what do you like about 4/3?


Sharp sharp sharp photos. If u want sharp, you should go 4/3. In fact, Olympus 4/3 system are for pixel peepers. LOL!!! If u want bokeh that is easy to get, then get a 135 full frame system. That seems to be the only reason to go that route.
 

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with 4/3 cam you get real noise OOC.

If you want to clean noise, there are plenty of software to do that.
If you want to add noise... there are not many software then produce nice noise.
 

what is the proper way to change lense? :sweat:
Soli..Donno. All I know is remove lens, then cover the lens with cap, remove the lens cap from the lens you want to use then keep cap away the put cap on camera body. Heard there is a ritual for that and a way where the camera must face and not just hang around the neck when the lens is removed.:embrass:
 

Sharp sharp sharp photos. If u want sharp, you should go 4/3. In fact, Olympus 4/3 system are for pixel peepers. LOL!!! If u want bokeh that is easy to get, then get a 135 full frame system. That seems to be the only reason to go that route.

with 4/3 cam you get real noise OOC.

If you want to clean noise, there are plenty of software to do that.
If you want to add noise... there are not many software then produce nice noise.


Wrong!! DANG!! If u want sharp sharp & noise noise, u must use a handphone camera to take pics HAHAHAHA!!! :bsmilie: :bsmilie: Nothing beats that for such image properties


Coming back to the title of this thread... shudn't it be about the format instead of a brand likings? What happen to Panny & all the other accessories co. & lens co. jumping into the wagon?
 

with 4/3 cam you get real noise OOC.

If you want to clean noise, there are plenty of software to do that.
If you want to add noise... there are not many software then produce nice noise.

Thats true..LOL!!! But there is grainy filter.

BTW, the best cameras in the world...ie LEICA.....only has ISO till 1600. I dun even understand....


Wrong!! DANG!! If u want sharp sharp & noise noise, u must use a handphone camera to take pics HAHAHAHA!!! :bsmilie: :bsmilie: Nothing beats that for such image properties


Coming back to the title of this thread... shudn't it be about the format instead of a brand likings? What happen to Panny & all the other accessories co. & lens co. jumping into the wagon?

Handphone can take sharp photos? NO WAY!!! LOL!

Anyway, I was looking at some photos take by D700....the bokeh is definately better, but if u pixel peep, the subject aint sharp. Also, shots that I would shoot at ISO1000 or below on 4/3 or m4/3, the D700 has to shoot at ISO 2000. In fact, if u judge the photos on LCD screen without blowing up to 100%, the 135 full frame looks better because of the bokeh. But if u blow it up, u can see that the subject is smeared ---maybe because of higher ISO, or because of noise reduction, or because the lens is not as sharp. Whatever the case, this is the result that I can see. So let me tell you guys....if u pixel peeper, u better use Zuiko and 4/3 system. If u are facebook photo fan or just low res photo fan, u can get by with the photos from Canikon full frame systems. But if u are a bokeh lover, full frame is the way to go!! LOL!!!!!
 

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Anyway, I was looking at some photos take by D700....the bokeh is definately better, but if u pixel peep, the subject aint sharp. Also, shots that I would shoot at ISO1000 or below on 4/3 or m4/3, the D700 has to shoot at ISO 2000. In fact, if u judge the photos on LCD screen without blowing up to 100%, the 135 full frame looks better because of the bokeh. But if u blow it up, u can see that the subject is smeared ---maybe because of higher ISO, or because of noise reduction, or because the lens is not as sharp. Whatever the case, this is the result that I can see. So let me tell you guys....if u pixel peeper, u better use Zuiko and 4/3 system. If u are facebook photo fan or just low res photo fan, u can get by with the photos from Canikon full frame systems. But if u are a bokeh lover, full frame is the way to go!! LOL!!!!!

Wow, my challenge to you is to repeat this statement up at "General Tech Talk" and I am sure you will have a fun time defending this claim.
 

Handphone can take sharp photos? NO WAY!!! LOL!

If u are facebook photo fan or just low res photo fan, u can get by with the photos from Canikon full frame systems. But if u are a bokeh lover, full frame is the way to go!! LOL!!!!!

Sharp la, in the context of no bokeh HAHAHAHA!! Simply unbeatable :bsmilie:

Oly or Panny can develop a simple 43 P&S with only 3.3MP that can accept SIM card for the purpose of..... U guess it right.... ALL THE FACEBOOK ADDICTS IN THE WORLD!!!! There'll be a dedicated button for posting to facebook. :lovegrin: And this is the historical super low noise 43 sensor camera :p
 

Camera manufacturers make their profits from lens and body. When they put their lens development on hold, they're effectively saying they don't see a growing market and cutting back on their R&D efforts to save costs. If the market continues to stagnate or shrinks, they will continue to futher cut back R&D costs (ie. no new development in body) to maintain their bottom line.

Pretty soon, they will just be in maintenance mode (ie. no new developments in lens and body and is the most cost effective mode) to service existing customers.

The small number of dedicated Olympus users will not be enough for the company to be profitable. It is good that Olympus is doing this as it recognizes the market conditions and is doing something about it. By moving the R&D resources to the m43 development, it is continuing to introduce products in a growing segment of the market.

There is still a slim chance that a new 4/3 DSLR will come up in the next 2 to 3 years, but it will mostly likely be evolutionary, an update of technologies developed on the m4/3 platform and transplanted to the 4/3 platform, rather than revolutionary.

It is too bad that Olympus who created the 4/3 standards did not produce the first m4/3 camera because they were not innovative enough to explore this new form factor. Either they were not innovative enough or did not have the courage to test the market with a revolutionary design.
 

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Camera manufacturers make their profits from lens and body. When they put their lens development on hold, they're effectively saying they don't see a growing market and cutting back on their R&D efforts to save costs. If the market continues to stagnate or shrinks, they will continue to futher cut back R&D costs (ie. no new development in body) to maintain their bottom line.

Pretty soon, they will just be in maintenance mode (ie. no new developments in lens and body and is the most cost effective mode) to service existing customers.

The small number of dedicated Olympus users will not be enough for the company to be profitable. It is good that Olympus is doing this as it recognizes the market conditions and is doing something about it. By moving the R&D resources to the m43 development, it is continuing to introduce products in a growing segment of the market.

There is still a slim chance that a new 4/3 DSLR will come up in the next 2 to 3 years, but it will mostly likely be evolutionary, an update of technologies developed on the m4/3 platform and transplanted to the 4/3 platform, rather than revolutionary.

It is too bad that Olympus who created the 4/3 standards did not produce the first m4/3 camera because they were not innovative enough to explore this new form factor. Either they were not innovative enough or did not have the courage to test the market with a revolutionary design.

They may not be the first to put it on the market but tat does not mean they did not innovate with this form factor. It takes years to produce a camera n the ep1 was prob in the works wn panasonic came out with their m4/3.
 

They may not be the first to put it on the market but tat does not mean they did not innovate with this form factor. It takes years to produce a camera n the ep1 was prob in the works wn panasonic came out with their m4/3.

you're right that there is a lead time for a product to come out. Panasonic too had to spend some time to get it into market, they have to follow the development cycle just like everyone else. It's just that Panasonic started the development efforts sooner than Olympus, this is in spite of the fact that Olympus should have a headstart on anything to do with 4/3. They saw the market potential faster than Olympus.
 

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