What wide-angle to buy...


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I am planning to get a D200 next month and am wondering what wide-angle lens to buy. I like to take scenic shots especially when on vacation with my family. I have some old lenses like the 35-70mm and 70-300mm already (which is why I am getting a D200 iso D70). Any advice on what new lens to get from the following or other recomemndations? Prices are picked from the Nikon price guide in this forum.

1. Nikon 12-24mm f4 at $1600
2. Nikon 17-55mm f2.8 at $2100
3. Nikon 18-70mm f3.5 at $410
4. Tamron 11-18mm f4.5-5.6 at $835
5. Sigma 12-24mm f4.5-5.6 at $1200
6. Nikon 18-200mm f3.5-5.6 at $1250

I am tempted to go for the #4. Number 6 is great but I am not sure of the quality and speed compared to the rest. If the overwhelming suggestion is to go for numbers 1 or 2 given quality, I guess I will find some way to find the money.

Any recommendations?

Get the Tokina 12-24mm, I have one and I love it.... and I use it as my walk around lens.
 

just tested both lens sigma 10-20 ($860) and tokina 12-24 ($830) today at TK

would prefer the tokina for its build and material used.
but the extra 2mm from the sigma is really impressive

hv some pics of both the lens tested at the shop .. if u want can drop me a PM
 

Get the Tokina 12-24 f4, it is fantastic for low light photography and especially well suited as a walkabout lens. Built like a tank, razor sharp with vivid color rendition and contrast. Made in Japan. I used to buy all nikon lenses but this lens totally changed my perspective for lesser known brands.
 

sigma 10-20:thumbsup:
the build not sucky at all.. :nono:
but the coating on lens tend to wear out as times go by.. :cry:
wat i do? might as well peel off all the coating.. :sweat:
not nice?
go for a gaffer.. :lovegrin:
 

I've been using the Tokina 12-24mm for some time now. No regrets. 95% as good as the equavalent Nikkor and much better made as well. Zooming is smooth, and autofocus accuracy is spot-on with my D200. My photo-buddy who's a Nikkor freak tried it once and was amazed at its performance. Some say the Nikkor has better colour.. could be, but the difference isn't THAT much. Go check it out - make sure it focusses accurately with what you're using. Paid $860
 

The tokina 12-24's image quality is really bad at wide aperture, ie f4, would only get better when boosted to ard f8 and onwards [i use it almost 25 times per week, due to work] . . on the other hand, i've tested the sigma 10-20 at john's place, is a real buy in terms of built and quality. With the little price difference, would rather get an extra 2mm with better off quality.
 

The tokina 12-24's image quality is really bad at wide aperture, ie f4, would only get better when boosted to ard f8 and onwards [i use it almost 25 times per week, due to work] . . on the other hand, i've tested the sigma 10-20 at john's place, is a real buy in terms of built and quality. With the little price difference, would rather get an extra 2mm with better off quality.
true... but @ f8-11 the sharpness is amazing... :bigeyes:
 

oh Okay. Thanks. Was reading the review for this lens at kenrockwell...

Any one has used the Nikkor AF 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5D IF-ED and Sigma 15-30mm F3.5-4.5
before? Or what abt the Tamron SP AF17-35mm F/2.8-4 Di LD Aspherical (IF)?
Torn between these few lenses...

Always go for original brand... If can afford,of course,go for the trinity lens which more people will agree with me it's real :thumbsup: .The Nikon 17-35mm F2.8 which cost about 2.4k +/-if not then go for his " brother" ,18-35mm F3.5-4.5 cost about $950.. . My semi-pro friend told me.... Compare Tamron 17-35mm to Nikon 18-35mm Tamron:thumbsd: :thumbsd: :thumbsd: .Cos the photo looks much much softer... Dun believe??? Go ahead & test... So that's why I rather get 18-35mm which I'm using now.. anyway both lens having almost the same price.. Just merely a bit different but can let you takes better photo.. So why not.. Never compromise quality with price.. Cos you gonna regretted after buying it & later see your lens in the B&S forum.. So why waste your time & $$ right...
 

Always go for original brand... If can afford,of course,go for the trinity lens which more people will agree with me it's real :thumbsup: .The Nikon 17-35mm F2.8 which cost about 2.4k +/-if not then go for his " brother" ,18-35mm F3.5-4.5 cost about $950.. . My semi-pro friend told me.... Compare Tamron 17-35mm to Nikon 18-35mm Tamron:thumbsd: :thumbsd: :thumbsd: .Cos the photo looks much much softer... Dun believe??? Go ahead & test... So that's why I rather get 18-35mm which I'm using now.. anyway both lens having almost the same price.. Just merely a bit different but can let you takes better photo.. So why not.. Never compromise quality with price.. Cos you gonna regretted after buying it & later see your lens in the B&S forum.. So why waste your time & $$ right...
maybe he got a bad copy from tamron... tamron 17-35 f2.8-4 was known to give very :thumbsup: result unless its a lemon...
 

maybe he got a bad copy from tamron... tamron 17-35 f2.8-4 was known to give very :thumbsup: result unless its a lemon...

:bsmilie: .. do u know he only buy in trinity lens?? if not after few days u can see his lens @ B&S forum.. Not to side him or basis to certain brand or whatever .. I myself had tried out this two lenses.. Indeed,Nikon stands out ... If still dun believe,brother why not u go and buy the 18-35mm or maybe just borrow from friends that have it to compare the results...If Nikon will lose out to Tamron,I think Nikon's R&D expertise will have to hide in the cave to do research... "Normally" for semi-pro or real pro will only go for original & not 3rd party.. But for newbie liked me,of course,I need to try them out & seek advice from pro in order not to waste unnessary $$ lor..heehee..
 

:bsmilie: .. do u know he only buy in trinity lens?? if not after few days u can see his lens @ B&S forum.. Not to side him or basis to certain brand or whatever .. I myself had tried out this two lenses.. Indeed,Nikon stands out ... If still dun believe,brother why not u go and buy the 18-35mm or maybe just borrow from friends that have it to compare the results...If Nikon will lose out to Tamron,I think Nikon's R&D expertise will have to hide in the cave to do research... "Normally" for semi-pro or real pro will only go for original & not 3rd party.. But for newbie liked me,of course,I need to try them out & seek advice from pro in order not to waste unnessary $$ lor..heehee..
up to you... im just saying what i feel.
infact i trust all the 3rd party brand (sigma/tokina/tamron) as much as nikon, tho for the same price, i definitely get nikon. :bsmilie:
 

I am quite sua-ku here. Can someone explain to me what is a trinity lens?
 

I am quite sua-ku here. Can someone explain to me what is a trinity lens?
its just 3 nikkor lens made up by i dono who. :embrass:
the combination of those lens depends on indiviual... the most common combo is
17-35 f2.8
28-70 f2.8
70-200VR f2.8
 

up to you... im just saying what i feel.
infact i trust all the 3rd party brand (sigma/tokina/tamron) as much as nikon, tho for the same price, i definitely get nikon. :bsmilie:

Different people have different concept of good lens... for newbie liked me,if really can't afford or not found in B&S forum,I will then buy brand new.If not I just get the better 1 from B&S.. cheaper & better.. once again... I ain't basis against 3rd party brand cos I'm also using the Tamron 28-70mm..;p Cos Nikon selling @ 2 over K le... I do rather use this $$ to get my D200 better..
 

true... but @ f8-11 the sharpness is amazing... :bigeyes:

but but but...

most lenses reach their optimal performance at around f8-f11!




except for 105 and 135DC... these lenses are meant for speed.
 

i'm thinking of getting 12-24 nikon.

can someone please point me to a thread with pics taken by this lens?
is the distortion at 12mm very bad?

thanks
 

Went to John 3:16 to get a Tokina and ended up testing the Tokina 12-24 and the Sigma 10-20 side by side. Immediately noticed Sigma has better colour accuracy. Tokina has obvious green cast. The Sigma consistently took pics where the colour was as seen by the naked eye.

Tried 2 Sigmas though and got the 2nd cos the first was soft at the right side.

The 2mm diff translates to 15-30 and 18-36mm. So the Sigma gives 3mm more in practice, which can be useful in tight situations (I have to fit an estimated 2million people into a shot in Nigeria next month - no exaggeration)

Sigma build quality is good except for crappy front and rear lens caps.

The Sigma is lighter than the Tokina but I already find the Sigma's weight hurts my middle finger after short while so I would not want the extra weight of the Tokina.

Figure the slower speed won't affect much as my other lenses will be on most of the time and this lens will only be used when I want to shoot at ultra-wide not at it's max zoom setting so both will be at F4.
 

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