1100 for D5000 and 1250 for 500D. Medeka also ard those prices..

Any advice on how to make sure i dont get ripped off, cos the places recommended i.e. john, ms and cp are all a lit bit pricer den Vision 1.

BTW Vision 1 is at burlinton sq.

Regards.

You sure that is kit price and not body price?
 

Hi all,

Went down to Vision 1 to get some quotations and they had the D5000 Kit at 950 and 500D kit at 1050, set includes the standard acc minus the tripod, any views on the prices? Song brothers stated 1100 for D5000 and 1250 for 500D. Medeka also ard those prices..

Any advice on how to make sure i dont get ripped off, cos the places recommended i.e. john, ms and cp are all a lit bit pricer den Vision 1.

BTW Vision 1 is at burlinton sq.

Regards.

I think Vision 1's price has not include the 7% GST.
Must confirm with them 1st.
Been into this situation before with this shop.
 

I think Vision 1's price has not include the 7% GST.
Must confirm with them 1st.
Been into this situation before with this shop.

even without the gst 950 for D5000 is a fantastic price:bigeyes:
 

alrights... thanks for the advice.

confirmed with them that its the kit price. and also, how wud i know if i'm getting a genuine set, i.e. warranty and stuff wun have any problems. kinda new to this scene of buying a camera. currently on SLR, so making a switch to DSLR. =) Thanks so much for the advise. seek to learn more! haha
 

I too had a bad experience with John 3:16. I will never visit the shop ever again.

I'm new at buying camera equipment and went to John 3:16 after hearing good reviews from friends. I went there yesterday looking to buy a skylight filter for my nikon kit lens. I was told it was sold out but they would have stock today. Being inexperienced, I only asked the price and availability, and not the brand.

So I went down again today (8/4) and the guy who attended to me yesterday ('A') recognised me and asked me nice to wait, and that started my hour plus wait in the shop for nothing.

I waited for service, and when I don't seem to be served I asked the other bespectacled chinese guy ('B') for assistance, he told me 'A' was getting the filter from somewhere. I asked 'B' what is the brand of the filter, he said he didn't know. After a long while, 'A' come back with the filter and instructed 'B' to attach it on my lens for me. That took more waiting as 'B' was attending to other customers.

The filter cost $30 and was of a brand I did not recognise. I was only familiar with Tokina and Hoya and I asked how it compared to this brand, I was not given any proper straight answer. When I asked if there were any other better filters, 'A' recommended a B+W filter at $95. I told him it was out of my budget, but he took the $30 and asked me to compare it with the B+W one, at that point 4 other customers joined in to say the B+W was definitely better, they could see so much difference and urged me to buy the B+W. The major difference I could see with the naked eye was the $30 filter had very visible reflection, but the B+W didn't.

I had to repeat myself many times that $95 is out of my budget and I had to tell them that no matter how they try to make me buy, I will not buy it because I cannot afford it. 'A' retorted to say poor people do not use Nikon. I felt I was subjected to hard sell tactics.

I had brought along a camera with a Tokina skylight filter attached and I compared the $30 filter with it. My Tokina filter looked better as it did not have reflection. When I finally asked for if they had Tokina or Hoya filters, 'B' told me there were out of stock, stock coming in on Monday. I asked how much they cost, and he said Tokina $35, Hoya $55.

So they had Tokina and Hoya filters which I believe is a grade better than the $30 one, and only a bit more expensive, but they would not mention them at all, instead they tried to sell me the $95 B+W filter.

When I said I would probably wait the Tokina filter, 'B' had the cheek to suggest that I buy the $30 FIRST. I told him straight, that I would rather wait and use $35 to buy a Tokina.

Apart from that the sales people were trying to sell me random items on the counter top. One suggested I get the d700, when I said I have a d90, he said I should upgrade. When I said I just got it, he still suggested I upgrade. I told to tell him straight that I won't even pay for a $95 filter, no way I would buy a new camera. I was tiring to have to repeat myself like that to fend off their selling tactics.

Also in the shop was a man who wanted to buy a d90 for work purposes, he has been waiting for the shop to find him one for a few weeks, and he needed the camera for work the next day but the shop still cannot get one for him. 'A' was busy making one phonecall after another to try to find an available d90. A few times, when this man wanted to leave, 'A' would ask him to wait as he make another phone call to try to find stock of the camera.
Before I was in John 3:16, I was in a shop a few floors below which had the d90 in stock and it was priced slightly cheaper. I did not tell that man as I did not think it was nice to do it in someone else's shop. But I hindsight I wish I did.

I felt that 'A' kept his customers waiting and hanging, even if he had no stock and he could not find stock. Camera shops in the area close early, 730-8pm, while John 3:16 closes at 930pm. After about an hour in the shop, I left the shop empty handed at 805pm, and that man was still hanging around the shop, and 'A' as still making phonecalls. If 'A' had simply told the man, sorry we do not have stock, perhaps that man could have walked around and gotten himself the camera he needed for work the next day. It would not add to his income, but it would have been the right thing to do.

If I had been served more promptly or if I had been wise enough to leave earlier, I would have found suitable skylight filter for my lens.

With only 3 or 4 staff, John 3:16 cannot handle the large number of customers patronising them. They are friendly in the sense that they try to greet and capture even one who walk in to their shop, but in fact all they are doing is making their customers wait ridiculous lengths of time to be served and assisted. They cannot and do not give dedicated assistance to customers, instead, you're fighting with others and forever waiting in, not in line, but in a crowded mess, to be served. Business seems so good that things are forever out of stock and you always have to come back another day to get what you want.

This shop is only for those who has the patience to wait for what the want to buy, those who have time to spare and likes to spend that spare time standing around in the shop, mingling and chatting with the staff and other customers.

I do not have that kind of time to spare, I would rather walk into a shop get what I want, and spend my time taking photos.
I buy all my equipment from TCW, and I have been more than pleased with their service, particularly with Daniel, who is most knowledgeable.
Truly, I subscribe to the sentiment that buying and selling is a mutual relationship. Certain customers are suited for certain shops and vice versa. Very much like how a patient relates to a Doctor. The shop may not give the lowest cut-throat price, but the relationship is worth so much more. Intangible. And what one can learn from the sales staff cannot be quantify into dollars and cents.
My personal recommendation is: relate, relate and keep relating to your camera-Doctor. It pays off in the long run.
Just my humble opinion.
 

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