Upgrading to 5DMKII

[qingtian]

Can't you just get something like the Tokina 11-16 for that UWA?
While I am on the 5D2 there are certain disadvantages associated with the 5D2. I am seriously looking at the 7D for its crop factor.

As mention I don't really use third parties lens as I prefer Canon build, but who know there might be a day I may consider it. In fact when I made the purchase of 17-40mm I did consider the EF-S 10-22mm but I went with the EF lens as I forsee one day I will be going FF thus I am saving myself the trouble to sell another lens.

Actually, I view it another way - they are both complementary, and neither replaces the other. Having a 7D and 5D2 in your camera bag should cover 90% of your photography needs from the camera end. Lenses are another matter.

TS - Although the high ISO of 5D2 is enticing, when taking landscapes, you generally want to take as low ISO as possible. That's why landscape photogs carry a tripod around with them. So I don't think high ISO would help in your landscape (unless you are into special effects).

I agreed on this, both cam are for different purposes as shared by Tachyon, they are both complementary, and neither replaces the other. But as I am taking up photography as a hobby, I could only choose either one, thus my vote go with 5DMKII which is the FF for it better IQ.

Yes, I had a tripod with me whenever i go for city/landscape shooting especially for nightshooting and I always used an lower ISO which is at 100. =)
Anyway coming to this pts, so far did anyone use ISO 50 for the shoot for city/landscape as I know that the lowest it can goes. Lastly I'm not really into special effect but i do find the higher ISO cleaner on 5DMKII than 7D. But that just me.

 

[qingtian]

Unless the 5D2 has 45pt AF, can shoot 10fps, record 1080p at 50/60fps, etc. :bsmilie:

Lol, this sound like a 1D series leh...

yeah, that makes the "Q button" more delicate.:sweatsm::bsmilie:

Lol, but i find it useful!

Thanks for the info, if I remember correctly... I think my 5DMII can be configured for the option too.

Hey Anson that a good info that I didn't know, I guess I will explore this once I got my item and start reading the manual to understand a bit more.

 

[Kit]

You are just trying to pull together reasons to justify buying the 5D.

If you are using a tripod and low ISO for cityscapes, then why would the high ISO performance on any camera be your concern?

 

[Anson]

Hey Anson that a good info that I didn't know, I guess I will explore this once I got my item and start reading the manual to understand a bit more.

No problem... I believe CS is a place to share product info & reviews. It's thru discussion and exchanging of ideas that make this a great site.

Personally before my purchase of the 5DMII, I did consider the 7D too. Had a few offers for both cameras. In the end, my choice is based on a few reasons. My advise if you were to consider doing more portraiture/wedding shoots, a prime with a FF would be an attractive combination for you. For landscape shots, if you are considering large print, the additional MP on the 5DMII does help.

Having said that, I always believe the equip is only as good as it's wielder. No doubt both cameras have their Pros & Cons, it's up to the Photographer to work within any limitation of the camera.

 

[CharlesPhotography78]

Saw this THREAD and realised that i'm not the only person thinking of switching from 7D to 5D mk11. Went down to the shop and was on the verge of paying and trading my 7D. After checking out all the PROS and CONS, i will still stick to my 7D for a simple reason, i like all the feature in 7D. Althought FF is a WOW when you look through the screen. my 2 cents worth... ;0)

 

[qingtian]

You are just trying to pull together reasons to justify buying the 5D.

If you are using a tripod and low ISO for cityscapes, then why would the high ISO performance on any camera be your concern?

To pull or not to pull the reasons are not the purposes of me in starting this thread or to made myself feel comfortable in my purchass. But rather seeking opinons from user who might or had upgrade from 7D to a 5DMKII or had tried both. As they would be able to gave me a headup what I will be missing from the 7D which i might missed out due to lack of hand of exp with 5DMKII.

At the end of the day, things can go on and on, debate and debate.
But irregardless 5DMKII is still a camera body having a larger cmos sensor as compare to a crop body which will contribute better in IQ and cleaner images. Of cos I am not saying images from crop is no good, just that FF is better and of cos lenses u use and the skill u have do play a part too.

Yes I do use tripod and low ISO for cityscapes but of cos there will also be time i will need the high ISO performance. For instance shooting indoors which might not permit the use of tripod or flash, like in a museum.

Being close to the age of 30 and having the problem with slip disc for the past decade also does not permit me to always bring my tripod when I'm out. Althought I been bring it out when I am in SG whenever I forsee I need it. But things will get a little different when I will be away from home eg. a long oversea trip. When this scenario come in, I would prefer to travel light with my camera with 1 lens (5DMKII + 24-105mm) instead with a fews lens and tripod. And this is time a good ISO performance will be proven to be useful when I am shooting in low lighting

 

[qingtian]

No problem... I believe CS is a place to share product info & reviews. It's thru discussion and exchanging of ideas that make this a great site.

Personally before my purchase of the 5DMII, I did consider the 7D too. Had a few offers for both cameras. In the end, my choice is based on a few reasons. My advise if you were to consider doing more portraiture/wedding shoots, a prime with a FF would be an attractive combination for you. For landscape shots, if you are considering large print, the additional MP on the 5DMII does help.

Having said that, I always believe the equip is only as good as it's wielder. No doubt both cameras have their Pros & Cons, it's up to the Photographer to work within any limitation of the camera.

Thanks for sharing your expericence, I do own one prime lens which is the 50mm f1.4
Is quite good imo and I guess it should combine well with the FF. =)

I guess I will need to go into reading more on 5DMKII manual like what I did on my previous 500D and 7D when the items come.

Saw this THREAD and realised that i'm not the only person thinking of switching from 7D to 5D mk11. Went down to the shop and was on the verge of paying and trading my 7D. After checking out all the PROS and CONS, i will still stick to my 7D for a simple reason, i like all the feature in 7D. Althought FF is a WOW when you look through the screen. my 2 cents worth... ;0)

I see, for me I guess I still lean more toward the WOW (IQ) factor, I guess I should be good with 5DMKII AF pts as I used to come from 500D that also had 9 AF pts.
And lastly can finally shoot in UWA from 17-40mm though review of 17-40mm on FF are not so good.

 

[Anson]

Thanks for sharing your expericence, I do own one prime lens which is the 50mm f1.4
Is quite good imo and I guess it should combine well with the FF. =)

I guess I will need to go into reading more on 5DMKII manual like what I did on my previous 500D and 7D when the items come.

Glad to be of service. You would find that your 50F1.4 is very useful for indoor portraiture on a FF.

Personally for me instead of reading, my motto is "Shoot More, Learn More". That is why in less than 12 hours of getting the camera, I brought it out for a comcard shoot to give it a real-life test.

 

[sinned79]

And lastly can finally shoot in UWA from 17-40mm though review of 17-40mm on FF are not so good.

not that bad lah, as least for me.

here's some sample shots (but resize to 1024 x 860):

 

[CharlesPhotography78]

qingtian, i think most importantly is yourself. If you like it then go ahead. You will be using it at the end of the thread. So go ahead and be WOW. Although i'm still harbouring the thoughts of changing. Cheers and have fun with it!!

 

[qingtian]

Glad to be of service. You would find that your 50F1.4 is very useful for indoor portraiture on a FF.

Personally for me instead of reading, my motto is "Shoot More, Learn More". That is why in less than 12 hours of getting the camera, I brought it out for a comcard shoot to give it a real-life test.

You been helpfully in sharing your experiences and informations.
I remember how much I benefit from your EF-S 18-200mm sharing threads. Keke...
I guess i will be pretty itch to use the 5DMKII with the 17-40mm for my first landscape nightshot at the CBD area since I work there.

not that bad lah, as least for me.

here's some sample shots (but resize to 1024 x 860):

Thanks for sharing, they are good.

qingtian, i think most importantly is yourself. If you like it then go ahead. You will be using it at the end of the thread. So go ahead and be WOW. Although i'm still harbouring the thoughts of changing. Cheers and have fun with it!!

Ha... I been thinking a lot to changes.... Reading all the users comments and reviews.
I guess I am fine to take the plunge...

 

[goering]

Since IQ is your primary consideration and you do wides, the 5D-2 is the camera to go for. The 7D's IQ is not a match for the 5D-2. The price difference bewteen the two has narrowed quite a bit so this makes the 5D-2 more appealing

 

[ZzzMonster]

Since the price of 5D2 has dropped and you already owned the 7. Why dun you keep your 7 and buy 5D2? Then you no need to sacrifice anything. ;p

 

[Michaelavaloke2009]

I would say get some good lens,5d2 or ff is not all the answer to IQ. just enjoy what u hv and keep on shooting, till one day $$$$ no more problem then get all u want.

 

[qingtian]

Since IQ is your primary consideration and you do wides, the 5D-2 is the camera to go for. The 7D's IQ is not a match for the 5D-2. The price difference bewteen the two has narrowed quite a bit so this makes the 5D-2 more appealing

Yup I agree on the IQ part and the price difference part.

Since the price of 5D2 has dropped and you already owned the 7. Why dun you keep your 7 and buy 5D2? Then you no need to sacrifice anything. ;p

Nah, no way I am holding on to 2 bodies, cos as mention this is more for hobby...
I do not wish to keep the 7D as I could also sell it off to fund for other lens if i wish to.

I would say get some good lens,5d2 or ff is not all the answer to IQ. just enjoy what u hv and keep on shooting, till one day $$$$ no more problem then get all u want.

I guess I had all the necessary lens for my shooting need as I currently own 17-40mm f4 for UWA, 50mm f1.4 for low light shooting. And the next upcoming with the 5DMKII including the 24-105mm f4 for my general shooting. Did consider 70-200mm lens before but don't think I will be getting that as I dun really zoom that much.

i always use iso50 for landscapes, unless i`m in a rush for time.. then i will increase iso. I used to have both 10-22 and 17-40 lens on my 500d... but i find it a hassle to bring both lens out.. so i sell 10-22 & 500d to get 5d. image quality of 10-22 and and 17-40 pretty much look the same to me. I tried tokina b4 but i find the distortion is horrible...

Apart from that... I much love the features and ergonomic of 7d over 5d. Thats why i didn`t buy the new 5dm2... i will stick with my 2nd hand 5d until canon integrate 7d features on their next new FF body...


Edit: Lastly... i buy 5d over 7d because because of better iso performance, the depth of field and to use canon 15mm fisheye lens...

IC, thanks for sharing your experience. For me I do really like the 7D AF! Is blazing fast.

 

[SkyPipe]

Recently, I went form my 30d to 5d. Was struggling between the 7d and the 2nd hand 5d. In the end listeren to my heart and bought a FF. For the first few days. was comparing both cameras. Everything setting being the same and using the same lens, 5d IQ beats 30d hands down. No doubt. Didn't notice much about the AF speed. However, whenever I do picture review and enlarge on both cams, I find 5d pics not as sharp as 30d (maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me). Printing out the pics looks pefectly ok and of course the pics taken by 5d is much more impressive, even in full auto mode...

Sold off my 30d, not long after....

 

[qingtian]

Recently, I went form my 30d to 5d. Was struggling between the 7d and the 2nd hand 5d. In the end listeren to my heart and bought a FF. For the first few days. was comparing both cameras. Everything setting being the same and using the same lens, 5d IQ beats 30d hands down. No doubt. Didn't notice much about the AF speed. However, whenever I do picture review and enlarge on both cams, I find 5d pics not as sharp as 30d (maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me). Printing out the pics looks pefectly ok and of course the pics taken by 5d is much more impressive, even in full auto mode...

Sold off my 30d, not long after....

Thanks for sharing your experience. I do heard a lot of not so good feedback in AF on 5DMKII.
But I guess I should be fine with it as I come from 500D and of cos is not fair for me to compare it with a 7D since it is a different beast mainly due to it sensor size and different purposes.

 

[Radiant]

Just want to share a review comparing 7d and 5D Mk II.

http://rolandlim.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/canon-eos-7d-review/

The image quality on the 5D Mk II is mind blowing. Even Nikon D300 cannot compare.
Probably for those undecided between 7D & 5D MkII should read it.

After reading the review, I went ahead and got the 5D Mk II instead of 7D.
And yes, I have played with my friend's 7D before deciding.

 

[Anson]

Just want to share a review comparing 7d and 5D Mk II.

http://rolandlim.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/canon-eos-7d-review/

The image quality on the 5D Mk II is mind blowing. Even Nikon D300 cannot compare.
Probably for those undecided between 7D & 5D MkII should read it.

After reading the review, I went ahead and got the 5D Mk II instead of 7D.
And yes, I have played with my friend's 7D before deciding.

Thanks for the share, maybe the main reason why I bought a 5DMII instead of 7D (which I have tested it's functionally for a period) is that I like to keep my camera simple and easy to use.

 

[Dream Merchant]

And lastly can finally shoot in UWA from 17-40mm though review of 17-40mm on FF are not so good.

Not sure what the reviews say, but I've had excellent results from a 1740 on a 5D2 when used properly.