Urgent! Thinking of moving from 550D to mirrorless. Lots of questions!!

[albertri]

Hahaha thanks! I normally cringe at the sight of my face. I hope you did not use logical deduction that the photo of me in the shop is the 20mm.

I am quite tempted to sell the 14-42 kit man. I will probably never use it after gettin my prime. I will still use the 40-150 for zoo and birds what not.

I didn't vote coz I saw this pix somewhere so igot an idea already hehe

Anyways I dont use much my kit lens also (I have two actually crazy right?) I am using my m4/3 mainly for my prime manual lenses nothing else. Also wanted to get Pana 25mm f1.4 and Oly 45mm f1.8 again thse are primes

PS. I actually posted my kits lenses in the BnS to help fund for my next prime lens

 

[skyunicorn]

based on what type of photo you take you need protrait primes than wide angle prime this is based on the photos I've seen you have posted ;-) I have not seen much landscape nor group photos so far mainly all portraits indoors so my best bet either 20mm f1.7 or 25mm f1.4 if you like much narrower field of view the oly 45mm f1.8 its cheaper than the two panasonic and obviously way much cheaper than mZuiko 12 f2

hope this helps

Yes I do mainly portraits and I went to see my most used focal length on my 550d it's 17mm.
So 17*1.6= 27.2 / 2 = 13.6 mm equiv on m4/3

It is easier for me to move in than to move back because sometimes there is no space for me to move backwards.

 

[albertri]

Yes I do mainly portraits and I went to see my most used focal length on my 550d it's 17mm.
So 17*1.6= 27.2 / 2 = 13.6 mm equiv on m4/3

It is easier for me to move in than to move back because sometimes there is no space for me to move backwards.

thats the case you're stuck with either 12 f2 or the cheap 17mm f2.8 but f2.8 may not be fast for your little ones specially indoor lighting unless you're ok bumping up the ISO.

Try this on your Canon + Tamron 17-50 (I also has this lens it's good lens) put it to roughly 30mm see if you can live with field of view? this is almost same field of view of 25mm on 4/3 sensor . I hope you have not sold you Canon.

You can test different focal lenght to simulate you know your canon crop factor 1.6 and 4/3 is half of the full frame see what focal lenght you will like...

 

[cannedpineapples]

Hahaha thanks! I normally cringe at the sight of my face. I hope you did not use logical deduction that the photo of me in the shop is the 20mm.

I am quite tempted to sell the 14-42 kit man. I will probably never use it after gettin my prime. I will still use the 40-150 for zoo and birds what not.

Yes, isn't it natural? I know you got the TLK at 10pm, so can't be from a shop. After which, you proceeded to a shop in the daytime, to test the lens you don't have- 20mm. Since Photo B was obviously a test shot, that had to be the 20mm.

I didn't know it was you in the picture, though

 

[cannedpineapples]

Yes now I have a new problem ! Which one !

I like the f1.7 but wish it to be wider.
I like the 12mm but wish it to have a bigger aperture for more bokeh.

BTW, if you don't mind manual, SLR Magic has a flagship 12mm / 1.6. Half a stop faster and better bokeh.

But honestly, at that Focal Length, the best way to improve bokeh is just to move closer... I would just get the excellent 12/2 Oly.

Between 12 vs 20 though, I'll get the 20. Recall that your original move to m43 was for size. IMO, nothing represents 'small size with excellent quality' quite like the wonderful pancake 20/1.7.

 

[JW73]

After I got my 20mm and 45mm, my 14-42mm is permanently in the dry box...haiz.

 

[Calories]

Since skyunicorn has already bought herself a white E-P3, it is pointless for me to comment on which camera she should buy. But let's face it, the E-M5 is really good but expensive. While it is worth every penny, it clearly sits in a price bracket above the E-P3 and competes with enthusiast-level DSLRs such as Canon 60D and Nikon D7000. From my own experience transitioning from DSLR (60D) to m4/3 (E-M5), the two setups cost about the same ($2,650 for 60D + 15-85 + 50/1.4, $2,500 for E-M5 + 12-50 + 25/1.4) so I was simply trading the pros and cons between the two.

I sometimes miss the clear pentaprism OVF or the comfortable handgrip of my 60D. But the much smaller and lighter E-M5 is seeing much more action because I am more inclined to bring it out for random shots. The 60D used to sit in the dry cabinet most of the time and only gets used overseas. So even though the two systems cost about the same, the E-M5 is much more "value for money" to me.

My god, I am also struggling whether to let go of my DSLR and go to Mirrorless, if I am not sell off my 60D, I scare end up will same like yr 60D, sitting down there at dry cabinet.

 

[trelch]

My god, I am also struggling whether to let go of my DSLR and go to Mirrorless, if I am not sell off my 60D, I scare end up will same like yr 60D, sitting down there at dry cabinet.

My advise is... if you want to make the plunge into the smaller and extremely portable mirrorless, do so quickly, and start accumulating the little lenses, lol.

 

[Oly5050]

hehehe because i have a fatal characteristic flaw. When I want something, I MUST have it NOW !

Sounds like a girl.... Haha
But a bit atypical bec usu girls want bags now, or shoes now, etc. Camera more of a guy thing.

 

[Calories]

My advise is... if you want to make the plunge into the smaller and extremely portable mirrorless, do so quickly, and start accumulating the little lenses, lol.

Waiting...... NEX 7 no stk.......the problem is, should I sell my 60d, or just keep it 1st..

 

[Sispecho]

Waiting...... NEX 7 no stk.......the problem is, should I sell my 60d, or just keep it 1st..

You should just give it to me.

Then you will free yourself from unnecessary burden.

 

[rhema83]

Waiting...... NEX 7 no stk.......the problem is, should I sell my 60d, or just keep it 1st..

First, I want to ask you a question. Why do you want to switch to mirrorless? The 60D is a great camera, and takes awesome pictures when paired with quality lenses. Don't switch unless you have a good reason to.

Next, the NEX 7 is not going to net you much size and weight savings. The body might be smaller and lighter than a DSLR, but the sensor is not. Thus, the NEX lenses are going to be about the same size and weight as your EFS lenses. Just compare the kit 18-55 lenses for the two systems and you'll know what I mean. If you really want small and portable, you should go for micro-4/3. (Not to mention the much wider selection of quality native lenses for m4/3 compared to NEX.)

If you end up getting a mirrorless camera (especially micro-4/3) you should sell your 60D, cos one of the two cameras is going to sit in your dry cabinet and depreciate. Moreover the 60D is already 2 years old and Canon may announce 70D any time in the later part of this year. If you decide later that m4/3 is not suitable for you, you can buy back a 60D for less money or even go for the newer models.

 

[albertri]

Waiting...... NEX 7 no stk.......the problem is, should I sell my 60d, or just keep it 1st..

if you can afford keep your 60D 1st its a good cam even the model its not the latest one it still produces great photos. I am using a not so latest model also EPL2 still works for me. NEX 7 is a good mirrorless with APSC sensor and 24MP and good dynamic range also. Sadly native E-System lenses still not much it's like when m4/3 1st came they only have a handful of lenses and offers an adaptor so you can use thier 4/3 lens line up same goes as NEX they have adaptor for you to mount all A-Mount lenses from Minolta AF lenses till the current Sony line up. But to me that's not the essense of having mirrorless but I'm sure i'll mature like m4/3 that you can have enough lens choices.

To me my advice regardless of brand may be it Samsung, Ricoh, Sony, Panasonic or Olympus if you like the camera and you're ok with the cons or shortcoming of the system go for it. I'm sure any mirrorless system is more portable than your current DSLR.

 

[Oly5050]

Yes I do mainly portraits and I went to see my most used focal length on my 550d it's 17mm.
So 17*1.6= 27.2 / 2 = 13.6 mm equiv on m4/3

It is easier for me to move in than to move back because sometimes there is no space for me to move backwards.

The best portrait lens is yet to be. It is the 75 mm f 1.8 or something like that. Nice big lens. Probably only on sale in Jul or August.

At this time the most parsimonious lens for portraits in my opinion is the 25 mm f1.4. Fantastic bokeh (BTW, quality of bokeh actually depends a lot on lens design), fairly good focal length and superb for low light. Its a little larger than 20 f 1.7 but I think it is significantly better. But if you want the best compromise for size and low light, you cannot go wrong with the 20 f1.7. I would not recommend that you get the 12 f2. That is more of a event and group shot type of lens and having to come to near to your subject, would not lead to flattering shots. The outright BEST lens for portraits currently is the 45 f1.8. However, you need space to use this lens and as such, you may not get that much mileage from it. I also shoot a lot of portraits and small group portraits. In terms of mileage the 12 f2 gets used the least, followed by 45 1.8. 20 f1.7 and 25 f1.4 are about a tie and really depends on that day whether I needed to have a compact setup or not. I have all these lenses so I hope that my experience with them can help you in your choice of lenses.

 

[dereth]

The best portrait lens is yet to be. It is the 75 mm f 1.8 or something like that. Nice big lens. Probably only on sale in Jul or August.

At this time the most parsimonious lens for portraits in my opinion is the 25 mm f1.4. Fantastic bokeh (BTW, quality of bokeh actually depends a lot on lens design), fairly good focal length and superb for low light. Its a little larger than 20 f 1.7 but I think it is significantly better. But if you want the best compromise for size and low light, you cannot go wrong with the 20 f1.7. I would not recommend that you get the 12 f2. That is more of a event and group shot type of lens and having to come to near to your subject, would not lead to flattering shots. The outright BEST lens for portraits currently is the 45 f1.8. However, you need space to use this lens and as such, you may not get that much mileage from it. I also shoot a lot of portraits and small group portraits. In terms of mileage the 12 f2 gets used the least, followed by 45 1.8. 20 f1.7 and 25 f1.4 are about a tie and really depends on that day whether I needed to have a compact setup or not. I have all these lenses so I hope that my experience with them can help you in your choice of lenses.

Good advice. And I just ordered a 25mm f1.4.

 

[Calories]

First, I want to ask you a question. Why do you want to switch to mirrorless? The 60D is a great camera, and takes awesome pictures when paired with quality lenses. Don't switch unless you have a good reason to.

Next, the NEX 7 is not going to net you much size and weight savings. The body might be smaller and lighter than a DSLR, but the sensor is not. Thus, the NEX lenses are going to be about the same size and weight as your EFS lenses. Just compare the kit 18-55 lenses for the two systems and you'll know what I mean. If you really want small and portable, you should go for micro-4/3. (Not to mention the much wider selection of quality native lenses for m4/3 compared to NEX.)

If you end up getting a mirrorless camera (especially micro-4/3) you should sell your 60D, cos one of the two cameras is going to sit in your dry cabinet and depreciate. Moreover the 60D is already 2 years old and Canon may announce 70D any time in the later part of this year. If you decide later that m4/3 is not suitable for you, you can buy back a 60D for less money or even go for the newer models.

The main reason is Size and the weight... I am travel back to my hometown frequently and I wish to bring back my camera.
2ndly, I not going to buy many many lens, just keep to simple...

Will think and read more abt all the advise....thank you for yr advise...

 

[Calories]

if you can afford keep your 60D 1st its a good cam even the model its not the latest one it still produces great photos. I am using a not so latest model also EPL2 still works for me. NEX 7 is a good mirrorless with APSC sensor and 24MP and good dynamic range also. Sadly native E-System lenses still not much it's like when m4/3 1st came they only have a handful of lenses and offers an adaptor so you can use thier 4/3 lens line up same goes as NEX they have adaptor for you to mount all A-Mount lenses from Minolta AF lenses till the current Sony line up. But to me that's not the essense of having mirrorless but I'm sure i'll mature like m4/3 that you can have enough lens choices.

To me my advice regardless of brand may be it Samsung, Ricoh, Sony, Panasonic or Olympus if you like the camera and you're ok with the cons or shortcoming of the system go for it. I'm sure any mirrorless system is more portable than your current DSLR.

Hi albertri, thank you for your valuable advise to me, I will think of it...

 

[laserzx]

Good advice. And I just ordered a 25mm f1.4.

hi, where did u ordered the 25mm? Online or local Store? Thanks

 

[dereth]

hi, where did u ordered the 25mm? Online or local Store? Thanks

Online from BH. After I ordered yesterday evening almost immediately out-of-stock again.

 

[albertri]

Good advice. And I just ordered a 25mm f1.4.

How much cheaper it is compare to local stores and does panasonic has intl warranty? Locally this sell now around 810-830.