Which 50mm lens should I go far?


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Bee Hedge said:
I would love to join the group if it's OK with all u guys and gals. Oct 1, rite? Where? What time?

Sign up and reply to the RFF thread. Will email details closer to the date if you drop me an email at cs@aeroframes.net . Prolly 3pm.
 

Bee Hedge said:
I've done a little homework...
1) Summicron f/2 - Expensive
2) Summilux f/1.4 ASPH - Very very expensive

Are there anymore 50mm lenses out there? Generally, I like lenses that can handle low light and is small and light.

You can opt for the 50mm summicron dual range. Built is quite good and has a pleasing character. There's a gentle sharpness about it that is more pleasing than the new 50mm summicron.

50mm summilux asph is a little overprice, frankly speaking, unless you need that corner to corner sharpness when shooting wide open.

last thing, er, fast lenses are never small and light. small and light lenses are never fast :) At least not at the moment, hehe.
 

I have the 50 summilux, 2nd version and in comparison to the ASPH, there's not much difference except maybe the rendition of contrast and edge sharpness rendition (that by the way is hardly noticeable till you blow a neg up till you can see the fuzzy edges..).

But then again, I only touch silver gelatin films.

However, ASPH probably presents a more accurate colour tone detail in terms of slides .
Otherwise that's about it.

Well, I won't recommend the summilux (yes, even for a pre asph it's pretty ex! I got mine at a bargain and even that hurt thought it didn't burn a big hole in my pocket..) for somebody who wants to discover rangefinders.

I still think for money and performance wise, a pre asph 50 summicron is still the way to go. Even collapsibles could be had for a reasonable sum nowadays. Here, there's one extremely mint + filter going for A$500 .

But hey, don't take my word for it. It's pretty subjective


(By the way, I don't know about summilux absorbing darkness or retaining contrast, but isn't night shots high contrast by nature??)
 

Hi,after reading the all more experinced view and practicality.
Can anyone tell me Practically if I shoot normal Fuji slide or most likely fujifilm 100 to 200 ASA,and print it to super 8R only,IS there any visual diff by using latest version of 50/2 cron
 

Hi,after reading the all more experinced view and practicality.

Can anyone tell me Practically if I shoot normal Fuji slide or most likely fujifilm 100 to 200 ASA,and print it to super 8R only,IS there any visual diff by using latest version of 50/2 cron,older cron 50/2,or pre asph lux 50/1.4 or asph lux 50/1.4,by setting at F2??
In term in contrast/color/sharpness/bokeh/flare resistance?/
 

Did I mention that you have to wind the film before you set the shutter speed? If not, your $600 IIIf will definately go kaput.

1 word: Do not take archiac collector items and advertise them as tools that take great
photographs.

Apparently my friends who have it tell me they do take great photos with it.
No reason to doubt them. Not bothered whether it is archiac or new as long as it does a good job.

Just few weeks ago, a friend (a CS member) let me handle his IIIf.
I fiddled with it. There was no film. set the speed, wind the shutter, fired the shutter.
nothing broke.

asked another friend yesterday, also another collector. he has IIIf too. according to him, he does that "set shutter speed before wind the shutter" all the time at home and nothing ever malfunctioned.
 

Cheap, yet beautiful alternatives include these LTM (M39 Leica Thread Mounts, which would work with your bessas with an LTM to M converter)

These are all Former Soviet Union LTM ~50mm

- Industar 61 L/D - VERY SHARP, lanthanum coated optics, very contrasty, nice bokeh ~USD$25
- Industar 61 - called the panda lens because of its silver and black rimming, i like these lens. I got mine with a FED-4 camera.
- Jupiter 8 - Zeiss Sonnar 50mm copy, pretty fast lens--f/2 ~USD$50
- Industar 50 - comes in the Elmar design or the rigid design. ~USD$45
- Industar 22 - Comes in elmar design, very nice. Coated, and has this lovely softness.
- Jupiter 3 - These are NICE lens.... very sharp, very fast lens, I think they were also modeled after Zeiss Sonnar's but they're nicer than the Jupiter 8's in some way. ~USD$100-120

Of course these lenses are unique, and sometimes the sellers on ebay don't do a good job at explaining their items that well, so I would recommend you buying from user Alex-photo on ebay. He is perhaps the best dealer to get lenses from. Very fair and cheap, shipping to the US isn't too bad either.

I would say Former Soviet Union lenses are nice backups, they're very replaceable, but you'll find yourself enjoying using them. I think that some of the older ones might be a bit frustrating to use in sunny weather because some of the former lenses do not have very sophisticated coating to prevent flares. A simple remedy would be a lenshood made from an Isopropanol rubbing alcohol bottle sprayed in matte black spray paint.

Ahh, and also, I reallly like the 50mm f/2 summicron's.... a gem of a lens.
 

U guys have been a great help. Thank you very much! Arigato!
 

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