Which Canon film body to buy?


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Nah, try this guide too

Can also look at EOS50E. Alot can be found at TCW and very cheap price.
Retro looking, tough meter top. Slightly better low light AF assist EV 0-18, Body-integral patterned red AF assist light which I think 30/33 uses pulses from the internal flash.

But then, all these models are probably too good enough for most of us. Price do plays a part, it's all your choice.
 

whoelse said:
Nah, try this guide too

Can also look at EOS50E. Alot can be found at TCW and very cheap price.
Retro looking, tough meter top. Slightly better low light AF assist EV 0-18, Body-integral patterned red AF assist light which I think 30/33 uses pulses from the internal flash.

But then, all these models are probably too good enough for most of us. Price do plays a part, it's all your choice.


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You can also have a look at the EOS50E. Many can be found at TCW and at a very cheap price, too. The camera looks very retro and has a very sturdy meter top. It has a slightly better low-light AF-assist (EV 0-18). A red, patterned AF-assist light is integrated into its body...(no idea)...internal flash.

Then again, these models are probably too advanced for most of us. Also, the price does play a part. So it's your choice.

See link:
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=71310
 

zekai said:
well, the 10D uses the same body shell as eos 30/33.

imo, no point getting eos 30/33v.

The body shells of the 10D and the 30/33 are completely different.
 

MS don't have EOS30 or 33 or 30v or 33v
 

nightbreed said:
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You can also have a look at the EOS50E. Many can be found at TCW and at a very cheap price, too. The camera looks very retro and has a very sturdy meter top. It has a slightly better low-light AF-assist (EV 0-18). A red, patterned AF-assist light is integrated into its body...(no idea)...internal flash.

Then again, these models are probably too advanced for most of us. Also, the price does play a part. So it's your choice.

See link:
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=71310

Well Done!

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maxkcyeo said:
MS don't have EOS30 or 33 or 30v or 33v

If you can wait, the 30V will probably be coming out by May. I bought mine from HK, very happy with it.
 

Oh yeah, i just went to canon's website and checked.. the main diff with the 'v' is that you have E-TTL2 and backlight for your LCD...

I got my 30 at a rather good price :D New 30 from CP is 680.. date 30 is 720 i think.. 33 is 630..

P.s; eh eos 30 users, you guys got problem with the ECF when wearing specs? Haa.. I think my eye 'sanget' Haha
 

CP sure have but most likely over-charge.
 

honestly, i think that whatever film body doesn't matter.
if u use the same settings and film, you'll get the exact same results from a eos 1V and from a eos 50. the only diff is that one looks pro (1v) and one looks cheap (eos 50)
but with digital, diff models of cameras use different sensors (CCD or CMOS), so u'll get very different results from a 1-ds(most expensive dslr) and a 300d(cheapest dslr)...
jus what i think...or am i wrong? correct me if i am...... ;p
 

hey maxkcyeo... you tried to email MS and the replied you no more stock issit? cos i was thinking of going down these 2 weeks to get me-self the 30. did you ask them for an e-quote? how about CP? what's their e-quote price? maybe if we go down together and get, they will give us cheaper?
 

devilicboy said:
honestly, i think that whatever film body doesn't matter.
if u use the same settings and film, you'll get the exact same results from a eos 1V and from a eos 50. the only diff is that one looks pro (1v) and one looks cheap (eos 50)
but with digital, diff models of cameras use different sensors (CCD or CMOS), so u'll get very different results from a 1-ds(most expensive dslr) and a 300d(cheapest dslr)...
jus what i think...or am i wrong? correct me if i am...... ;p

I think if you set the dial to manual and do your own judgement for exposure then the camera model doesn't make a different. But 1V and 50E are quite different in terms of custom functions and so on. There are a whole list of them, maybe you search it out on the net.
 

JermsDayOut said:
hey maxkcyeo... you tried to email MS and the replied you no more stock issit? cos i was thinking of going down these 2 weeks to get me-self the 30. did you ask them for an e-quote? how about CP? what's their e-quote price? maybe if we go down together and get, they will give us cheaper?


I called MS, they just say they don't have. CP's stuff are always slightly more expensive, but they live by their reputation and good service. I still don't think I want a new one, I just want a cheap good one.

Maybe 2 week from now I might change my mind, then maybe I'll PM you.

:cheers:
 

Just get a used EOS 30/33 for around $450++ and you'll be happy! Add a 50c torchlight and you'll have a backlit LCD (just like what I did for my EOS 300...haha). :sweat:

devilicboy said:
but with digital, diff models of cameras use different sensors (CCD or CMOS), so u'll get very different results from a 1-ds(most expensive dslr) and a 300d(cheapest dslr)...
jus what i think...or am i wrong? correct me if i am...... ;p

For your context, 1Ds and 300D uses the same kind of CMOS sensor, but of different sizes, hence different resolution.

There's a whole lot of other differences than just the sensor.

And there are differences between the EOS 50 and EOS 30. For one, the AF in EOS 30 is faster and covers 7 points (usefulness debatable).
 

Can this old EOS 5 beats EOS 30?

I think te second hand set should goes for $400 to $500?
 

Hi,
From the comparison chart supplied by whoelse, you can see the various differences between these 2 models, both have their pros and cons and at the very least the 5 is old as compared to the 30.
I own the EOS 5 and it is my first serious SLR and recently had the opportunity to test out the 30 at CP when purchasing a lens. I've requested a film body and they passed me a 30.
First impression, the 30 really feels more plastic and does not have the sturdy build of the 5. Also the 30's viewfinder is darker compared to the 5 and it does not balance comfortably in your hands with a telephoto L lens.
I agree that with the newer 30, it can support the whole range of E-TTL flahses and technology and the 5 only has the A-TTL. Unless you really use flashes a lot, I guess the 30 is the winner over here.
Just my 0.02c contribution.

P.S: You can always get a good 2nd hand EOS 5 and this camera is used to capture the mid-air freeze jump sequence by Trinity and Neo in the first Matrix movie.
 

I sort of wonder why Canon uses uses pulses from the internal flash in 30/33 to aid low light focusing? This can be very intrusive for some people which like telling the whole world that "I'm taking your photograph" :-D This is because I think the 30/33 uses the same AF as 500n which I heard is slower then 5/50. Not saying it's no good because the newer model does have some newer, better functions. Really depend on individial priority and $$$
 

whoelse said:
I sort of wonder why Canon uses uses pulses from the internal flash in 30/33 to aid low light focusing? This can be very intrusive for some people which like telling the whole world that "I'm taking your photograph" :-D This is because I think the 30/33 uses the same AF as 500n which I heard is slower then 5/50. Not saying it's no good because the newer model does have some newer, better functions. Really depend on individial priority and $$$
this has been noted by many many people.. Haa. I tink canon is trying to make the 30 more affordable. But still, by removing the AF-assist?! That's the biggest gripe i have :( but then again, if they included the AF-assist beam, the camera would be so small, would it? Heh..
 

I dun think so. The Infra-red AF assist is a small thingy which I dun think require much circuit. As for the reason, I guess it's the economy of cost since 5/50 are obselete model and 500n probably ship more body for 5/50 combine so, it's easlier to use the 500n AF system. There might be nothing wrong with this AF. I think maybe by using internal flash, it may help the metering system to be more correct since the subject with be lighted up. Somemore since it's low light, you need flash right? Haha, but you see, this are all my wild guess.

But then I will still pick the 50e against the 33 for my preference on the $ + features. Somemore the retro looking and large dial that is very easy to switch from features to features. Otherwise, pick the newer body, all these models are good enuf for 95% of the people here I think :)
 

Just arrived back from an overseas trip yesterday and opened my goods ordered on-line from B&H.....

The Elan 7NE or EOS 30V as it is called in Asia (with eye control) is a pretty well constructed camera for its price...about S$630 (all in price).Even with the battery pack, BP300 attached, it still feels light (boon or bane..?) for normal use.....

It is definitely worth a read for those who are keen to get their hands on one to note the E-TTL 2 and supposedly faster autofocusing abilities.

Put the body with the 70-200 f/4 lens today and the weight is still no issue for low-light photogrpahy.....I now have to get used to handling lighter equipment after the Nikon F5 and AFS lenses...... Compared with the Canon 10D, the feel is less substantial for bigger hands (even with the battery pack)
but definitely suitable for Asian sized hands like mine.....

The new matt finish looks professional although I would prefer if the camera back was finished in the same look.

Wonder if this is already selling in Singapore coz I have not heard from Cathay since I last checked two weeks ago.

Hope this helps
 

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