the 14-24 and the 12-24 are totally different. 12-24 is DX and is equivalent to 18mm on a FF body. 14-24 is 14mm on a FF body. and the 4mm is a big difference in wide angle shots
What do you think of the NEW Nikon AF-S 14-24 mm and 24-70 mm F2.8G ED?
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the 14-24 and the 12-24 are totally different. 12-24 is DX and is equivalent to 18mm on a FF body. 14-24 is 14mm on a FF body. and the 4mm is a big difference in wide angle shots
aiya but how many people here will get the D3? So expensive unless you are a pro.
But it is good at least it will put price pressue on the canon 5D. I think the new 5D must be significantly cheaper than the D3 as it probably loses out on things like AF, build, etc.
Anyway once Nikon releases the D3, I am sure they will put out a cheaper version of full-frame D3 in the NEAR FUTURE to compete with the canon 5D.
Finally we should see full-frame DSLRs coming to being affordable.
Anyway seriously 24 and 28mm is HUGE difference. I would consider 28mm not wide enough for many cases and the 24mm just sufficient. Although 20mm would really be good. Anything wider is really hard to use.
But for full frame lens, the LENS that I want is actually the canon 24-105 mm f4 IS. Nikon should release something like that if they hope to compete for the cheaper advance amateur market of canon 5D.
But it is good at least it will put price pressue on the canon 5D. I think the new 5D must be significantly cheaper than the D3 as it probably loses out on things like AF, build, etc.
Anyway once Nikon releases the D3, I am sure they will put out a cheaper version of full-frame D3 in the NEAR FUTURE to compete with the canon 5D.
Finally we should see full-frame DSLRs coming to being affordable.
Anyway seriously 24 and 28mm is HUGE difference. I would consider 28mm not wide enough for many cases and the 24mm just sufficient. Although 20mm would really be good. Anything wider is really hard to use.
But for full frame lens, the LENS that I want is actually the canon 24-105 mm f4 IS. Nikon should release something like that if they hope to compete for the cheaper advance amateur market of canon 5D.
i believe this will be the trend
FF cams will become cheaper in the NEAR FUTURE then we will have reason to buy the 2 new lenses!! 
just my opinion, no point in getting the 14-24 if you will use it in a DX body cos the 12-24 will still be wider. BUT the 14-24 might have a better image quality and it is also a 2.8 lens.
sykestang
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My personal view... Wide-angle lenses like 14mm, the need of f/2.8 is not that necessary. Such a wide landscape lens, mostly used aperture will be >f/8 in most situation.
My only concerns for the 14-24 is:
i. Colour/contrast output.
ii. CA & Sharpness issues.
iii. Distortion control of the lens.
Current already see some disadvantages in the lens already.
i. Cannot use a Front Filter by the looks of it.
ii. Using a CirPL will be a question cos the lens dun seems to have a rear filter slot also. Even if it does, the cost of the rear Cir-PL is expensive as it would have to be manufactured to a much better quality coating and glass than those front mounted ones and also have a gear dial for turning the filter.
iii. Built-in Hood is not that easy to keep, cos the front dia with hood should be ard ~100mm. Not to mention the front lens cover will be a cap like those of a fisheye and increase another 2-4mm to the dia. Scratching the front element is unavoidable with a protude from element. And the question on cost in replacing the hood if it cracks/breaks... :dunno: From experience, NSC will tell you that the hood comes in as a front component with the front lens element most probably, ~$300 maybe. :bsmilie:
But we still have yet to see... November we shall clear our doubts.
My only concerns for the 14-24 is:
i. Colour/contrast output.
ii. CA & Sharpness issues.
iii. Distortion control of the lens.
Current already see some disadvantages in the lens already.
i. Cannot use a Front Filter by the looks of it.
ii. Using a CirPL will be a question cos the lens dun seems to have a rear filter slot also. Even if it does, the cost of the rear Cir-PL is expensive as it would have to be manufactured to a much better quality coating and glass than those front mounted ones and also have a gear dial for turning the filter.
iii. Built-in Hood is not that easy to keep, cos the front dia with hood should be ard ~100mm. Not to mention the front lens cover will be a cap like those of a fisheye and increase another 2-4mm to the dia. Scratching the front element is unavoidable with a protude from element. And the question on cost in replacing the hood if it cracks/breaks... :dunno: From experience, NSC will tell you that the hood comes in as a front component with the front lens element most probably, ~$300 maybe. :bsmilie:
But we still have yet to see... November we shall clear our doubts.
2.8photography
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My personal view... Wide-angle lenses like 14mm, the need of f/2.8 is not that necessary. Such a wide landscape lens, mostly used aperture will be >f/8 in most situation.
My only concerns for the 14-24 is:
i. Colour/contrast output.
ii. CA & Sharpness issues.
iii. Distortion control of the lens.
Current already see some disadvantages in the lens already.
i. Cannot use a Front Filter by the looks of it.
ii. Using a CirPL will be a question cos the lens dun seems to have a rear filter slot also. Even if it does, the cost of the rear Cir-PL is expensive as it would have to be manufactured to a much better quality coating and glass than those front mounted ones and also have a gear dial for turning the filter.
iii. Built-in Hood is not that easy to keep, cos the front dia with hood should be ard ~100mm. Not to mention the front lens cover will be a cap like those of a fisheye and increase another 2-4mm to the dia. Scratching the front element is unavoidable with a protude from element. And the question on cost in replacing the hood if it cracks/breaks... :dunno: From experience, NSC will tell you that the hood comes in as a front component with the front lens element most probably, ~$300 maybe. :bsmilie:
But we still have yet to see... November we shall clear our doubts.
Same here, don't like the permenant lens hood on the 14-24
sykestang
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Other than the use of a brighter view-finder... the real use of f/2.8 to justify for the much higher expected price may not be justifiable.
However I don't disagree totally with you, cos different ppl have different needs. But personally speaking, the current AFS12-24 f/4 is a little disappointing in terms of usage and image production.
So you think they should start painting them white and use a red ring instead of a gold one? ;p The 17-55/2.8 looks great when mounted on D2X. ;p
Scaglietti
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For the DX format, as you said, the 14-24 might not be justifiable. But I think 14-24 will be great for the FX format, you've got to get a 9-16mm to match that in the DX format.Other than the use of a brighter view-finder... the real use of f/2.8 to justify for the much higher expected price may not be justifiable.
However I don't disagree totally with you, cos different ppl have different needs. But personally speaking, the current AFS12-24 f/4 is a little disappointing in terms of usage and image production.
I think it is a break through in design to have such a wide angle zoom for the FX format with a large f/2.8 aperture. Now, we just got to wait and see the photos that this lens can deliver.
BC
Bernard Ong
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Just a question, can both 14-24 and 24-70 f2.8 be used on a film body? eg. F100?
DPreview dod not mention this.:dunno:
DPreview dod not mention this.:dunno:
Scaglietti
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Ansel
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Why not? It is understood. These are FF lenses. :thumbsup:
yyD70S
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Yes.
The AF-S 24-70mm f/2.8 would be very useful on the FX and still useful on the DX.
The AF-S 24-70mm f/2.8 would be very useful on the FX and still useful on the DX.
Yes.
The AF-S 24-70mm f/2.8 would be very useful on the FX and still useful on the DX.
That's why Nikon is GOOD!! It's almost a 35-105 FoV on DX. Even the 14-24 is good. It's almost a 20-35 FoV on DX.
Bernard Ong
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In this case, both new lenses will become more useful for photographers to capture the image they looking for.
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