US soldier takes potshots at SAF
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Those US marines/Army forces also lack combat experience. They only attacked those countries they deem unable to fight back and bring the battlefield to their own mother land. Look at Vietnam and Korean Wars.. who was the major backer for these two wars against US which US didn't win? So if they think they are good, I want to see how they would fight with China. :bsmilie:
Static
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:nono: They are so good that they can fight and defeat even aliens.
Remember hor, its the Americans who destroyed the alien mothership in independance day
hor.
Watever holy as$ all got their business.
greenieadi
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Aaah, the malay issue is a sad reminder for me. Now that terrorism is on the rise, many short sighted ppl will equate malay=muslim=terrorist.:bheart:
The fact is I'll defend this land against aggressors, side by side with my chinese, indian, eurasian/etc and malay buddies to our last breath, is not enough to change the fact.
I don't expect the US to help us repel any would be aggressors. Remember, Malaya (our northern neighbours) left us to fend for ourselves, yet not only we survived but prosper.:thumbsup:
I'm won't read too much of such write-ups like by the ang moh. I think if we communicate in singlish in the battlefield sure he blur like sotong!!!!!!:bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
The fact is I'll defend this land against aggressors, side by side with my chinese, indian, eurasian/etc and malay buddies to our last breath, is not enough to change the fact.
I don't expect the US to help us repel any would be aggressors. Remember, Malaya (our northern neighbours) left us to fend for ourselves, yet not only we survived but prosper.:thumbsup:
I'm won't read too much of such write-ups like by the ang moh. I think if we communicate in singlish in the battlefield sure he blur like sotong!!!!!!:bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
The Korean War left a land divided, 1 million landmines in the DMZ, a nation divided into 2 ideologies of state.
The Vietnam War? The body bags start piling up on the US end. My Lai incident. And though this wasn't on official records or on books I'd seen abt Nam, but I'd heard apparently using tunnelling, the Viet Cong were able to penetrate into a US ambush position reversed all the Claymore mines set and faked an attack so that when the Marines detonated all the Claymore Mines on themselves, the entire COY got wiped out.
And BTW, I'm not sure if u'd studied ur history thoroughly. Nam was a major disgrace in US Military and so is the recent Iraq war. And the Korean War in the 50s? It never ended as both sides declared a stalemate and signed an armstruce which simply means "No more bullets fly, but we are still at war".
Yes, more than 50 years after North & South Korea were carved out, both countries remain technically at war.
well, calling what he wrote "taking potshots" seems a little unfair to me. that's already a strong judgement on the accuracy of what he wrote, plus the spirit he wrote it in.
maybe we don't need to be so angry and defensive about what he wrote. does how the US army behave etc affect the accuracy of his observations? they're separate issues.
well yes, many of the things he talks about aren't new. they've been open secrets and the subject of coffeeshop talk for ages. what i feel is good is that by writing what he did, he's (intentionally or not) pushed mindef to officially discuss these issues. it's like how steve chia asked about white horses in parliament... most guys know there's such a thing, but in the end the govt was forced to admit it publicly.
i'm in favour of discussion (ok, with some limits, these are sensitive topics after all). since things like racial integration and national defence are important issues to us, we *should* be talking about them, questioning the reasons things are done the way they are, holding our lawmakers accountable for their decisions rather than just trusting them to do whatever is the best for us.
why not discuss the issues instead of attacking the one who raised them?
maybe we don't need to be so angry and defensive about what he wrote. does how the US army behave etc affect the accuracy of his observations? they're separate issues.
well yes, many of the things he talks about aren't new. they've been open secrets and the subject of coffeeshop talk for ages. what i feel is good is that by writing what he did, he's (intentionally or not) pushed mindef to officially discuss these issues. it's like how steve chia asked about white horses in parliament... most guys know there's such a thing, but in the end the govt was forced to admit it publicly.
i'm in favour of discussion (ok, with some limits, these are sensitive topics after all). since things like racial integration and national defence are important issues to us, we *should* be talking about them, questioning the reasons things are done the way they are, holding our lawmakers accountable for their decisions rather than just trusting them to do whatever is the best for us.
why not discuss the issues instead of attacking the one who raised them?
i guess most ppl prefer a cheery report than an ugly truth abt topics tt r taboo. its abt being honest w/ urself, d gd & bad aspects, d whole spectrum of it. not many ppl will say "yah, u r rite abt d insights of my shortcomings 1. i will learn on improving in those areas.". 
like Class 95 advert:" hear oni d gd things!"
like Class 95 advert:" hear oni d gd things!"
dr34mc4st3r
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yup agreed, self-serving bias at work! 
the mac 13
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FairPrice *press. :nono: :sticktong
the mac 13
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haha but seriously, I have never sold a pilot any other cancer stick than ultra lights.:dunno:
combat engineers don't have. The only malays in combat engineers are in less sensitive vocations like drivers and medics. They aren't involved in the real demolition work.
To put it in numbers, yes.. combat engineers do have malays but not deployed doing the combat engineer vocations.
1. There has to be a balance between meeting training objectives and taking unnecessary risks. Take live-firing and grenade throwing for example. These are dangerous activities and there have been fatal accidents in the past. But the training is deemed so important that it will never be scrapped. It is vital that every soldier knows and experiences what it is like to fire live rounds and how to use his weapon inside out. Training in inclement weather is something else. By all means train in the rain (and believe me, military exercises do go on despite the rain). However, if there is a risk of lightning strike (Cat 1 weather), better to safeguard your men. No training can ever hope to perfectly replicate actual battle conditions, but it does not mean that the training is not effective. you do not need to set a building on fire to practice a fire drill just for the sake of "realism".
2. IIRC, Col Ishak was a Brigade Commander prior to being BMTC commander. As a Commander of a combined arms unit and a senior officer, he would have been privy to much "sensitive" and highly classified information regarding the SAF. Much more than what a pilot, commando or combat engineer could glean. Of course there are malay officers holding ranks lower than COL, but they would also be privy to "sensitive" and classified military information about Singapore and her neighbours as well.
Former Indonesian President Habibie once remarked that Singapore was a racist state because "no Malay could ever become an officer in the SAF". Now that Mr Walsh has watered that old (and inaccurate) accusation down somewhat, it strikes me as a bit of an exaggeration to claim that "Malays are excluded from sensitive areas" in the SAF.
tokenism?
it is without a doubt that there are many malay officers and senior officers in the army but none to start with from certain arms, like combat engineers, to rise through the ranks. You can find many indians though, maybe if SAF can show some break down for the officer distribution for the various races it will dispel the myths. It's not a 'bad thing' though, cos I have heard that some malays were saying "luckily I will never be posted to combat engineers to do the siong stuff"
Don't be mistaken that I am trying to convey any racist remarks as i do not mean it that way. I do have malay friends and they do agree to what I say as well.
it is without a doubt that there are many malay officers and senior officers in the army but none to start with from certain arms, like combat engineers, to rise through the ranks. You can find many indians though, maybe if SAF can show some break down for the officer distribution for the various races it will dispel the myths. It's not a 'bad thing' though, cos I have heard that some malays were saying "luckily I will never be posted to combat engineers to do the siong stuff"
Don't be mistaken that I am trying to convey any racist remarks as i do not mean it that way. I do have malay friends and they do agree to what I say as well.
leotitude79
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1. Safety in training - SAF being a conscript army, Training and safety comes equally first. Training objectives must be met and at the same time making sure that safety in the training is not compromise. Anything happen, the commanders is actually answerable to the nation, family and everyone.
2. Malay officer - recently there is one Malay officer who commissioned from Sandhurst, who went through his officer cadet training in Sandhurst.
3. Women officer not holding major appointment - There is one women officer who was Commanding officer of a artillery battalion. I think now she have taken a more senior appointment by now.
I feel that we must read up the actual article by Mr Walsh.
2. Malay officer - recently there is one Malay officer who commissioned from Sandhurst, who went through his officer cadet training in Sandhurst.
3. Women officer not holding major appointment - There is one women officer who was Commanding officer of a artillery battalion. I think now she have taken a more senior appointment by now.
I feel that we must read up the actual article by Mr Walsh.
Sion
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I am not afraid of American soldiers leh:
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=264799&page=2
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http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=264799&page=2
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Out of point abit, there's a malaysian who was in ocs as oct and just got commission last sat too..
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