What is a Perfect lens for newbie ?


SilentSeth said:
Chill bro, a bit of joke will not hurt. Besides, his point is correct, there is no perfect lens for newbie (as per the thread title).

but since you want to take portraits and landscape on crop body, probably can invest in sigma 30mm f1.4 or canon 28mm f1.8, plus a wide angle lens.

I think you can get both for around 1000 sgd if you buy second hand.

Thanks you for info..! I'll try to get those as your's opinion !
 

Ok ! ..I'll try to post but not now cos I'm using my mobile and I don't have pic! ok back to suggestion , what I meant that when I blow up (a little bits only ) , image got spots and noise even through I used largest aperture !

yup, post the photo, then we try to isolate the issue, if there is any.
 

Bro .., I requested advice from senior as I respect to them(included you) .., and would like to understand which is good for learning stage( non-professional ) ! If my question was wrong , forget about it! But don't waste your time to make funny with me!

Chill chill... Not trying to make fun of you. Just saying that the companies deliberately do not make a "all in one" lens because they want us to buy and buy, so they can make lots of profit
 

yup, post the photo, then we try to isolate the issue, if there is any.

Hi ,, Here it is..
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Chill chill... Not trying to make fun of you. Just saying that the companies deliberately do not make a "all in one" lens because they want us to buy and buy, so they can make lots of profit


hahah...ok ok i see bro... sorry for earlier reply.:D:D
 

you can also consider getting 2 used lenses from buy and sell section. With a 1k budget u can get:

- tokina 12-24mm F4 for landscape ($400++)
- Sigma 50mm F1.4 for portraits ($500++)
 



Your photo looks ok to me. I viewed it at the largest size. The focus seems to be above her eyes, on the forehead/hair... and that looks sharp

you mean the "noise" is in the background? If you need the background(where the yellow flowers are) to be sharp, you might need the aperture to be about f8-f11
 

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Your photo looks ok to me. I viewed it at the largest size. The focus seems to be above her eyes, on the forehead/hair... and that looks sharp

you mean the "noise" is in the background? If you need the background(where the yellow flowers are) to be sharp, you might need the aperture to be about f8-f11

is it? but i think that have to improve ..right? However , just ask you honestly ,what is your opinion that shell I upgrade the lens or keep and enjoy with that?
 

Your photo looks ok to me. I viewed it at the largest size. The focus seems to be above her eyes, on the forehead/hair... and that looks sharp

you mean the "noise" is in the background? If you need the background(where the yellow flowers are) to be sharp, you might need the aperture to be about f8-f11

Ya the photo look ok leh. If want everything sharp, buy a f8 lens and above, ditch those f1.4-f4 lens, those lens make background blurrr at wide open.
 

is it? but i think that have to improve ..right? However , just ask you honestly ,what is your opinion that shell I upgrade the lens or keep and enjoy with that?

I suggest that you use the lens for a while more until you discover that you need something else. To be honest, I am quite impressed with the image quality of the 18-135mm. I was trying to look for "faults" in your photo, but it looks fine.

If you are referring to the background blur that is not sharp, then you probably haven't have a good understanding of the aperture. Try shoot at f8 and see if you can get the results that you are expecting
 

Agree, the picture looks OK. I dunno what else to suggest if you still want it to be sharper..

By the way, my usual suggestion, you can rent & try before you buy. Places like rentcamera@sg, etc.. Just google.
 

photoart said:
I suggest that you use the lens for a while more until you discover that you need something else. To be honest, I am quite impressed with the image quality of the 18-135mm. I was trying to look for "faults" in your photo, but it looks fine.

If you are referring to the background blur that is not sharp, then you probably haven't have a good understanding of the aperture. Try shoot at f8 and see if you can get the results that you are expecting

Hi all ,, now I got the point..! May be my cupidity is too much.., or don't understand ! I'll try with other setting ! Thanks you guys taking ur time and explained to me ..! Please kindly solve the problem when I got any in future ! :)
 

it looks good. (try to show all the body parts eg knee, too. will make the shot more 'complete'. but just my opinion).
 

I recommend 15-85
 

Like others mentioned, the picture looks fine. It's also quite sharp to me already. But, If you are looking for the "pop-out-effect" (as in Subject is sharp, background is blurred out), I suggest reading up on DOF.

btw, If you are seeing "noise" in the picture (which I don't really see any), it may caused by over post processing (e.g. Near black shadows brighten up.) In short, extracting alot of information out of almost no information.

Image Sharpness: Most (not all) lens does not give you the sharpest image at it's widest aperture. Stopping down to f8-11 at times help, but you may be trading off with the DOF. I would suggest reading up on DOF (and the exposure triangle if you are not sure about it)...
 

If you want to take a sharp picture at f8-11, but the shutter speed gets too slow, pop put your flash to do some fill-in, you can use faster shutter ie 1/60 or 1/125 ...
 

Like others mentioned, the picture looks fine. It's also quite sharp to me already. But, If you are looking for the "pop-out-effect" (as in Subject is sharp, background is blurred out), I suggest reading up on DOF.

btw, If you are seeing "noise" in the picture (which I don't really see any), it may caused by over post processing (e.g. Near black shadows brighten up.) In short, extracting alot of information out of almost no information.

Image Sharpness: Most (not all) lens does not give you the sharpest image at it's widest aperture. Stopping down to f8-11 at times help, but you may be trading off with the DOF. I would suggest reading up on DOF (and the exposure triangle if you are not sure about it)...

I think stopping down helps. The image of his daughter seems very crisp, but the background is slightly oof. I personally like it that way but if that's the problem then stopping down to f/6 or so will help.

Soe Wanna: If you're using P mode, you'd want to switch to Av mode so you have control over aperture size. See your manual on how to control aperture (I honestly don't know because I use a Nikon). As someone mentioned stopping down can cause your shutter speed to drop, leading to blurry images because of camera shake or subject movement. Use a fill flash (a proper speedlight - the pop-up flash will often cast shadows if you're using a lens hood) or bump up the ISO to compensate. I wouldn't recommend bumping up ISO beyond maybe 1600 because it can cause very grainy pictures.
 

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