Which L zoom brought you great joy?

[Snoweagle]

No need is for 2470, I hv been using 2470 for three years and I assure u it's still awesome without the is function.

It's even a much more 'no need' for IS in a wide prime.

 

[LittleSid]

It's even a much more 'no need' for IS in a wide prime.

True. True don't know why canon add it in prime wide angle lens

 

[Snoweagle]

True. True don't know why canon add it in prime wide angle lens

Dunno though, but weird things do happen.

 

[Halfmoon]

Having used a 24-70 and a 24-105 IS, the value of the IS becomes clear very quickly. While you can get sharp shots most of the time with the 24-70, there will be a number of shots marred by handshake. So if you need a keeper, you have to be extremely careful. With the 24-105, less care is needed and you can move very fast and many instantaneous grab shots can turn out perfectly. With the 24-70 you have to practice good technique and maybe bump up the ISO a little.

Furthermore, at 70mm, IS would be more useful than for the the 24mm or 28mm prime.

I think Canon is hoping that a few years down the road you fork out money again to buy the 24-70 Mark III IS.

This is of course to bump up the price. I do not think I have ever read anywhere in any forum that Canon users are asking for Canon to include IS into the 24mm prime.

How about a cam that can get you sharp pictures without proper techniques required???? Will this be better???

We also see a lot of shooters from PNS buy DSLR, and expect good photo without reading more about photography... dunno what is ISO, shuttle speed, aperture.... and ask why picture not sharp....

I know the usefulness of IS, but I think too many people simply over rely on technology...... and never focus on proper technique... I do turn my 17-55mm IS off at times just to ensure I do not grow lazy and be careless about my shooting technique.... and I do shoot with 70-200mm at times, and mine is a F4 non-IS.... so I know what it is like, and to me, I rate proper technique as crucial to being part of a photographer.... I can bump ISO... not my favorite move though.... and I enjoy the challenge...

I think the IS in the 2 wide prime is to make it more justifiable to charge the higher price only..... or as mentioned by another bro, it is for the Video users....

If they launched a 24-70mm IS, it would be MkI, not Mk II... and I would be happy without IS....

 

[Halfmoon]

No need is for 2470, I hv been using 2470 for three years and I assure u it's still awesome without the is function.

New 24-70 is 150g lighter, so should be easier to handhold it for long duration......

 

[An drew]

How about a cam that can get you sharp pictures without proper techniques required???? Will this be better???

I think the IS in the 2 wide prime is to make it more justifiable to charge the higher price only..... or as mentioned by another bro, it is for the Video users....
.. and I would be happy without IS....

Actually most digital cams with high ISO can get you sharp pictures without proper technique.

The only reason Canon did not put IS into the 24-70 is that they can already charge you a high price without it. And an even higher price with it later.

It is all good and well to discuss at leisure whether we need IS or not. But the 24-70 is a common working lens, used for bringing food to the table. And when you need to get that shot for your client you want all the advantage you can get.

I have shot for many years without IS or even AF and I prefer for most of my lenses (except the super tele) to be without IS. But if I Need to get the shot I want the best available technology.

If you are just shooting for fun, you should just get a Leica because you can get a great shot without IS or AF. And then it will really depend on your proper technique.

 

[Halfmoon]

Actually most digital cams with high ISO can get you sharp pictures without proper technique.

The only reason Canon did not put IS into the 24-70 is that they can already charge you a high price without it. And an even higher price with it later.

It is all good and well to discuss at leisure whether we need IS or not. But the 24-70 is a common working lens, used for bringing food to the table. And when you need to get that shot for your client you want all the advantage you can get.

I have shot for many years without IS or even AF and I prefer for most of my lenses (except the super tele) to be without IS. But if I Need to get the shot I want the best available technology.

If you are just shooting for fun, you should just get a Leica because you can get a great shot without IS or AF. And then it will really depend on your proper technique.

Well.... I would expect Canon to milk the cow.... but I will be fine with the 24-70mm F2.8 II.... No IS required for me... My sole criteria for lens purchase is MTF chart... ie. Sharpness of the lens, and the color more than IS or no IS...

I know you could always find yourself in a situation when the IS could save your shot..... and that's when IS could safe you.... but... I also think it should be the Photographer have a plan B... if I shooting a paid job, I will make sure I have a prime to help me out in low light shots.......

Leica is out of my league, and I started photography with my dad's old range finder (film)... so I am not new to manual focusing....

I am planning to explore DSLR for the moment, as I am still self-learning interior, portraits, outdoor & flash photography... Those Lee filter price is shocking to me!!! lol... :bigeyes:

But it would be nice to have a RF doing leisure shooting... I was looking at the new Fuji X1pro.... but... seems Fuji QC is a bit.... ?????

 

[An drew]

I am planning to explore DSLR for the moment, as I am still self-learning interior, portraits, outdoor & flash photography... Those Lee filter price is shocking to me!!! lol... :bigeyes:

But it would be nice to have a RF doing leisure shooting... I was looking at the new Fuji X1pro.... but... seems Fuji QC is a bit.... ?????

I am sure you will be great at all this seeing your purist approach. Have fun

 

[Halfmoon]

I am sure you will be great at all this seeing your purist approach. Have fun

Thanks.... I am a still learning... and so much to learn...... especially outdoor... which is totally a different genes to my style.... I have been shooting indoor, and flash, and events... so I had challenges adapting initially.... but slowly, getting the hand of it... but for landscape... I think without the "Lee's", nothing great can be achieved.....

I kind of dislike DSLR to some extend that it take away the waiting time, and excitement and anticipation.... I have another older friend who is sticking to his film RF..... and Russian's lens.... more purist than me....

But DSLR also is a good teaching tool, as it give you instant feedback.... I feel if not for DSLR... there would be lesser freelance event photographers..... and PP take out some of the creativity in shooting..... which I do not really like.... but guess I gotta learn PP too...... since normal shots become great shots with PP... which I feel is like cheating... lol.... =D

 

[An drew]

.... which I do not really like.... but guess I gotta learn PP too...... since normal shots become great shots with PP.... lol.... =D

You are right. Non-L lens shots can be turned into L lens shots by PP. But since I am too lazy and I like buying L lenses so I stick to L.

 

[Halfmoon]

You are right. Non-L lens shots can be turned into L lens shots by PP. But since I am too lazy and I like buying L lenses so I stick to L.

Yeah.... it is like *Cheating* to me... and I have no comments.....

I have a friend who compared my shots with a Pro, and told me mine is better out of camera, but his is better after PP.... WTF.... :bheart:

If PP so good, who need photography skills... sadly... that's the thing with Photography nowadays....

 

[An drew]

Again you are too much of a purist. :bsmilie: I will not criticize PP as I do not consider myself an authority on this. Art is subjective. I am open to whatever works for others. One man's meat is another man's poison.

 

[Halfmoon]

Again you are too much of a purist. :bsmilie: I will not criticize PP as I do not consider myself an authority on this. Art is subjective. I am open to whatever works for others. One man's meat is another man's poison.

I guess the only way is to get even with them... a well taken shot, plus PP should *POW* them!!! lol....

Not that I am criticizing... but I suppose PP allows anyone one with a DSLR can claim they are a PRO even if their skills level is not as great.... if they know PP well..... If there's no DSLR, I think not many people dare to be a wedding photographer.... using films.... :think:

 

[An drew]

a well taken shot, plus PP should *POW* them!!! lol....

The ultimate would be a well taken shot + PP + L lens.;p

 

[Verticoastro]

Mine is a EF 20-35mm f2.8L (Non USM) use it most of the time for my trekking trip.

 

[An drew]

Mine is a EF 20-35mm f2.8L (Non USM) use it most of the time for my trekking trip.

This is one great lens, sorry it wasn't on the list.

 

[brapodam]

If I were the owner of a camera shop, all the L zooms bring me great joy :bsmilie:

 

[Halfmoon]

The ultimate would be a well taken shot + PP + L lens.;p

Seriously.... normal lens, as long as it is sharp, you can PP it to look like L color, and sharpness.... so that was why I did not included L in the equation....

But I think my recent thoughts of investing in filters will be changed......

I think I will shoot with a tripod, and pay $80 for a book and learn to HDR instead...... it look much cheaper than buying the Lee filters.....

Guess I gotta progress with time or risked being left behind........ but if have time, and $$$$, I rather learn the purist ways.....

 

[adrianyew]

the 70-200mm 2.8 IS II is my absolute joy and though its expensive, its definitely my best buy, besides my 7D. brought it skiing with me at -25, worked like a charm, shot out in the open for 7 days probably 4-5 hours at a stretch, and it did very well. Brought it to a safari recently in kenya, hot and dusty and was out in the open for 8 hours a day for 9 days, even my camera and lens became brown and sandy, still worked its magic, good pics, good focus. I guess you pay for what you get and the product is outstanding!

 

[SilverPine]

Mine is a EF 20-35mm f2.8L (Non USM) use it most of the time for my trekking trip.

Although EF 20-35mm f/2.8 L is not on the list, many of my photo posted at CS were taken with this lens, great lens and enjoy it.


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