Video-Editing Competency

[kristian]

I will consider HDV as comsumer HD, if you ever tried a PRO HD, the colours and picture quality is really amazing, stuff like Sony XDCAM series. In video, the clarity & quality is very important.
Take a 10 MP PNS and a 10MP DSLR, which on will have a better output & performance??? No doubt, its DSLR... same as HDV vs HD and this bring us to the earlier stage where MiniDV vs SD... but ultimately, the best performer out there are those 8/16/35mm rolling film camera with rotormotor, thats to me is truely first class, no digital current can match its' performance and output, but than again, this is already a level beyond us... we are talking about Hollywood productions.

The best is, when customers ask, just educate them on what you produce and be honest, better than one fine day one guy comes and say, my friend hor... say your work not HD leh... hahahahahaha:thumbsup:

This is weird. There's SD (standard definition) and there's HD (high definition) as broadcast formats. HDV, DVCPRO HD, XDCAM HD are all compression technologies. MiniDV is an SD format. Anything above 720p can be considered HD.

The limitation of HDV (as a compression format) is in its sampling resolution which makes pulling keys and colour corrections difficult. However, it's a great lightweight acqusition format. That does not make it not HD. Most professionals will transcode it into a more easily editable format like DVCPRO HD or Uncompressed at 8 or 10 bit.

Take a 10 MP PNS and a 10MP DSLR, which on will have a better output & performance???

I would say the one in a more compentent operator. You'll also need to look at what kind of sensors, lens etc are being used. There will be an difference between something shot with a consumer HDV camera vs a semi-professional HDV camera. The alogrithmn that packs the data to tape is the same.

The best is, when customers ask, just educate them on what you produce and be honest, better than one fine day one guy comes and say, my friend hor... say your work not HD leh... hahahahahaha

There's good HD and there's bad HD just like there are good 8 megapixel images and bad 8 megapixel images. If it's 1920x1080 or 1280x720, it's HD.

 

[samvision]

I will consider HDV as comsumer HD, if you ever tried a PRO HD, the colours and picture quality is really amazing, stuff like Sony XDCAM series. In video, the clarity & quality is very important.
Take a 10 MP PNS and a 10MP DSLR, which on will have a better output & performance??? No doubt, its DSLR... same as HDV vs HD and this bring us to the earlier stage where MiniDV vs SD... but ultimately, the best performer out there are those 8/16/35mm rolling film camera with rotormotor, thats to me is truely first class, no digital current can match its' performance and output, but than again, this is already a level beyond us... we are talking about Hollywood productions.

The best is, when customers ask, just educate them on what you produce and be honest, better than one fine day one guy comes and say, my friend hor... say your work not HD leh... hahahahahaha:thumbsup:

Cool. are you guys having any gathering coming up ?
can count me in ...
looking for passionate people..
bascially try to a short during the weekdays.
during the off peak season will be good.

 

[ilovehouse]

Cool. are you guys having any gathering coming up ?
can count me in ...
looking for passionate people..
bascially try to a short during the weekdays.
during the off peak season will be good.

COunt me in!

Would love to have a coffee session with all you guys!

 

[ilovehouse]

This is weird. There's SD (standard definition) and there's HD (high definition) as broadcast formats. HDV, DVCPRO HD, XDCAM HD are all compression technologies. MiniDV is an SD format. Anything above 720p can be considered HD.

agreed - bascially, most formats are all compressed unless, you're working with a 270mpbs D1 format. now, that's not compressed. Even HDCAM SR is compressed at 2.7:1 or 4:1 depending on which color sampling ratio you're working at. XDCAM HD is using Blu Ray technology! heh. another sony marketing and cross platform fusion.

The limitation of HDV (as a compression format) is in its sampling resolution which makes pulling keys and colour corrections difficult. However, it's a great lightweight acqusition format. That does not make it not HD. Most professionals will transcode it into a more easily editable format like DVCPRO HD or Uncompressed at 8 or 10 bit.

- HDV at 5:1 and at 4:2:0 is good enough for the current professional market and i know of ppl who use that to shoot TVCs! With proper, lighting, lenses (PS teknic mounts and Zeiss or Cooke lenses), its QUITE comparable . the average consumer might not be able to tell, but expert bros here will be able to tell the difference between HDV/ DVCPRO HD / HDCAM.
(i cant tell. heh)


I would say the one in a more compentent operator. You'll also need to look at what kind of sensors, lens etc are being used. There will be an difference between something shot with a consumer HDV camera vs a semi-professional HDV camera. The alogrithmn that packs the data to tape is the same.

- agreed also. this holds true. the cam operator counts too. heh.

There's good HD and there's bad HD just like there are good 8 megapixel images and bad 8 megapixel images. If it's 1920x1080 or 1280x720, it's HD.

HD or not, its starting to be more widespread. so i figured, read more, try to learn more and apply the most of it.

 

[wobbly]

jeez, arent you all getting a bit entrenched in the technical side?
i refer back to the post:

Bro.. do one movie... cast & crew all from clubsnap videos... you can be actor and director and videoman... same goes to everyone else... ZERO budget, Zero payment, all done and fuel by Passion. Just need one thing.... script and the rest can be plan and execute.

practice with what youve got. practice practice practice.
if you can, get some fcp and avid time in - leave adobe as far as editing goes or you'll be forever stuck in the 'wedding video' segment.
but as i say, practice with what youve got - good or bad editing happens regardless of the app - but its best to get a workflow from industry-standard apps so you have less of a learning curve in the real world.

ive already done some hd shoots and worked with others on hd shoots but the disparity amongst equipement right now [downsampling et al if you dont have access to the right gear] makes it a bit of a pain.