Update full frame body or 24-70mm Lens...
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bethpapa74
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agree... at iso1600 the IQ for my d700 is still good.
I though the price for d700 already reduced significantly?
FrozenRiver
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If you have limited budget, upgrade your glass first... Check out youtube. There is a comparison between two setups: on the one hand, you have a pro body but a 3rd party lens; while on the other, you have a amateur/prosumer body, but a high quality glass. The later won hands down.
So think about which glass you will need on a pro body, and go for that glass first. In your case, I think you've fixed your eyes on 24-70mm. So.
So think about which glass you will need on a pro body, and go for that glass first. In your case, I think you've fixed your eyes on 24-70mm. So.
used to be true but I don't think the D700 is as good compared to the latest DX cameras like D5100 and D7000
Have you tried it before? ISO beyond 3200 on a D7k did not impress me at all. At 1600, it's only a tad better than the previous gen sensor (in D90 & D300(s)). The good thing on D7k is the megapixel though, the extra megapixel gives more room for cropping.
Irvine
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wad u tink isnt true. d700 still performs better than the current generation of sensors found in d7000 and d5100.
Sensor comparison between d700 and d7000
kkvolution
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yea, I read on some sites on the comparision between a D7K and D700, D700 noise control still better than the D7k when shot on the same ISO.
More tests between the 2 DSLR can be seen here.
http://www.dustylens.com/d7000_vs_d300_vs_d700.htm
shottobefun
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kkvolution said:
Different people with differ judgement and view. I found that d7k better than d700 n canon 7d when up to ISO 6400 or higher. There's no best photo in this world while depend on urself likely. I like A photo, but you may not like it. B photo u may like it so much but I don't. Just like a girl that u love most o lesss....
shottobefun said:
To each his own. Personally, I see d700 iso performance is around 0.5 to 1 stop better than the d7000 depending on the iso tested.
Fx also gives you other advantages like thinner dof when using the same lenses. And very good with legacy MF lenses. And the viewfinder is very very much bigger than a dx cam.
And when doing PP, you can recover more cleaner as well.
sf_kang
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TS seems like he's made up his mind to go FX. So no need to discuss the pros n cons of FX vs DX. His question is whether he should buy the FX body first, then the lenses, or the other way round.
I'd go for the FX body first, since the D700 can use both FX and DX lenses, AF-D as well as AF-S lenses. Start learning and exploring the benefits of the improve IQ produced by FX sensors. Start taking advantage of the high ISO performance of the D700.
Coming to lenses, there will be time to 'sell some' 'buy some', and eventually owning a set of FX lenses that meets your shooting preferences.
Just for info and sharing, I have a D700, and the 'trinity' lenses, AF-S 14-24/2.8, 24-70/2.8, 70-200/2.8 VRII, and I don't really need to think about getting anything else.
I have some primes for those days I want to shoot more deliberately (Ziess ZF 25/f2.8, 50/f2, 100/f2) - all manual focus.
The D700 can accommodate just about any lens with the F-mount.
Hope this helps.
Fred
I'd go for the FX body first, since the D700 can use both FX and DX lenses, AF-D as well as AF-S lenses. Start learning and exploring the benefits of the improve IQ produced by FX sensors. Start taking advantage of the high ISO performance of the D700.
Coming to lenses, there will be time to 'sell some' 'buy some', and eventually owning a set of FX lenses that meets your shooting preferences.
Just for info and sharing, I have a D700, and the 'trinity' lenses, AF-S 14-24/2.8, 24-70/2.8, 70-200/2.8 VRII, and I don't really need to think about getting anything else.
I have some primes for those days I want to shoot more deliberately (Ziess ZF 25/f2.8, 50/f2, 100/f2) - all manual focus.
The D700 can accommodate just about any lens with the F-mount.
Hope this helps.
Fred
kkvolution
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cichlid
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Even in future when a new DX cam overtakes the D700 in high ISO performance, there is no beating the FF sensor on giving a shallower DOF making the subject more "pop".
If anyone likes this shallower DOF, upgrading to a FF body would enable one to enjoy immediately the shallower DOF even if it meant having lesser funds for lenses. A humble 50 or 85mm f1.8 lens would perform nicely enough on a 12MP FF cam (at least its enough for me
).
If anyone likes this shallower DOF, upgrading to a FF body would enable one to enjoy immediately the shallower DOF even if it meant having lesser funds for lenses. A humble 50 or 85mm f1.8 lens would perform nicely enough on a 12MP FF cam (at least its enough for me
).
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bethpapa74
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cichlid said:Even in future when a new DX cam overtakes the D700 in high ISO performance, there is no beating the FF sensor on giving a shallower DOF making the subject more "pop".
If anyone likes this shallower DOF, upgrading to a FF body would enable one to enjoy immediately the shallower DOF even if it meant having lesser funds for lenses. A humble 50 or 85mm f1.8 lens would perform nicely enough on a 12MP FF cam (at least it’s enough for me
I cannot agree more... Bokeh on a fx sensor can be very amazing sometime
I do not seems to find much existing thread on people comparing D700 vs D3s..
sorry to hijack TS thread but I do also itch for FX yet hesitate for a lens first.
comparing the factors:
D3s cost twice of D700
D3s sensor is totally differ from D3 which D700 sensor is from D3 (makes D3s future proof longer in next 5 yrs and more)
D3s ISO capabilities is more superior which ya, D700 3200 is adequate but D3s makes the IQ smoother
D3s overall body weight distribution is lighter than D700 if I bundle in a battery grip on D700 (tried this personally at NSC)
D3s do not have built in commander as there's no built in flash
D3s has 100% viewfinder coverage
Yes I know D3s is a WoW, but i like the egonomic feel of D3s more.
so cost is the major factor? what do FF user feel in this sense.. i know eventually everyone will bodder about 1 question; is D3s really necessary for a general hobbist?
of cos, its not that I have $$$ to spare but the thought of it just Itch..
sorry to hijack TS thread but I do also itch for FX yet hesitate for a lens first.
comparing the factors:
D3s cost twice of D700
D3s sensor is totally differ from D3 which D700 sensor is from D3 (makes D3s future proof longer in next 5 yrs and more)
D3s ISO capabilities is more superior which ya, D700 3200 is adequate but D3s makes the IQ smoother
D3s overall body weight distribution is lighter than D700 if I bundle in a battery grip on D700 (tried this personally at NSC)
D3s do not have built in commander as there's no built in flash
D3s has 100% viewfinder coverage
Yes I know D3s is a WoW, but i like the egonomic feel of D3s more.
so cost is the major factor? what do FF user feel in this sense.. i know eventually everyone will bodder about 1 question; is D3s really necessary for a general hobbist?
of cos, its not that I have $$$ to spare but the thought of it just Itch..
bethpapa74
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Dear ts,
I think you should take the plunge and buy d3s.. you will keep thinking of it even you convince yourself to buy d700, let alone a dx body.
Second hand d3s cost about 5500, can consider la
But do spare some money for good lenses... Like 14-24, 24-70, etc etc
I think you should take the plunge and buy d3s.. you will keep thinking of it even you convince yourself to buy d700, let alone a dx body.
Second hand d3s cost about 5500, can consider la
But do spare some money for good lenses... Like 14-24, 24-70, etc etc
bethpapa74 said:
actually by bringing d3s into e thread is nt abt asking ts to burn his pocket. not everyone can just fork out tt amt.
my motive actually points out tt now to everyone, fx main stream is d700. like myself, just find reluctant to get d700 due to e fact Nikon next body b out be late o early 2012. even if d800 comes, is ts willing to buy e new body o just wait for d700 to drop more.
d3s just totally diff class. i can't burn myself for so call D4. so d700 vs d3s continue..
going to lens. maybe a 24-70 is what ts think to get as its e most versatile fx lens. but in dx crop range. this lens do not cover wide shot. i m pointing out my concern too personally.
If you are looking for comparison of IQ between D3s and D700, you can just look at comparisons of D3s vs D3. D3's IQ is identical to D700.
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