what film

[Royale With Cheese]

you did editing?

these look way more contrasty than whatever i got out of scan with neopan 400cn.

Erm, no editing actually, these are the better looking ones. The others from the rolls of C41 B&W that I took usually turn out really washed out.

Based on my experience before I had a scanner at home, the lab scans for C41 B&W is just plain horrible, I have no idea why, could be because of the lab's default scan settings? Self scanning at home is still the best. Might wanna get a scanner at home & try it.

C41 B&W generally have this very "digital" look, very clean, very sharp, extreme fine grain which is the reason why I gave up on them, they just dont give off that "feel" of the true art of B&W photography.

Some here on Ilford XP2, another C41 film:

The C41 films usually look like those taken with a DSLR then converted to B&W in Photoshop by digital users. Very high in detail but at the same time, very gray scale as you can see from you own experience.

Am more of a true black, true white person, I prefer to sacrifice details for higher contrast. Thats my personal preference anyway. Some people do prefer that grayscale B&W to what I prefer.

This is pure B&W, self processed, self bulk loaded, self scanned:

Ilford Delta 400:

Ilford Delta 100:

Kodak TriX 400

 

[night86mare]

maybe it's the lighting then. most of mine were shot in rather "flat" settings, so perhaps the characteristic stood out way more in such a situation.

i do not know about lab scan versus home scan, still have no scanner, don't think i shoot enough film to justify buying one. maybe when i win 4d.

yes, i know what you mean about "digital" look. i actually personally like tri-x the most.

 

[LexLim]

Some samples of C41 B&W, KodakBW400CN

My conclusion on this film would be its very sharp, very fine grain. Works very well with flash.

Low on contrast when compared to pure B&W films

As expected from top40, truly beautiful shots.

 

[eamesboy]

bro,

i am just asking, because he said that they were low contrast, yet whatever he posted is high contrast. if you haven't noticed.

i myself have a few neopan 400cn film shots, mainly of cats.

these have been manipulated with levels somewhat in photoshop, if you have seen the output from the scans i got, you will understand what i mean...



i'm merely interested as to whether these were edited for personal interest, is that anything wrong??? :dunno:

i think this was not edited, just desaturated, because whatever scans i got back had a bluish/cyan cast to it:



hope you get what i mean.

I fully understand.. sharing is what important the most here.
Doesn't matter what you shoot. We are here to share and make friends.

Just post your photo. People can see for them-self.
Bro, you develop your own b&w film?

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[night86mare]

Bro, you develop your own b&w film?

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i will try next time..

currently, when in london, i only have a small bright room with half-past-six blinds to myself.. don't think it is a good time to learn.

next time when i am more permanently based i will try it for sure! seems like a fun thing to do. right now, just send to lab to develop... :cry:

 

[eamesboy]

maybe it's the lighting then. most of mine were shot in rather "flat" settings, so perhaps the characteristic stood out way more in such a situation.

i do not know about lab scan versus home scan, still have no scanner, don't think i shoot enough film to justify buying one. maybe when i win 4d.

yes, i know what you mean about "digital" look. i actually personally like tri-x the most.

If you do your own develop & scanning.. You have more control for your b&w picture bro.
Developing play a key roll to your pictures too. Personally, what I see your film pictures.
I have far worst than yours.. Hope you could take more film pictures. Good or bad doesn't matter. :thumbsup:



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[eamesboy]

Erm, no editing actually, these are the better looking ones. The others from the rolls of C41 B&W that I took usually turn out really washed out.

Based on my experience before I had a scanner at home, the lab scans for C41 B&W is just plain horrible, I have no idea why, could be because of the lab's default scan settings? Self scanning at home is still the best. Might wanna get a scanner at home & try it.

C41 B&W generally have this very "digital" look, very clean, very sharp, extreme fine grain which is the reason why I gave up on them, they just dont give off that "feel" of the true art of B&W photography.

Some here on Ilford XP2, another C41 film:

The C41 films usually look like those taken with a DSLR then converted to B&W in Photoshop by digital users. Very high in detail but at the same time, very gray scale as you can see from you own experience.

Am more of a true black, true white person, I prefer to sacrifice details for higher contrast. Thats my personal preference anyway. Some people do prefer that grayscale B&W to what I prefer.

This is pure B&W, self processed, self bulk loaded, self scanned:

Ilford Delta 400:

Ilford Delta 100:

Kodak TriX 400

Top 10 shooter!



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[Royale With Cheese]

maybe it's the lighting then. most of mine were shot in rather "flat" settings, so perhaps the characteristic stood out way more in such a situation.

i do not know about lab scan versus home scan, still have no scanner, don't think i shoot enough film to justify buying one. maybe when i win 4d.

yes, i know what you mean about "digital" look. i actually personally like tri-x the most.

You can actually get a scanner for a rather decent price actually. Dont have to follow the poison masters here to get the Epson V700.

Am using the Canon 8800F, about $270-$290, very affordable.

Actually I prefer Ilford Delta really but TriX is one bloody versatile film. You can pull it to asa 100/200 or push it to asa 800/1600, still turns out great! I've just bought a bulk roll of TriX 400 from Ruby, gonna roll it before I head off the the UK, could really do with a versatile film like that when am travelling, too bright, pull back, too dark, push the film. :thumbsup:

Its a good film for people new into B&W film shooting. Very forgiving film if you screw up your processing of the film, the pictures still turn out.

Anyone here tried Neopan? Not the C41 but the Neopan 400 & Neopan 1600? I have yet to try it but based on some opinions, I heard it is a high detail film like AGFA APX which I hate....

Also, what I heard about Neopan is that pushing & pulling will result in nice contrast shots but if shot at desiginated asa, its rather flat, grayscale just like AGFA APX?

I tried 2 rolls of AGFA APX so far, didnt like the feel it gave off, not to mention, expensive film as well @#$%

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Top 10 shooter!

havent reach your standard yet bro!

See you on Sunday, you bringing which meimei come to RF.SG kopi session? Got spare for me? :bsmilie:

As expected from top40, truly beautiful shots.

Thank you dude! You can do it too! :thumbsup:

 

[eamesboy]

You can actually get a scanner for a rather decent price actually. Dont have to follow the poison masters here to get the Epson V700.

Am using the Canon 8800F, about $270-$290, very affordable.

Actually I prefer Ilford Delta really but TriX is one bloody versatile film. You can pull it to asa 100/200 or push it to asa 800/1600, still turns out great! I've just bought a bulk roll of TriX 400 from Ruby, gonna roll it before I head off the the UK, could really do with a versatile film like that when am travelling, too bright, pull back, too dark, push the film. :thumbsup:

Its a good film for people new into B&W film shooting. Very forgiving film if you screw up your processing of the film, the pictures still turn out.

Anyone here tried Neopan? Not the C41 but the Neopan 400 & Neopan 1600? I have yet to try it but based on some opinions, I heard it is a high detail film like AGFA APX which I hate....

Also, what I heard about Neopan is that pushing & pulling will result in nice contrast shots but if shot at desiginated asa, its rather flat, grayscale just like AGFA APX?

I tried 2 rolls of AGFA APX so far, didnt like the feel it gave off, not to mention, expensive film as well @#$%

V700 is the best.. :sticktong

Neopan is bad for your pocket.. the Neopan1600 is :heart:.

AGFA is for artist like you bro.. ha ha.. I have 180 rolls expired delta100 FOC from my friend.
Can shoot till I cant feel my finger.. :bsmilie:


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[LexLim]

havent reach your standard yet bro!

See you on Sunday, you bringing which meimei come to RF.SG kopi session? Got spare for me? :bsmilie:




Thank you dude! You can do it too! :thumbsup:

Ops i didn't noe you're no longer in top 40 but top 10
I might go grab a few rolls of c-41 BnW films later thanks to you:bsmilie:

 

[night86mare]

Am using the Canon 8800F, about $270-$290, very affordable.

:think::think::think:

 

[eamesboy]

havent reach your standard yet bro!

See you on Sunday, you bringing which meimei come to RF.SG kopi session? Got spare for me? :bsmilie:




Thank you dude! You can do it too! :thumbsup:

I only have one can.. :angel:
She might not be free? Where yours?
Text me your timing. I come over to fetch u.. So, coffee or beer on you? ha ha



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[night86mare]

Anyone here tried Neopan? Not the C41 but the Neopan 400 & Neopan 1600? I have yet to try it but based on some opinions, I heard it is a high detail film like AGFA APX which I hate....

nope, but i saw some online going at thirtysix (expired) .. iso1600 one for $6 per roll.. so you can try if you want. ;p

 

[night86mare]

If you do your own develop & scanning.. You have more control for your b&w picture bro.
Developing play a key roll to your pictures too. Personally, what I see your film pictures.
I have far worst than yours.. Hope you could take more film pictures. Good or bad doesn't matter. :thumbsup:



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yeah, i heard about that too... i'll go and read up more during my summer break.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

AGFA is for artist like you bro.. ha ha.. I have 180 rolls expired delta100 FOC from my friend.
Can shoot till I cant feel my finger.. :bsmilie:


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Alamak boss, I not artist yet la, still got many years of pratice to become artist! Hopefully can akan datang soon with so many masters here to guide me.

But I still dont like AGFA APX

Waste my $$ the other time, du lan ;(

Ops i didn't noe you're no longer in top 40 but top 10
I might go grab a few rolls of c-41 BnW films later thanks to you

Try one or two rolls first, you might now end up liking it, the shots I posted here are the "better" ones, the cannot make it ones are really washed out.

Try using high contrast color filters to force contrast in. Green or red would be a good to try out. But do bear in mind that you lose 2 stops when green & red filters.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

I only have one can.. :angel:
She might not be free? Where yours?
Text me your timing. I come over to fetch u.. So, coffee or beer on you? ha ha



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Mine like not here not there! ahahahaha! Not yet successful because behind every successful man is a nagging gf.

Can can, kopi, beer also can, no problem, I'll call you on Sunday morning.

nope, but i saw some online going at thirtysix (expired) .. iso1600 one for $6 per roll.. so you can try if you want.

Dont think I will try so soon, got 100feet of TriX at home waiting for me to roll it & can push to 1600 also no problem.

 

[night86mare]

Dont think I will try so soon, got 100feet of TriX at home waiting for me to roll it & can push to 1600 also no problem.

i'm jealous!

 

[eamesboy]

Mine like not here not there! ahahahaha! Not yet successful because behind every successful man is a nagging gf.

Can can, kopi, beer also can, no problem, I'll call you on Sunday morning.





Dont think I will try so soon, got 100feet of TriX at home waiting for me to roll it & can push to 1600 also no problem.

Yup... Text or call me..
Neopan1600 is good stuff. I try to push TriX few rolls all look like S**t. hai..
But, all I use is expired film.. Ha ha. Cheapo me...


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[Royale With Cheese]

i'm jealous!

Just hop down to Ruby to get some!

I got bulk rolls of Ilford Delta 100 & Kodak TriX 400.

You can get those cheap old school bulk loaders off ebay, shouldnt be more than $50 including shipping.

Or you can get the spanking new AP bulk loaders from Ruby, about $80++? Comes with 10 reload-able canisters.

Am not a big fan of the reload-able canisters, I use the standard used canisters. Can get them at labs for free, coz they throw them away anyway

Yup... Text or call me..
Neopan1600 is good stuff. I try to push TriX few rolls all look like S**t. hai..
But, all I use is expired film.. Ha ha. Cheapo me...

I can pass you a few rolls to try out after I roll the TriX