flipfreak
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oic. i'm tempted to try out mf although i am not experienced in photography.
whats the difference between an RB67 and 645?
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oic. i'm tempted to try out mf although i am not experienced in photography.
If the question is AF searching, then I think any AF camera will suffer from lack of contrast and partially, AF points.
I have used the Mamiya 645AF + 80mm (~kit lens) and it's brilliantly sharp versus the average 35mm. Unfortunately I haven't got any pictures available online to show. But I was totally blown away the first time I got my roll back and pretty much made me swear off digital 35mm (I still like my FM2 though, first camera, film and all). However the latter is still the dominant market and a MF digital back in comparison doesn't let you run around as economically as opposed to my d200. :cry:
I've spent time on the RB67 numerous times and had opportunity to shoot with Hassy H1D (tethered to mac) once and the difference is something else. Don't have the numbers for 67frame vs H1D digital back so might be unfair comparison. :dunno: But seeing it direct from shooting to on monitor the picture is good.
I guess the average photographer wouldn't spend the kind of money a studio does on AF MF gear hence the seldom sale on ebay regarding AF lenses. The market for lenses is pretty small too, and are quality glasses. If I buy one, it'll be for life till it or I retires.
ps. I do have a picture afterall. Mamiya 645AF + 80mm + Provia 100F. Forget the messy composition. This is a crop from the original picture, you can see what I got so hot about.
clubgrit
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Well, using film cameras can help you learn the fundamentals ...
The RB67 is about 2.7kg with waist level prism and standard 90mm. Since most shooting will be waist/chest level, it's not too bad (provided one is strong enough), since your arms are more or less always down. You need a bag or the strap, however, for relief of arm weariness or for the next shot.
With the prism (about 700+ grams), incredibly heavy to raise to eye level. 700+ grams might not seem much, but to quote an old age Arabian idiom - "... the straw that broke the camel's back"
Inspite of this, the RB67 is a very good MF camera, cheap and abundant 2nd hand with 90mm (Cathay sells new sets at lower prices I think, if still available). Its bellows is also excellent for close-up photography with even the standard 90mm.
The RB67 is about 2.7kg with waist level prism and standard 90mm. Since most shooting will be waist/chest level, it's not too bad (provided one is strong enough), since your arms are more or less always down. You need a bag or the strap, however, for relief of arm weariness or for the next shot.
With the prism (about 700+ grams), incredibly heavy to raise to eye level. 700+ grams might not seem much, but to quote an old age Arabian idiom - "... the straw that broke the camel's back"
Inspite of this, the RB67 is a very good MF camera, cheap and abundant 2nd hand with 90mm (Cathay sells new sets at lower prices I think, if still available). Its bellows is also excellent for close-up photography with even the standard 90mm.
Rangefinder_fan
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Agree.
I went from digital to film in order to get thefundementals right and to ease myself off a very trigger happy routine. So I went out and got the most mechanical cameras I could find so that if I mis-read the exposure of a scene, it's totally my fault. Now running around with a RB and OM setup, which works out great for me.
The RB is heavy though, but I like the slides I get out of it.
rf
I went from digital to film in order to get thefundementals right and to ease myself off a very trigger happy routine. So I went out and got the most mechanical cameras I could find so that if I mis-read the exposure of a scene, it's totally my fault. Now running around with a RB and OM setup, which works out great for me.
The RB is heavy though, but I like the slides I get out of it.
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