What would you do with 36MP?

[Dfive]

How many MB File size does 36Mp create ???

My LEICA M9P ( 18Mp Full frame sensor ) does .DNG files at 36.4MB each !!

 

[bigpond]

What would I do with 36MP? Nothing. Not going there.

I like a D3s sensor in a D700 body. Hopefully it comes out after the D800, maybe a D700s?

And no way the D800 will have better noise performance than D700. To say so would be to claim D3x has better noise performance than D3s or D3 or D700, which is not true.

Or I may end up with a D7000 - reluctant to go there, as the improvement over D300 is too small for me to splash out the money. Maybe wait another year and buy use D7000? I like to have video function in a D300-size body. And I do not have the luxury of changing body for video, heck I can't even change lens under water!

Wrt noise performance, pixel size is not the only variable -- neither is it the most important. Otherwise we will all be happy and stop at the D1x.

Technology is not constant. Check out the high ISO performance of the new Canon G1X. Amazingly, it appears APS-C noise performance today has caught up with that of FF 4 years ago.

 

[Cheesecake]

landscape and studio only. ;p;p

magnificent! can't wait for it if its true! ;p;p



u guys can carry on debating on all the technicalities. i'm just so gonna get one when it is released! ;p

 

[wakaowalao]

Sure all can whined about having such large amount of megapixels for what, in that case 5Dm2 will never be one of the best seller and who will want a 16mp APS-C D7000?

 

[Ansel]

I think Nikon is aiming at the Pro community who needed the 36MP for commercial jobs. In certain situations, it may replace the medium format DSLRs that some pros use. More croppping options is certainly a good thing and some people may even get it for that purpose alone.

If I were to get it, i'll probably be set to low MP most of the time and only occasionally be set to the highest MP.

I think Nikon may have a deadly weapon hidden in this model. They can put in a low MP (16-24MP) mode with super low noise images(using advance NR algorithms) that can greatly surpass the current crop of low noise FX sensors at the same MP level (aka D3s and D700 and those in the C and S brands).

Just my 2 cents.

 

[vizuel]

I think Nikon may have a deadly weapon hidden in this model. They can put in a low MP (16-24MP) mode with super low noise images(using advance NR algorithms) that can greatly surpass the current crop of low noise FX sensors at the same MP level (aka D3s and D700 and those in the C and S brands).

Just my 2 cents.

If so..

 

[diediealsomustdive]

Wrt noise performance, pixel size is not the only variable -- neither is it the most important. Otherwise we will all be happy and stop at the D1x.

Technology is not constant. Check out the high ISO performance of the new Canon G1X. Amazingly, it appears APS-C noise performance today has caught up with that of FF 4 years ago.

True to the first point, but you are taking the very long road of D1 vs D800, a much shorter road between the D3s and the D800, and even shorter between D4 and D800. Why stretch the truth?

If it is true, then pray tell why the D4 has only 16MP? If Nikon can deliver 36MP at better noise performance than D3s? And there are how many people who say that D4 is only a slight improvement over D3s? Then the D800 at 36Mp will be performance at much higher pixel count and have as good a noise performance as D4! Dream on.

And it is proven that the D7000 noise performance is not in the same league as D700. I will be very surprised if D800 can spot 36Mp and be better in noise performance than D700.

Again, D3x has similar noise performance as D300s, simply cutting a bigger sensor from the same wafer. And D800 will have similar noise performance as D7000, again cutting a FX sensor from the same wafer that gives us the DX sensor of D7000.

And D3x cannot match D3s in noise performance. Yes technology is not constant, but please do not be a blind believer that technology can move that fast. 3 to 4 more years from now, maybe. Tomorrow, no.

 

[Ansel]

DDAMD,

What I was speculating was this:

36MPix 14-bit RAW file shot at ISO 6400 -->> Expeed3 Advance in-camera NR algorithm -->> Super clean 16MPix image (raw or jpeg) that looks like ISO 100

Do you think that will be a killer feature?

 

[diediealsomustdive]

I think that's definitely possible, the Dx crop will beat D7000 in noise performance given the additional months and the added engineering work.

But I am not likely to like it for that, could save a bundle by getting the d7000, right?

 

[UncleFai]

I think that's definitely possible, the Dx crop will beat D7000 in noise performance given the additional months and the added engineering work.

But I am not likely to like it for that, could save a bundle by getting the d7000, right?

It better...

The Canon G1X point and shoot at ISO 12800 is just about as good as the D7000 at ISO 1600.

Canon PowerShot G1 X - sample images - Lenstip.com

 

[bigpond]

True to the first point, but you are taking the very long road of D1 vs D800, a much shorter road between the D3s and the D800, and even shorter between D4 and D800. Why stretch the truth?

If it is true, then pray tell why the D4 has only 14MP? If Nikon can deliver 36MP at better noise performance than D3s? And there are how many people who say that D4 is only a slight improvement over D3s? Then the D800 at 36Mp will be performance at much higher pixel count and have as good a noise performance as D4! Dream on.

And it is proven that the D7000 noise performance is not in the same league as D700. I will be very surprised if D800 can spot 36Mp and be better in noise performance than D700.

Again, D3x has similar noise performance as D300s, simply cutting a bigger sensor from the same wafer. And D800 will have similar noise performance as D7000, again cutting a FX sensor from the same wafer that gives us the DX sensor of D7000.

And D3x cannot match D3s in noise performance. Yes technology is not constant, but please do not be a blind believer that technology can move that fast. 3 to 4 more years from now, maybe. Tomorrow, no.

I think we are in general agreement here. But nowhere have I compared potential D800 high ISO performance with the D4.

I am merely making the point (based on latest crop of DX sensors) that noise-shaping technology has come a long way in the past 4 years.

With EXPEED3, I will not be surprised if D800 high ISO beats the D7000.

Anyway, we will soon find out

 

[ageha]

Macro and more headroom for cropping!

 

[sfoto100]

If the lens can resolve , it means better details for landscape n portrait ... I think it is good...

 

[diediealsomustdive]

I think we are in general agreement here. But nowhere have I compared potential D800 high ISO performance with the D4.

I am merely making the point (based on latest crop of DX sensors) that noise-shaping technology has come a long way in the past 4 years.

With EXPEED3, I will not be surprised if D800 high ISO beats the D7000.

Anyway, we will soon find out

This part I agree - the one on D800 high ISO beating D7000. Let's see if the D800 high ISO can beat D700.

 

[subzero]

As hobbyist, it is rewarding sometime to print your work out to display in your own living room and make it like own art gallery.
I will usually select best picture to print it on Canvas or photo paper but maximum up to A3 size as D700 is not up to poster size.
With D800, I can have poster size printed without any worry. That will be the pull factor for me if I am getting it, but a little too expensive for that though.

With the D800 coming up, I was thinking of the wonders it could open up for many. I definately would get my hands on it, BUT! In the real world practicality, we won't print our pictures so large. Can anybody enlighten me what will you do with the full 36MP?

 

[Miao]

Does anyone know if d800 can record nef file in lower resolution file size ?

 

[edutilos-]

As hobbyist, it is rewarding sometime to print your work out to display in your own living room and make it like own art gallery.
I will usually select best picture to print it on Canvas or photo paper but maximum up to A3 size as D700 is not up to poster size.
With D800, I can have poster size printed without any worry. That will be the pull factor for me if I am getting it, but a little too expensive for that though.

Big Print | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Flickr: Discussing large print sizes in Nikon D700

Yes, arguably most people think you can't make large prints out of 12 megapixels. But we tend to forget that you don't go up close and personal even if the print is large. There is a comfortable viewing distance to take the whole print in, and that's what we should be considering. I've seen poster-sized prints from 10-12 megapixel DSLRs that look good.

 

[edutilos-]

Does anyone know if d800 can record nef file in lower resolution file size ?

I don't think so. The idea of a RAW file is unadulterated, unmodified data. Don't think you can force the sensor to output less pixels. Usually the in-camera takes that output, and resizes it before producing the smaller size JPG that you get when you select a lower megapixel output for JPG.

 

[Cowseye]

The only way to do it is to use the 3 cropped mode in-camera. 1.2x, 5:4 and DX mode (1.5x).
however, as my friend had pointed out, that's not the point....

 

[subzero]

I have tried printing poster size portrait and landscape pictures (sharp images on screen even after 100x zoom) and I must agree 12mp camera print look pretty decent from a comfortable distance. However I cannot help scrutinizing it at a close distance and it look far from perfect to me. I am not sure if it is the plotter machine that the printing company use or it is due to lack of pixel.

Big Print | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Flickr: Discussing large print sizes in Nikon D700

Yes, arguably most people think you can't make large prints out of 12 megapixels. But we tend to forget that you don't go up close and personal even if the print is large. There is a comfortable viewing distance to take the whole print in, and that's what we should be considering. I've seen poster-sized prints from 10-12 megapixel DSLRs that look good.