Where is Anthony's Collection? Can't seem to find it
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..........guess where I bought it......no wonder they delisted him from the agent list.....thx for the info. finally found him at the 60 strathmore ave #04-79 address. at first i called him and he had the maid told me he was hospitalized. i decide to check out the address anyway and guess what? that mr anthony chia is sitting comfortably at home!!!! hospitalized my a** :sticktong when confronted, he cannot deny and ask me to give him 2 weeks to bring the stuff back from thailand. gimme a lot of crap abt thailand got more business lah, that's why he shifted everything there lah etc etc. i will give him the 2 weeks to see if he will honour his word or not (which i seriously doubt so :thumbsd: ). for all the rest out there who he has conned, if you're like me still have stuff with him, suggest you go straight to his place and look for him quick cos i don't know if he'll run to hide somewhere else or not. i intend to make it a police/court case if he doesn't gimme me back my lenses at the end of the 2 weeks grace period! oh, don't bother calling him, he won't answer.szekiat said:
Have met Anthony before in his shop. did not buy anything.
Asked about the used contax on display. think he said it was his collection.
He wanted me to name my price. I hate it when shops and salesmen say "you tell me how much you want to pay me" for an item on sale. They should have a price. Now it is revealed that the contax may have belonged to some person who put it there for sale.
Saw lamberger aromatic oil and burners on sale in the shop and got the feeling this place was going down. lt seems to be those multi-level marketing type of product. What is MLM pyramid oil sales doing in a camera shop.
Well I have also been cheated before by the owner (not Anthony, as I have no dealings with him) of a another 2nd hand camera shop. No need to mention names. He was doing well having struck a good sum in 4D. But the problem is that even after that windfall he had to cheat customers like me. I left some good stuff on consignment and he blatantly said he lost the item. Certainly he sold it and kept the money. He also sold me a 'brand new' item that turned out to be used with defect. I had to complain to manufacturer to get a new set replaced.
But what is the moral of the story here ?
It is this : You reap what you sow.
In eastern metaphysical mythological terms:KARMA or YIN KUO or POW YIN.
I did not go after that shop owner who cheated me, as I could see it (KARMA) coming to him. I did not confront him or make any police report.
He was wiped out in a few years, lost his shop, perhaps to rampant gambling.
Now peddling on the streets - LITERALLY.
I saw him. But just greeted him out of basic manners.
He was flushing himself down the toilet with such behavior.
Perhaps at the time he thought he was smart to take advantage of others.
But as some one observing on the outside, I could see the "sin debt" he was piling up. And eventually he had to pay that sin debt, for all the people he had cheated.
So Celestial punishment is not from the man-made law court.
It comes from UP THERE.
Another observation. When a businessman is doing well and seems to be prospering, everyone seems to like him. When he is down in the dumps, everyone seems to dislike him. And distance themselves from him.
Asked about the used contax on display. think he said it was his collection.
He wanted me to name my price. I hate it when shops and salesmen say "you tell me how much you want to pay me" for an item on sale. They should have a price. Now it is revealed that the contax may have belonged to some person who put it there for sale.
Saw lamberger aromatic oil and burners on sale in the shop and got the feeling this place was going down. lt seems to be those multi-level marketing type of product. What is MLM pyramid oil sales doing in a camera shop.
Well I have also been cheated before by the owner (not Anthony, as I have no dealings with him) of a another 2nd hand camera shop. No need to mention names. He was doing well having struck a good sum in 4D. But the problem is that even after that windfall he had to cheat customers like me. I left some good stuff on consignment and he blatantly said he lost the item. Certainly he sold it and kept the money. He also sold me a 'brand new' item that turned out to be used with defect. I had to complain to manufacturer to get a new set replaced.
But what is the moral of the story here ?
It is this : You reap what you sow.
In eastern metaphysical mythological terms:KARMA or YIN KUO or POW YIN.
I did not go after that shop owner who cheated me, as I could see it (KARMA) coming to him. I did not confront him or make any police report.
He was wiped out in a few years, lost his shop, perhaps to rampant gambling.
Now peddling on the streets - LITERALLY.
I saw him. But just greeted him out of basic manners.
He was flushing himself down the toilet with such behavior.
Perhaps at the time he thought he was smart to take advantage of others.
But as some one observing on the outside, I could see the "sin debt" he was piling up. And eventually he had to pay that sin debt, for all the people he had cheated.
So Celestial punishment is not from the man-made law court.
It comes from UP THERE.
Another observation. When a businessman is doing well and seems to be prospering, everyone seems to like him. When he is down in the dumps, everyone seems to dislike him. And distance themselves from him.
i ran some errands there for a friend before, and he totally ignored me. he made me wait for some time w/o even lifting an eye to talk to me before he bothered to attend to me.
perhaps i don't look like i'm a potential customer.
nice guy? well, maybe 'nice' is a subjective word
perhaps i don't look like i'm a potential customer.
nice guy? well, maybe 'nice' is a subjective word
Got nothing against Anthony.
He was ok to chat with.
Cannot comment on the $ episodes about him mentioned by others.
So I hope this does not turn out to be an Anthony bashing thread.
All forum posters also got to be careful about what we say.
If overboard and too insulting or plain libellious, can be very serious legally.
So guys, more careful what we say.
Funny thing is, (I think) if you are doing a business, when you are prospering and doing well, the whole world loves you, some even suck up to you. or flatter you.
When you are broke, people start to see the not so flattering aspect of you.
I guess that's human.
As I said, what I related was not not done by Anthony.
It was not-so-nice practices by another 2nd hand shop owner who has given up his shop.
He was ok to chat with.
Cannot comment on the $ episodes about him mentioned by others.
So I hope this does not turn out to be an Anthony bashing thread.
All forum posters also got to be careful about what we say.
If overboard and too insulting or plain libellious, can be very serious legally.
So guys, more careful what we say.
Funny thing is, (I think) if you are doing a business, when you are prospering and doing well, the whole world loves you, some even suck up to you. or flatter you.
When you are broke, people start to see the not so flattering aspect of you.
I guess that's human.
As I said, what I related was not not done by Anthony.
It was not-so-nice practices by another 2nd hand shop owner who has given up his shop.
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U R right ricohflex
YIN KUO is absolute,whether u believe it or not ,it exist.
Cos in Sutra wriitten even Buddha has to go thru this and buddha said its reality,and he just told u all,not made by anyone,just the fact.(I learn from master chin kung VCD from Buddhist Lodge at kim yam road)
I suffer lots from my previous sin,and now turn buddhist,try to be good.
In sutra nobody punish u except after sometime,the cause and effect work on you.
I hate also someone tell me how much I have to pay,should name your price and we discuss.
In late march I sold my 8/10 eos 5 at dirt cheap at 250 only(where to find?) and give him a gift of lens work 3,he paid me 200 and promised me 50 in a month time as he is in N/S poor guy.
Well till now,no news from him,but I will not chase him for this,either I owe him last life or pitiful he is ignorant enough to reap the YIN KUO next time.
Perhaps we should keep the religious aspects of this discussion to ourselves. There are many different faiths here in CS and it would be rather inconsiderate to explain the actions of someone based of religious concepts.
I do agree that what goes around will eventually come around. Honest dealings can never be emphasised enough. Whatever your faith may be, it's best to abide by this simple principle.
I do agree that what goes around will eventually come around. Honest dealings can never be emphasised enough. Whatever your faith may be, it's best to abide by this simple principle.
i'm not trying to bash anybody here but more as a warning since anthony has been in this business for sometime. i really had a hard time looking for him and was worried sick for a long time. but thx to CS, i managed to get the contacts and i feel i need to warn others who might be in similar situation as i am. but aside from that, let's come back to photography. i'm pretty keen to go into bessa rangefinders and stuff cos i've seen how much more superior the lenses are. anybody out there has any good suggestions as to where i can start? what body to get first and what lenses? i heard the 125mm is a superb lens....
but i note that there are people who buy bessa and sell it off fast. maybe it does not have something they were looking for.
can it be the Leica M mystique?
well some say bessa nowhere near to M in build quality and refinement. It may be true.
so they were very disatisfied.
perhaps some want to hang a M round their necks to announce : "now look here I can afford this"
the association with status was so overpowering that a friend of mine bought a DENTED M series for a good sum of money - until I woke him up. You see, he was so GIAN for the "status". This is true desperation. :bsmilie:
can it be the Leica M mystique?
well some say bessa nowhere near to M in build quality and refinement. It may be true.
so they were very disatisfied.
perhaps some want to hang a M round their necks to announce : "now look here I can afford this"
the association with status was so overpowering that a friend of mine bought a DENTED M series for a good sum of money - until I woke him up. You see, he was so GIAN for the "status". This is true desperation. :bsmilie:
Haha. I have a nice M2 collecting dust in my room! I used to think that CV lenses are great especially at that price. But ever since i got my 40mm summicron, i've revised my views. The sharpness and OOF of leica lenses really cannot be beaten. I've more or less sworn off CV lenses now and am instead hunting down cheap leica ones. One exception being my 12mm toy.
For a good start in CV, try the 35mm f1.7. Small and relatively sharp. The tonality is not of the same pedigree as leica though.
For a good start in CV, try the 35mm f1.7. Small and relatively sharp. The tonality is not of the same pedigree as leica though.
I think you have to judge the Voigtlanders for what they are. They represent value for money, they do a better than average job, they don't quite lead the pack but neither do they trail very far behind. Personally, I think their bodies are a bigger bang for the buck, compared with what else is out there with similar capabilities (in camera metering, AE mode, DX etc). While the older Leica stuff does represent a good deal as far as Leicas go, they still tend to go for a tad more than a comparable new CV lens.
Ricohflex, there are a whole bunch of reasons why people sell their gear, I don't think it's right to assume that all CV gear is dumped for Leica. I personally have 3 at the moment so am selling my older body off, and that's quite common with Bessa owners I know. They represent an affordable deal for lots of folks and is a good platform to start off with RF photography. And sure the construction of the Bessa may not match that of a Leica but that's not to say they are not well made. Having handled a range of Bessas, I can say that they have improved tremendously from model to model. The current crop of R2, R2a/R3a are comparable in build quality of say a modern DSLR like the D70. Nothing falls off, very few cases of failure, durable finish on the body etc... maybe the only gripe is a slightly sensitive rangefinder which can be misaligned sometimes after a knock or two, but thankfully it's user realignable.
Ricohflex, there are a whole bunch of reasons why people sell their gear, I don't think it's right to assume that all CV gear is dumped for Leica. I personally have 3 at the moment so am selling my older body off, and that's quite common with Bessa owners I know. They represent an affordable deal for lots of folks and is a good platform to start off with RF photography. And sure the construction of the Bessa may not match that of a Leica but that's not to say they are not well made. Having handled a range of Bessas, I can say that they have improved tremendously from model to model. The current crop of R2, R2a/R3a are comparable in build quality of say a modern DSLR like the D70. Nothing falls off, very few cases of failure, durable finish on the body etc... maybe the only gripe is a slightly sensitive rangefinder which can be misaligned sometimes after a knock or two, but thankfully it's user realignable.
I'd mention that the contax G series cost about the same used and offer similar if not better performance. Catch is, don't venture wider than 28mm!!!!
That said, i must correct myself, the CV lenses are not dogs. Honestly, i started on an R2 and a 50 f1.5, 21 f4, and 75 f2.5. They're all great lenses for their price, but one should not write of leica simply because they think that leicas=expensive. I got a my 40mm at £130 which is about $400, which is about the same as a CV 35mm or 50mm lens. Similar deals can be found for older 90mm lenses. That said, i'll bet there are lots of folks out there who shoot CV and make images a lot better than mine!
That said, i must correct myself, the CV lenses are not dogs. Honestly, i started on an R2 and a 50 f1.5, 21 f4, and 75 f2.5. They're all great lenses for their price, but one should not write of leica simply because they think that leicas=expensive. I got a my 40mm at £130 which is about $400, which is about the same as a CV 35mm or 50mm lens. Similar deals can be found for older 90mm lenses. That said, i'll bet there are lots of folks out there who shoot CV and make images a lot better than mine!
oh, was not saying that owners sell cv to buy M series.
was saying they bought cv hoping for 'something' psychological.
perhaps hoping to get equal of M at far lower price.
but in the end convinced this was not so.
and sell.
did not think much of M anyway. I don't see why it was such a big deal.
The M lenses were fantastic, but the body and concept got inherent limitations. I liked to shoot macro and tele 200mm+ at that time.
sold 3 M6 quite cheap. 2 of them mint.
and a bunch of M lenses, all mint except for 1.
It was a personal choice.
Some close friends like M. They got plenty. (like 20 std lenses..and that's just 50mm) not counting the rest and the bodies...
to me R is better. :bsmilie:
that was before clubsnap.
was saying they bought cv hoping for 'something' psychological.
perhaps hoping to get equal of M at far lower price.
but in the end convinced this was not so.
and sell.
did not think much of M anyway. I don't see why it was such a big deal.
The M lenses were fantastic, but the body and concept got inherent limitations. I liked to shoot macro and tele 200mm+ at that time.
sold 3 M6 quite cheap. 2 of them mint.
and a bunch of M lenses, all mint except for 1.
It was a personal choice.
Some close friends like M. They got plenty. (like 20 std lenses..and that's just 50mm) not counting the rest and the bodies...
to me R is better. :bsmilie:
that was before clubsnap.
err...right. All cameras have their limitations depending on the style and work that you shoot. I do a lot of opening night photography for stage events where silence is everything. The DSLRs are just too loud. I also do a lot of sports and there's nothing beating my 1d on a 400mm f2.8 for that, nothing i have anyway. So i see the point. Also, these days i make a lot of short weekend trips to visit friends in europe (i'm in london now) and its more convenient to carry my Leica M and my clothes and still squeeze it onto handluggage.
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