Upgrade 5D to A100? Yes or No?
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dr34mc4st3r
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AncientMariner
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When I acquired my 5D, my plan was to use that as my "learning wheels" and then get a new version 7D when the time is ripe. In the course of learning, I felt I badly wanted a long telephoto and saved like hell to acquire a KM 600f4.
Now I am ready, I am extremely disappointed that the new lens line-up did not include this or anything over 300mm except for a mirror lens. Sony's reluctance to release more information is disconcerting. I can only guess and I feel that the direction Sony is taking is opposite to my needs.
Right now I am seriously considering just getting either a D2X, with its 2X factor in high-speed crop mode, + 400mmf2.8 or D200 + 600f4 just for long shots or go with the dark side all the way. I cannot be sure how alternative existing 3rd party lenses will work on the A100.
The only thing keeping me for putting all my Minolta and KM gear on B&S right away is the fact I have gotten attached to my 5D with my 2 favourite *Tamron* lenses plus the A100's features pertaining to dynamic range adjustments and the 135f1.8 AFlens.
If Nikon gets a new customer, it will be thanks to Sony's reluctance to provide clear directional information before my patience runs out.
Now I am ready, I am extremely disappointed that the new lens line-up did not include this or anything over 300mm except for a mirror lens. Sony's reluctance to release more information is disconcerting. I can only guess and I feel that the direction Sony is taking is opposite to my needs.
Right now I am seriously considering just getting either a D2X, with its 2X factor in high-speed crop mode, + 400mmf2.8 or D200 + 600f4 just for long shots or go with the dark side all the way. I cannot be sure how alternative existing 3rd party lenses will work on the A100.
The only thing keeping me for putting all my Minolta and KM gear on B&S right away is the fact I have gotten attached to my 5D with my 2 favourite *Tamron* lenses plus the A100's features pertaining to dynamic range adjustments and the 135f1.8 AFlens.
If Nikon gets a new customer, it will be thanks to Sony's reluctance to provide clear directional information before my patience runs out.
AncientMariner... I think u can afford to wait till the end of the year... give them a chance... they are only at launch and heck... it's still pre-production...
I think this poll is a little premature... no offence to poll starter... we haven't even had field reports about the camera and how it compares... everyone has an idea of how Minolta cameras are like especially Minoltians themselves... so when the alpha 100 is really sold on shelves like next month... we will get a comprehensive evaluation of the new DSLR and if Sony has sold out KM's photographic ideals that we all so cherish... that would be a good time to decide if we should upgrade, stay put or jump ship...
I think this poll is a little premature... no offence to poll starter... we haven't even had field reports about the camera and how it compares... everyone has an idea of how Minolta cameras are like especially Minoltians themselves... so when the alpha 100 is really sold on shelves like next month... we will get a comprehensive evaluation of the new DSLR and if Sony has sold out KM's photographic ideals that we all so cherish... that would be a good time to decide if we should upgrade, stay put or jump ship...
AncientMariner
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zcf said:
Thanks for the suggestion but 2H would be without manufacturer's warranty and I would be loathed to go that way for something that is going to cost over $10K.
TME said:
You are right. That's why I voted "undecided at this time" and not "jump ship".
However, life is short and time is a luxury, so my patience runs very thin.
Moreover, I depend more on reading specifications which we can hold the manufacturer to and deciding myself than on reviewers' evaluations which could be tampered by their own preferences without any obligation on the part of the manufacturer. So far the A100 and the lenses except for a couple is not what I need. Unless they reveal plans for what would be next in terms of lens and cameras, which to date they have shown a reluctance to do, I don't think I am going to wait beyond Photokina i.e. Sept. I would prefer to go out and shoot the pics I want than to waste time and miss opportunities whilst waiting.
After all, Sony will not reject my purchase if and when they do come up with what I need and I decide to return.
Seriously... for those who really need new camera for whatever reason shouldn't wait...
7D is what I need, hence no, I am not buying A100... Even though there are alot of improvement (I think so anyway), but it won't really change the way you take pictures...
But of course, people buying things for different reason...
friend of mind just bought 1Ds Mk II, because he feels stress at work and need to spend $$$... well, works for him...
Many of us, include myself, can't really afford to keep buying new stuff because my wallet is as thin as paper liao...
As always, I think it is important to buy what you "need".
To be honest 10MP and 6MP the different is the number, but quality of the work from each photographer will remain pretty much about the same... improving photography skills are independent of the camera...
Of course with appropriate gear makes life much easier... but hey.. having $$$ in my pocket make my life even easier... hehehe... Sony is going to hate me...
If you want the A100 and have the money... then why not!! feels good to buy new things anyway...
That's my point of view... please don't take offend.. just sharing my thought...
Hart
7D is what I need, hence no, I am not buying A100... Even though there are alot of improvement (I think so anyway), but it won't really change the way you take pictures...
But of course, people buying things for different reason...
friend of mind just bought 1Ds Mk II, because he feels stress at work and need to spend $$$... well, works for him...
Many of us, include myself, can't really afford to keep buying new stuff because my wallet is as thin as paper liao...
As always, I think it is important to buy what you "need".
To be honest 10MP and 6MP the different is the number, but quality of the work from each photographer will remain pretty much about the same... improving photography skills are independent of the camera...
Of course with appropriate gear makes life much easier... but hey.. having $$$ in my pocket make my life even easier... hehehe... Sony is going to hate me...
If you want the A100 and have the money... then why not!! feels good to buy new things anyway...
That's my point of view... please don't take offend.. just sharing my thought...
Hart
Seem like we are not going to see the 7D replacement by Sony soon, at least not by this year according to this interview with Samuel Andreo, director of photographic products for Sony Spain.
For those who had been waiting seem to be bad news, for those who hold on to 5D or 7D, or saving money for upgrade, seem to be good news."In 3 or 4 years we will be able to tackle Nikon, who now is maybe the most affected by our arrival"To fight for Olympus' third place in the next 18 to 24 months and to take Nikon's second place in 3 or 4 years time. These are the plans for the reflex sector that were revealed to QUESABESDE.COM by Samuel Andreo, director of photographic products for Sony Spain, during the presentation of the Alpha DSLR-A100 in Barcelona. Although Andreo doesn't rule out future novelties like the on-screen preview or the full-frame sensor, the one certainty is that the A100 will be the only SLR from Sony this year. The next one, aimed at the professional, will arrive in 2007.
I think it is very smart move, as they can't introduce 2 DSLR at the same time.... need at least 6-8 months before the next one. 7D and 5D, they are about 1 year apart isn't it?
I am expecting first quarter of 2007 and we will see 7D replacement.. Just a nice time...
Regards,
Hart
I am expecting first quarter of 2007 and we will see 7D replacement.. Just a nice time...
Regards,
Hart
I think may be they can't cope with their projected Alpha 100 sales given last time Minolta DSLR sales was a lot. :sweat:
With the later delivery date, hope they can get more improvement on the replacement Pro model
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Given faster product cycle time mean our DSLR depreciate faster, it may be a bressing in disguise
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While I will have to make use my 5D for a longer time and save money (provided I can resist the BBB virus for α 100 :sweat: )
With the later delivery date, hope they can get more improvement on the replacement Pro model
.Given faster product cycle time mean our DSLR depreciate faster, it may be a bressing in disguise
.While I will have to make use my 5D for a longer time and save money (provided I can resist the BBB virus for α 100 :sweat: )
I have to agree with you, that's my thinking too.Agetan said:
Improving skills are independant of camera, no point upgrading to any better camera if the skills are not improving.
Same like buying lens, I see lots of lens collectors in CS. But how many of them can take really good photos with it...
No offence.
KM true is gone...
However, I am pretty darn sure that in 20 years time (u may hold me to this), if Sony DSLR do really well in the market both in Amature and professional arena...
Minolta Lenses will continue its legacy... and when people saw good minolta lenses, it is like saw something like precious stone. It will establish itself as "lens to die for" because they are not in production anymore. (Just look at the old 70-210 f4). I don't think it will drop in price until Sony release the same lens with SSM on it.
To be honest, Minolta has one of the best glass in the market considering they are the smallest company when comparing to Nikon to Canon. Hence there is something to admire with...
Sony making DSLR is a smart move, because they have huge advertising budget that can push the stuff into market much better than Minolta.
How many times that many of us who uses the minolta system feels that there are a lot to offer, but those who look at the camera don't know anything about it...
My feeling is that Minolta often under sell their stuff, hence lower price... (I love that)... but on the other hand Sony really good in terms of marketing.. but luckilly for us, that there are so much competition out there in the market, Sony can't just put nail in their coffin by selling much higher than Nikon or Canon's version.
We may or may not see the full frame DSLR from SONY, but that really doesn't matter as we all already get use the the crop factor...
All I can say is I am happy to choose Minolta system from start... never regret it..
Regards,
Hart
However, I am pretty darn sure that in 20 years time (u may hold me to this), if Sony DSLR do really well in the market both in Amature and professional arena...
Minolta Lenses will continue its legacy... and when people saw good minolta lenses, it is like saw something like precious stone. It will establish itself as "lens to die for" because they are not in production anymore. (Just look at the old 70-210 f4). I don't think it will drop in price until Sony release the same lens with SSM on it.
To be honest, Minolta has one of the best glass in the market considering they are the smallest company when comparing to Nikon to Canon. Hence there is something to admire with...
Sony making DSLR is a smart move, because they have huge advertising budget that can push the stuff into market much better than Minolta.
How many times that many of us who uses the minolta system feels that there are a lot to offer, but those who look at the camera don't know anything about it...
My feeling is that Minolta often under sell their stuff, hence lower price... (I love that)... but on the other hand Sony really good in terms of marketing.. but luckilly for us, that there are so much competition out there in the market, Sony can't just put nail in their coffin by selling much higher than Nikon or Canon's version.
We may or may not see the full frame DSLR from SONY, but that really doesn't matter as we all already get use the the crop factor...
All I can say is I am happy to choose Minolta system from start... never regret it..
Regards,
Hart
whether u are a good photographer or not, still it's always better to own better lenses and camera. When your skills improve your equipment will show. Of course a pro can shoot with normal lens and obtain good picture, but what happen if were to be given a very very good lens? Better lens and camera will always be better irregardless of your skill.
synapseman
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At first, it was see how first.
Now, it's buy first, then see how.
Initially I put myself down as un-decided. But now, I think I'm gonna get the A100 as soon as possible. Whenever I go out on shoots, I used to use my film gear as back-up. I've given up on film, and sold off my film SLR. No more back-up. So now I need another DSLR body
Eh, so when will they hit our stores, eh?
Now, it's buy first, then see how.
Initially I put myself down as un-decided. But now, I think I'm gonna get the A100 as soon as possible. Whenever I go out on shoots, I used to use my film gear as back-up. I've given up on film, and sold off my film SLR. No more back-up. So now I need another DSLR body
Eh, so when will they hit our stores, eh?
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